Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 03:14     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Hearing disturbing things about overcrowding in dorms/not enough housing at UCLA (3 freshman in a double etc)

Hearing about scheduling/class issues at Michigan, with kids not getting into required 1st year classes for majors etc.

What other schools have these types of issues? What’s the best way to find out?





Not sure UCLA and Michigan are truly top tier...


True. Very true.


Have they ever been top tier? Large public schools have always seemed like glorified community colleges to me. The reports in this thread solidify doubts I’ve had for a long time. Would never allow my children to consider those schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 02:02     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hearing disturbing things about overcrowding in dorms/not enough housing at UCLA (3 freshman in a double etc)

Hearing about scheduling/class issues at Michigan, with kids not getting into required 1st year classes for majors etc.

What other schools have these types of issues? What’s the best way to find out?





Not sure UCLA and Michigan are truly top tier...


True. Very true.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 01:58     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

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Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.




Berkeley Computer Science 61 A and 61B has well over a 1000 students enrolled. Not sure what you mean by “virtual classes” but I would avoid schools that teach in that method. We all know its a poor substitute for in person teaching after Covid remote learning. Econ 1 and Poly Sci 179 also have more than 500 students.



You know exactly what is meant by virtual classes and even in 2024, most universities still have some of their sections online. Also, where is your link/citation?


DP disregard this request. No citation needed. I believe the previous poster. It’s specific enough that it has to be true.
Booster, Why don’t you provide citation that refutes the fact?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 01:55     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Berkeley? Who cares?


See topic of this thread.
Cal is overcrowded and overenrolled.
Hence……….
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 01:53     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.


You have fingers, and perhaps half a brain, go search Reddit. The fact that there are subreddits on the overcrowding topic at cal and ucla alone says something.


You cannot be serious. “Reddit” is your answer when someone asks for a citation?


Absolutely. I typed “ucla enrollment reddit” in google. And the first subreddit was a post entitled F*cK UCLA Enrollment. And the posts go on and on. You should check it out, bruin. See what the kids really think of your ‘it’s not a problem’ school
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 01:53     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Why are we talking about Berkeley? Who cares?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 01:50     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.




Berkeley Computer Science 61 A and 61B has well over a 1000 students enrolled. Not sure what you mean by “virtual classes” but I would avoid schools that teach in that method. We all know its a poor substitute for in person teaching after Covid remote learning. Econ 1 and Poly Sci 179 also have more than 500 students.



You know exactly what is meant by virtual classes and even in 2024, most universities still have some of their sections online. Also, where is your link/citation?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 01:46     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.


You have fingers, and perhaps half a brain, go search Reddit. The fact that there are subreddits on the overcrowding topic at cal and ucla alone says something.


You cannot be serious. “Reddit” is your answer when someone asks for a citation?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:48     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

The Brillance of Berkeley Class at Berkeley only has room for 744 in person students alas. https://news.berkeley.edu/2024/01/18/new-brilliance-of-berkeley-course-introduces-undergrads-to-28-luminaries-in-one-semester/
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:41     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.




Berkeley Computer Science 61 A and 61B has well over a 1000 students enrolled. Not sure what you mean by “virtual classes” but I would avoid schools that teach in that method. We all know its a poor substitute for in person teaching after Covid remote learning. Econ 1 and Poly Sci 179 also have more than 500 students.




And to follow up, Computer Science 61A has had enrollment as high as 2000 students (believe they use overflow rooms), and there are four other classes at Berkeley with enrollment over 1000. http://dailycal.local/2019/09/10/cs-61a-course-enrollment-reaches-an-all-time-high-at-2000-students/

Maybe google next time before accusing others of lying.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:34     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.




Berkeley Computer Science 61 A and 61B has well over a 1000 students enrolled. Not sure what you mean by “virtual classes” but I would avoid schools that teach in that method. We all know its a poor substitute for in person teaching after Covid remote learning. Econ 1 and Poly Sci 179 also have more than 500 students.

Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:33     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.


You have fingers, and perhaps half a brain, go search Reddit. The fact that there are subreddits on the overcrowding topic at cal and ucla alone says something.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:30     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is a public school problem.


Well, to be more accurate: this is sometimes a problem at schools which are very much in demand.


Nope. It’s a problem at schools big and small, mostly big, that are under resourced and underfunded.


So, Brown? Wesleyan? CM? All of the other privates mentioned here which have crammed freshmen into triples and hotels? Interesting. Didn't realize they were under resourced and underfunded.


Yes! And!
You probably also don’t know that they never have 500 kids in one class.


Can't think of many publics that have 500 kids in one class either. The misinformation being thrown around on this thread is really quite something.


Re read the last 6 pages. You will learn something


I've read the entire thread and learned that apparently, we can say anything we want about any school and it could be a complete lie. And I've also learned that some very gullible posters will believe what the liars say, even with zero substantiation.



Where’s the lie? Be specific.


If you can't back up an outlandish claim like "1000 student classes," then it's a lie. Private school boosters often like to make idiotic claims about public schools that they think no one will call them on. Happens all the time on this forum.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:26     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a public school problem.


Well, to be more accurate: this is sometimes a problem at schools which are very much in demand.


Nope. It’s a problem at schools big and small, mostly big, that are under resourced and underfunded.


So, Brown? Wesleyan? CM? All of the other privates mentioned here which have crammed freshmen into triples and hotels? Interesting. Didn't realize they were under resourced and underfunded.


Yes! And!
You probably also don’t know that they never have 500 kids in one class.


Can't think of many publics that have 500 kids in one class either. The misinformation being thrown around on this thread is really quite something.


Re read the last 6 pages. You will learn something


I've read the entire thread and learned that apparently, we can say anything we want about any school and it could be a complete lie. And I've also learned that some very gullible posters will believe what the liars say, even with zero substantiation.



Where’s the lie? Be specific.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2024 00:25     Subject: Overcrowding/Overenrollment Issues at top tier schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, I don’t see anyone denying that impacted majors exist, that housing is a big issue at nearly all of the UC’s (apart from UCLA’s triples), that there are in fact some classes with more than 1000 kids enrolled, etc. . . We are just being told it doesn’t matter, which of course is personal opinion. To me, it matters.


DP. I have no connection with UCLA or any school in CA. However, I find it laughable that you keep insisting there are some classes with "more than 1000 kids enrolled." Please provide a citation. And virtual classes do not count. Show us one school that has a lecture hall of 1000 or more students.


I don’t know for sure but if I were running an underfunded under resourced school, I might open registration to hundreds more kids than the physical spaces on campus allow, and then just leave it up to the kids to make it a free for all get to class 35 minutes early to get a seat or be SOL. Because I would really GAF about the individual students as I succumb to the pressures of trying to handle the masses.

Just my guess.

Or, are those student stories fiction?


I'm still waiting for the citations showing which universities have "1000 students in a class." Because we all know that's a complete lie.