Anonymous
10/20/2024 09:30
Subject: Re:Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:No. We do flu shots but haven't done covid shots (for any of us) since the initial 2 shot series and then one subsequent booster. We have all gotten covid twice since then and it has been extremely mild.
The real reason, for me, that I am not excited about the covid vaccine is that covid isn't seasonal. So, with the flu shot, it only gives about 5 months of protection, but if you take it in October or November it protects you through flu season. Covid is prevalent year round and so it doesn't make sense to me to have guidance to take it with the flu shot. And getting a vaccine every 4 month (that's about the max efficacy of the covid vaccine) seems insane when the actual virus has been very mild for our family multiple times.
If they had clear guidance that made sense, I'd be more willing. But as it stands, I don't think there's a consensus within the medical community for how the vaccine should be administered, who should take it, and how frequently.
FWIW, I am a super liberal who has never voted for anyone but the bluest candidate in all elections and will continue to do so.
my thinking as well. it’s crazy they haven’t done better research on this. the focus should be on boosters for people who are at risk like the elderly. I also personally would get it for an infant because under 1 yr olds are higher risk.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 09:24
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I promise I'm not a paranoid still wearing masks, but can the folks saying no say why? At this point, why isn't it any different from getting the flu shot?
We all got three covid shots in our family (my teen boys are 17 and 18 now). No more covid shots for us for a few small reasons that add up to a totally unnecessary shot in our opinion --
1. We all caught covid (some of us have had it twice) in the 3 years since being vaccinated in 2021, and it was always just a very mild cold (sore throat, fever, slight cough for a day or two)
2. The covid shots made us feel blah and feverish for a day or two
3. No doctors (at our family practice, at the college health center, at the ER after a broken bone, at the ortho) are asking us if we have had a covid booster. They only ask if we have had our flu shot (which we all have).
So we always get a flu shot (and have for the past 20 years) in September. But we do not see any reason to get a covid shot. It is no longer a novel virus. Our bodies fight this coronavirus very easily, and getting a shot does not prevent us from spreading it to others.
So I hope that helps you understand our reasoning!
+1
This is pretty much our experience/plan as well. Yearly flu shots, but no covid shots beyond the initial 3.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 09:21
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.
What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?
How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.
The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.
Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.
Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.
Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)
I used to live in Portland and there were huge amounts of parents who wouldn’t get their kids any vaccinations. And they certainly weren’t right-wingers.
Yes, anti-vax ideology can be found on both the Left and the Right. The point, however, is that declining Covid boosters for your kids while giving them all traditional childhood vaccines, is not "anti-vax". Unless you also want to call someone like Paul Offit (who didn't even think an updated booster was necessary for himself at age 73 and thinks only the "very elderly" need it), along with the public health establishments of every developed country around the world, "anti-vax", as some people here are apparently eager to do.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 09:12
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No boosters. Original shot, yes.
Pediatrician doesn’t think it’s necessary for teen boys.
What? That is utter nonsense. Why would you even believe this?
Ugh because they trust their doctor? My doc doesn’t recommend it for my kids either, boys and girl. They’ve been vaxxed and have had Covid already.
That’s very sad, but I believe you. I’ve worked with doctors who think they are specialists in everything, and make crazy recommendations like this without checking the data. Some doctors simply don’t deserve our trust.
Are you seriously saying that a doctor not recommending the Covid boosters for kids is "crazy"? And what data have they not checked? There is NO data that supports annual Covid boosters for kids. NONE.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 08:59
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.
What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?
How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.
The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.
Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.
Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.
Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)
I used to live in Portland and there were huge amounts of parents who wouldn’t get their kids any vaccinations. And they certainly weren’t right-wingers.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 08:04
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
No. Our pediatrician does not require it and does not even ask about it. The only question the nurse asks is if they have ever had one. They get a flu shot every year and are up to date on their other immunizations.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 08:01
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Absolutely
Anonymous
10/20/2024 07:39
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
No- no real reason to vax younger kids. We do get flu shots.
DD was one of those who had significant differences in her period post shots. So we evaluated potential risk vs harms and decides against it.
We do get flu and all other shots.
DD was one of those who had significant differences in her period post shots. So we evaluated potential risk vs harms and decides against it.
We do get flu and all other shots.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 07:18
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Based on the logic presented here, Paul Offit, inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, is now an antivaxxer. Amazing.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 06:29
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
We did. Got it together with flu.
Anonymous
10/20/2024 06:22
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No boosters. Original shot, yes.
Pediatrician doesn’t think it’s necessary for teen boys.
What? That is utter nonsense. Why would you even believe this?
Ugh because they trust their doctor? My doc doesn’t recommend it for my kids either, boys and girl. They’ve been vaxxed and have had Covid already.
That’s very sad, but I believe you. I’ve worked with doctors who think they are specialists in everything, and make crazy recommendations like this without checking the data. Some doctors simply don’t deserve our trust.
lol here goes the “trust the science” crowd again. When (many) pediatricians disagree, now they “don’t deserve our trust.”
Give it a rest.
The risks and benefits for children is not the same as for adults when it comes to Covid especially when they have already been vaccinated and or had the virus. Covid isn’t the flu for kids and never was.
Anonymous
10/19/2024 19:02
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Ah social media, the new yellow journalism
Nothing new under the sun
Anonymous
10/19/2024 17:05
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No boosters. Original shot, yes.
Pediatrician doesn’t think it’s necessary for teen boys.
What? That is utter nonsense. Why would you even believe this?
Ugh because they trust their doctor? My doc doesn’t recommend it for my kids either, boys and girl. They’ve been vaxxed and have had Covid already.
That’s very sad, but I believe you. I’ve worked with doctors who think they are specialists in everything, and make crazy recommendations like this without checking the data. Some doctors simply don’t deserve our trust.
Anonymous
10/19/2024 16:29
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Anonymous
10/19/2024 16:26
Subject: Did you get you teen a covid shot?
Yes.