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Anonymous wrote:My kid's existence is not an "insult" to kids with higher support needs. My kid exists, her diagnosis and support needs are real. Thankfully she can can currently be supported through supports outside of school (that wasn't the case 2 years ago, it was really rough going during the pandemic, thanks for asking, and the public school services did not help at all which is why we went private). Support needs change through the lifespan. Denying the diagnoses of kids you've never met because they do well in the classroom specifically is low and trashy.

Your kid’s existence isn’t an insult. You pretending that she has a neurodevelopmental disability is.

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

If you’re going from private to private there is no iep. There is no record. You keep being told this

look, if your kid is going from private to private with no record of support needs why are we even talking about this? you can’t have it both ways. either your kid has a real disability or they don’t. but you’re just reinforcing what’s apparent to everyone: when you want your kid to have a diagnosis they do; when you don’t, they don’t.

What? An iep is not what makes someone have a disability. A diagnosis is. No one wants their kid to have a disability.
The point of the post is that the diagnostic criteria is now extremely wide to the point where not only is the stereotype of neurodiversity being a barrier to entry for mainstream privates, mainstream privates are now the ones seeing neurodiversity everywhere. There is even a club at my kids private. Good for them too

An IEP is what demonstrates that your kid has needs that require supports and modifications in the classroom. Yes, the whole point of this conversation is that the supposed “neurodiverse” kids at these supposedly “competitive” privates don’t actually have any sort of meaningful claim to being disabled. And that’s frankly insulting to those of us with very smart kids who are shut out of many educational opportunities.

I frankly do not want to hear about the “neurodiversity” of your Larla who you’ve been stuffing with Ritalin since 9, gets great grades, has tons of friends, and is applying to T20s. And you know why? Because in fact you’d be the first to ostracize my kid who doesn’t have the picturesque version of “neurodiversity” that apparently poses minimal challenges.

You’re not describing my child.
Many kids who are on the spectrum are able to keep up academically but are very socially awkward. These kids might have supports but there is no reason they can’t thrive in a competitive school where they might find other kids who are very smart but awkward. Other kids with adhd might have gone through years with a school where they knew something was wrong and work with the family as they get them on the right meds. And then again once the kid grows and meds need to be adjusted. Again with the right meds, can be just as successful at school. Privates actually flag more kids for diagnoses early probably so they can optimize the kid’s potential. What you’re asking is if even with supports, a kid is lagging behind academically or is behaviorally problematic can get into a top tier private? No - in the same way that any nt would also not get in.

and those “socially awkward” kids on the spectrum are not getting admitted to top private HS and MS, even with good grades. The ones with severe ADHD and the bad grades to show it are not either. They just are not.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's existence is not an "insult" to kids with higher support needs. My kid exists, her diagnosis and support needs are real. Thankfully she can can currently be supported through supports outside of school (that wasn't the case 2 years ago, it was really rough going during the pandemic, thanks for asking, and the public school services did not help at all which is why we went private). Support needs change through the lifespan. Denying the diagnoses of kids you've never met because they do well in the classroom specifically is low and trashy.

Your kid’s existence isn’t an insult. You pretending that she has a neurodevelopmental disability is.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's existence is not an "insult" to kids with higher support needs. My kid exists, her diagnosis and support needs are real. Thankfully she can can currently be supported through supports outside of school (that wasn't the case 2 years ago, it was really rough going during the pandemic, thanks for asking, and the public school services did not help at all which is why we went private). Support needs change through the lifespan. Denying the diagnoses of kids you've never met because they do well in the classroom specifically is low and trashy.

Your kid’s existence isn’t an insult. You pretending that she has a neurodevelopmental disability is.

Anonymous wrote:My kid's existence is not an "insult" to kids with higher support needs. My kid exists, her diagnosis and support needs are real. Thankfully she can can currently be supported through supports outside of school (that wasn't the case 2 years ago, it was really rough going during the pandemic, thanks for asking, and the public school services did not help at all which is why we went private). Support needs change through the lifespan. Denying the diagnoses of kids you've never met because they do well in the classroom specifically is low and trashy.

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

If you’re going from private to private there is no iep. There is no record. You keep being told this

look, if your kid is going from private to private with no record of support needs why are we even talking about this? you can’t have it both ways. either your kid has a real disability or they don’t. but you’re just reinforcing what’s apparent to everyone: when you want your kid to have a diagnosis they do; when you don’t, they don’t.

What? An iep is not what makes someone have a disability. A diagnosis is. No one wants their kid to have a disability.
The point of the post is that the diagnostic criteria is now extremely wide to the point where not only is the stereotype of neurodiversity being a barrier to entry for mainstream privates, mainstream privates are now the ones seeing neurodiversity everywhere. There is even a club at my kids private. Good for them too

An IEP is what demonstrates that your kid has needs that require supports and modifications in the classroom. Yes, the whole point of this conversation is that the supposed “neurodiverse” kids at these supposedly “competitive” privates don’t actually have any sort of meaningful claim to being disabled. And that’s frankly insulting to those of us with very smart kids who are shut out of many educational opportunities.

I frankly do not want to hear about the “neurodiversity” of your Larla who you’ve been stuffing with Ritalin since 9, gets great grades, has tons of friends, and is applying to T20s. And you know why? Because in fact you’d be the first to ostracize my kid who doesn’t have the picturesque version of “neurodiversity” that apparently poses minimal challenges.

