Anonymous wrote:https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/education/2024/01/17/474619/texas-gov-greg-abbott-gets-6m-campaign-donation-from-out-of-state-school-voucher-champion/

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott gets $6M campaign donation from out of state voucher advocates.

Undermine public education and set up Christian indoctrination schools in one fell swoop!

That was an interesting article. In Texas, it is rural republicans that are blocking vouchers to protect their public schools.

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/education/2024/01/17/474619/texas-gov-greg-abbott-gets-6m-campaign-donation-from-out-of-state-school-voucher-champion/

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott gets $6M campaign donation from out of state voucher advocates.

Undermine public education and set up Christian indoctrination schools in one fell swoop!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how many women must die in the meantime?

This is the worst timeline

This woman had access to 2 health insurance plans, and had neither. The article doesn’t give any details why she didn’t have health insurance.

She qualified for Texas Chip, her husband was Army Reserve Soldier and could have put her on Tricare Reserve Select.

The reports and news articles about this situation are not answering that question or investigating through official sources why this woman’s Chip application was never processed so she could get prenatal care. Of course she should have had Tricare Reserve Select, but everyone says it’s shameful to ask why her husband didn’t put her (and his unborn baby girl) on Tricare. He is completely absolved of any responsibility for his wife and unborn daughter.

In other words this story highlights the faults of our system. If those things were easily available why didn’t she have them? She is likely not the only one missing out. Why is it so complicated? One universal. system would be better.

I agree! Nobody is pushing for it and Americans are dying at high rates, are in poor health because of it. Biden did not even campaign on it and only a fringe group (Jayapal, Bernie...) brought up a proposal likely to go nowhere.

According to the CDC data

Maternal mortality rates per 100,000 births. 2018-2021.

United States  32.9

5 highest rate states include:

Arkansas  43.5
Mississippi  43.0
Tennessee 41.7
Alabama  41.4
Louisiana 39.0

California is among the lowest at 10.1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although some women with the same conditions as Yeni—hypertension, diabetes, a history of pulmonary edema, severe obesity—

This woman and her baby died from medical complications from obesity. Morbid obesity.

Cause of death: Hypertensive cardiovascular disease associated with morbid obesity

other contributing factors
Pregnancy

She wanted to be pregnant and wanted her baby.

Texas is a huge state. Specialized medical doctors are not available in small towns in most states.

I don’t know why the mother wasn’t on medicaid to receive medical benefits. She qualified for them.

I don't think so, she was undocumented . Undocumented immigrants are barred from Medicaid.

lol, you’re silly!

Anonymous wrote:PP here that noted the VA and DC rates. I work in a DC facility and know the maternal health and outcome data. My point was that we should not equate maternal outcomes solely with abortion or socio-economic status. We do a disservice to those who have a higher risk.

How much worse would maternal death rates get in those areas if abortion were banned?

PP here that noted the VA and DC rates. I work in a DC facility and know the maternal health and outcome data. My point was that we should not equate maternal outcomes solely with abortion or socio-economic status. We do a disservice to those who have a higher risk.

The article points to abortion law, not the OP

Anonymous wrote:OP is ridiculous. You may want to look at the maternal morbidity rates in Virginia and DC. They are HIGHER than the rate in Texas. This is NOT about abortion and you do a disservice by implying that it is to many women. Know your risk. Black women in particular need to know they may be at higher risk, particularly for hypertension, even without the comorbidities as the woman in the article, even without a history of HBP.
It is a small number of women and with good medical care this can be managed, so no need to be more stressed or anxious. But know your risk and make sure you go regularly to your OB appointments.

Yes Texas is utopia for sure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how many women must die in the meantime?

This is the worst timeline

This woman had access to 2 health insurance plans, and had neither. The article doesn’t give any details why she didn’t have health insurance.

She qualified for Texas Chip, her husband was Army Reserve Soldier and could have put her on Tricare Reserve Select.

The reports and news articles about this situation are not answering that question or investigating through official sources why this woman’s Chip application was never processed so she could get prenatal care. Of course she should have had Tricare Reserve Select, but everyone says it’s shameful to ask why her husband didn’t put her (and his unborn baby girl) on Tricare. He is completely absolved of any responsibility for his wife and unborn daughter.

