Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you may find the stats for Horace Mann in NYC interesting. There was one 4.0 last year, and that’s not unusual.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1728397429/horacemann/szq8dkzflvd840kzdvo3/HMSchoolProfile2024-25F.pdf

A 3.8 at a rigorous school puts you in a VERY good position to gain admission to the most selective colleges. Scroll down for a list of where these kids end up:

https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling

Didn't see any Harvard admits?

You have to scroll sideways on the one chart. There were 10.

Anonymous wrote:Some of you may find the stats for Horace Mann in NYC interesting. There was one 4.0 last year, and that’s not unusual.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1728397429/horacemann/szq8dkzflvd840kzdvo3/HMSchoolProfile2024-25F.pdf

A 3.8 at a rigorous school puts you in a VERY good position to gain admission to the most selective colleges. Scroll down for a list of where these kids end up:

https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling

Didn't see any Harvard admits?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is polluted with a bunch of wildly over-optimistic people. A 3.8 does not look good when 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs are a dime-a-dozen. Anybody that thinks those stats are a lock for Vanderbilt or Chicago or Dartmouth is nuts.

For private schools it is not nuts.

+1 Our school only had two kids get a 4.0 last year.

and HW has higher GPA than top NYC schools.

this is a game of inches at these schools, and some of it is regional

If you take a look at Harvard Westlake's unhooked college acceptance data, 3.8 / 4.5 gets you in many top universities, including ivies.

Some of you may find the stats for Horace Mann in NYC interesting. There was one 4.0 last year, and that’s not unusual.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1728397429/horacemann/szq8dkzflvd840kzdvo3/HMSchoolProfile2024-25F.pdf

A 3.8 at a rigorous school puts you in a VERY good position to gain admission to the most selective colleges. Scroll down for a list of where these kids end up:

https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone share where those with a 3.8uw at "Big3s" or rigorous privates are getting in this admissions season?

Any info on how private HS 3.8uw fared during ED/REA this year?

Anonymous wrote:no one can answer this withoyt know test scores, rigor, rank in class, ECs, LOCs, hooked, etc

yes they can! They can simply answer the question! sure, it can't be extrapolated to every 3.8 kid but that is not what is being asked.

no one can answer this withoyt know test scores, rigor, rank in class, ECs, LOCs, hooked, etc

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone share where those with a 3.8uw at "Big3s" or rigorous privates are getting in this admissions season?

+1

Can anyone share where those with a 3.8uw at "Big3s" or rigorous privates are getting in this admissions season?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Private HS kid here with this GPA (3.8uw).
Non-stem female (social sciences or English major)
How did these kids do last year?

looking for more data on a kid like this - humanities major, female, selective private with 3.8uw.

it depends on the precise high school.
It also depends on what the B grades were in: all A in humanities and the B grades in stem is much better for someone chasing humanities than B grades in humanities areas.
3.8uw from our HS that is private, top but not big3, sends 30% to T30s and over 20% get into UVA in state: 3.8uw with highest rigor but not aiming for STEM will get a student into UVA in state, WM, clemson, Wake forest, maybe BC, but not Top15/ivies. 3.8uw with average rigor(the median rigor is about 5 AP's total and a highest math level of AB calc in 12th grade) will get rejected at UVA and WL or rejected at WM but could get into VT. They would also get into UGA but not Clemson. The "humanities" interest is not really a boost, and female is a negative especially at WM and UVA.
The "better" private which is a Big3 would have better results for a 3.8uw because that is a relatively higher gpa at that school than it is at ours, plus that school has a higher median SAT so a 3.8uw student at that school likely scored higher than one at ours.

TLDR: just ask the counselor they do not mince words at privates, if they say a school is a reach it is.

Anonymous wrote:Has there always been this discrepancy btw public school and private school GPA? What accounts for it?

Grade inflation?
Size of class?

Many of the publics allow for retakes and also weighting. Most of the privates don't have retake policies and do not weight honor classes or AP classes.

Anonymous wrote:I found that private colleges give more weight to private school gpa’s. It’s harder at the top state schools. LAC’s and Ivies get it.

That was our experience as well.

Our Big3 school's senior class does not have a single kid with a 4.0. A 3.85 is a REALLY strong GPA. Ivy level in many cases. It corresponds with a 35 or 1550.