You’re not describing my child.
Many kids who are on the spectrum are able to keep up academically but are very socially awkward. These kids might have supports but there is no reason they can’t thrive in a competitive school where they might find other kids who are very smart but awkward. Other kids with adhd might have gone through years with a school where they knew something was wrong and work with the family as they get them on the right meds. And then again once the kid grows and meds need to be adjusted. Again with the right meds, can be just as successful at school. Privates actually flag more kids for diagnoses early probably so they can optimize the kid’s potential. What you’re asking is if even with supports, a kid is lagging behind academically or is behaviorally problematic can get into a top tier private? No - in the same way that any nt would also not get in.

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

If you’re going from private to private there is no iep. There is no record. You keep being told this

look, if your kid is going from private to private with no record of support needs why are we even talking about this? you can’t have it both ways. either your kid has a real disability or they don’t. but you’re just reinforcing what’s apparent to everyone: when you want your kid to have a diagnosis they do; when you don’t, they don’t.

What? An iep is not what makes someone have a disability. A diagnosis is. No one wants their kid to have a disability.
The point of the post is that the diagnostic criteria is now extremely wide to the point where not only is the stereotype of neurodiversity being a barrier to entry for mainstream privates, mainstream privates are now the ones seeing neurodiversity everywhere. There is even a club at my kids private. Good for them too

An IEP is what demonstrates that your kid has needs that require supports and modifications in the classroom. Yes, the whole point of this conversation is that the supposed “neurodiverse” kids at these supposedly “competitive” privates don’t actually have any sort of meaningful claim to being disabled. And that’s frankly insulting to those of us with very smart kids who are shut out of many educational opportunities.

I frankly do not want to hear about the “neurodiversity” of your Larla who you’ve been stuffing with Ritalin since 9, gets great grades, has tons of friends, and is applying to T20s. And you know why? Because in fact you’d be the first to ostracize my kid who doesn’t have the picturesque version of “neurodiversity” that apparently poses minimal challenges.

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

If you’re going from private to private there is no iep. There is no record. You keep being told this

look, if your kid is going from private to private with no record of support needs why are we even talking about this? you can’t have it both ways. either your kid has a real disability or they don’t. but you’re just reinforcing what’s apparent to everyone: when you want your kid to have a diagnosis they do; when you don’t, they don’t.

What? An iep is not what makes someone have a disability. A diagnosis is. No one wants their kid to have a disability.
The point of the post is that the diagnostic criteria is now extremely wide to the point where not only is the stereotype of neurodiversity being a barrier to entry for mainstream privates, mainstream privates are now the ones seeing neurodiversity everywhere. There is even a club at my kids private. Good for them too

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

If you’re going from private to private there is no iep. There is no record. You keep being told this

look, if your kid is going from private to private with no record of support needs why are we even talking about this? you can’t have it both ways. either your kid has a real disability or they don’t. but you’re just reinforcing what’s apparent to everyone: when you want your kid to have a diagnosis they do; when you don’t, they don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

If you’re going from private to private there is no iep. There is no record. You keep being told this

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Anonymous wrote:The prejudice on display in this thread clearly comes from ignorance.

there’s zero prejudice here. just massive eyerolling at the claims that 1/3 of tony private school kids actually have a disabiling condition.

I bet it is difficult for you to be so ignorant about disabilities so as to be posting so aggressively about this

No, I have a kid with autism. I’ve asked multiple times for people to post the names of these private schools where all these kids with IEPs and support needs get admitted. Please prove me wrong, I’d love that.

Private schools don’t have ieps. They create bespoke supports. I can only speak for nyc but there is no private in nyc that does not have some neurodiverse students. Trinity/ york prep/ Horace Mann/ Columbia grammar browning and Buckley all have lots of hfa kids and fieldston, poly prep, Dwight, ethical, Trevor day all have adhd kids (half of all these have dedicated support streams built in but are mainstream).
Surprised this is not typical in dc.

Some. And likely were admitted in younger grades and scraping buy. Obviously I know that privates do not have IEPs - but they do not and will not admit kids with a real IEP on their records, especially autism.

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Anonymous wrote:Many ill behaved students from our school go the privates to get help with their behavior. It really helped clean up our public school in the last 7 years.

ffs. behavioral problems are instant kryptonite to mainstream privates.

but if not, y’all, PLEASE spill the beans on all of these mainstream DMV privates admitting kids with IEPs and a history of behavioral issues! I would LOVE to be wrong. Gimme the names.

privates have no idea if you have behavioral issues or an iep. they get told what you want them to know and what your school tells them. you and your school have to agree on materials that are sent over.

They ask for results of neuropsych testing and for the prior school files to be sent. There’s really no way to hide it without lying. Maybe in the scenario where the IEP was dropped in 2nd grade and they are applying for HS.

No they don’t. Why would they ask for neuropsych testing? Why would they even know you had a neuropsych? And they don’t ask for files they ask for a report and your school works with you to send a report that puts kids best foot fwd. don’t need to disclose. Dumb to apply a kid to a school they won’t thrive in but lots of kids have learning differences and can still thrive in mainstream private

They ask for the results of any testing and they ask for records from the previous school. I guess you could lie. And that’s the whole point isn’t it? People are somehow simultaneously saying these elite privates are essentially SN schools but don’t admit kids with SN. Nonsense.