In other words this story highlights the faults of our system. If those things were easily available why didn’t she have them? She is likely not the only one missing out. Why is it so complicated? One universal. system would be better.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is ridiculous. You may want to look at the maternal morbidity rates in Virginia and DC. They are HIGHER than the rate in Texas. This is NOT about abortion and you do a disservice by implying that it is to many women. Know your risk. Black women in particular need to know they may be at higher risk, particularly for hypertension, even without the comorbidities as the woman in the article, even without a history of HBP.
It is a small number of women and with good medical care this can be managed, so no need to be more stressed or anxious. But know your risk and make sure you go regularly to your OB appointments.

By a squeaker, not by some huge gulf.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/maternal-deaths-and-mortality-rates-per-100000-live-births/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Maternal%20Mortality%20Rate%20per%20100,000%20live%20Births%22,%22sort%22:%22desc%22%7D

And yeah cons’ feelings about abortion and the attending contempt for women are at the heart of maternal mortality. You guys do not think women are people (and I won’t even commit to writing down what you clearly think of non White women).

This whole thread has been a festival of forced birthers and their crap politics. “Nuh uh, ‘taint muh fault she died or any other woman might! It’s naught tuh do with me. Here’s why it’s her fault and his fault and the fault of the Democrats!…” You guys are the thought equivalent of an older sibling beating the dish out of a sibling and saying “stop hitting yourself.”

In addition to DC, the top five states with the highest severe maternal morbidity rates were California, Nevada, New Jersey, and New York, while Maryland, Rhode Island, Nebraska, and New Hampshire joined Utah as the states with the lowest rates.

Anonymous wrote:OP is ridiculous. You may want to look at the maternal morbidity rates in Virginia and DC. They are HIGHER than the rate in Texas. This is NOT about abortion and you do a disservice by implying that it is to many women. Know your risk. Black women in particular need to know they may be at higher risk, particularly for hypertension, even without the comorbidities as the woman in the article, even without a history of HBP.
It is a small number of women and with good medical care this can be managed, so no need to be more stressed or anxious. But know your risk and make sure you go regularly to your OB appointments.

By a squeaker, not by some huge gulf.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/maternal-deaths-and-mortality-rates-per-100000-live-births/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Maternal%20Mortality%20Rate%20per%20100,000%20live%20Births%22,%22sort%22:%22desc%22%7D

And yeah cons’ feelings about abortion and the attending contempt for women are at the heart of maternal mortality. You guys do not think women are people (and I won’t even commit to writing down what you clearly think of non White women).

This whole thread has been a festival of forced birthers and their crap politics. “Nuh uh, ‘taint muh fault she died or any other woman might! It’s naught tuh do with me. Here’s why it’s her fault and his fault and the fault of the Democrats!…” You guys are the thought equivalent of an older sibling beating the dish out of a sibling and saying “stop hitting yourself.”

Where You Live Determines Risk of Severe Pregnancy, Postpartum Complications

A new study found that Washington, DC had the highest rate of severe maternal morbidity in the country—nearly three times as high as Utah, the state with the lowest rate.

The chance of experiencing life-threating complications from pregnancy, childbirth, or the postpartum period may depend on where you live in the United States, according to a new study led by a School of Public Health researcher.

Published in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology, the study examined maternal health outcomes among Medicaid insurance recipients and found that rates of severe maternal morbidity (SMM), or “near miss” deaths, varied substantially by state and by race/ethnicity.

Across the country, SMM rates were highest in Washington, DC, at 200 cases per 10,000 live births—nearly three times as high as Utah, the state with the lowest SMM rate, at 80 cases per 10,000 live births.

https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2023/where-you-live-determines-risk-of-severe-pregnancy-postpartum-complications/

OP is ridiculous. You may want to look at the maternal morbidity rates in Virginia and DC. They are HIGHER than the rate in Texas. This is NOT about abortion and you do a disservice by implying that it is to many women. Know your risk. Black women in particular need to know they may be at higher risk, particularly for hypertension, even without the comorbidities as the woman in the article, even without a history of HBP.
It is a small number of women and with good medical care this can be managed, so no need to be more stressed or anxious. But know your risk and make sure you go regularly to your OB appointments.

Anonymous wrote:But how many women must die in the meantime?

This is the worst timeline

This woman had access to 2 health insurance plans, and had neither. The article doesn’t give any details why she didn’t have health insurance.

She qualified for Texas Chip, her husband was Army Reserve Soldier and could have put her on Tricare Reserve Select.

The reports and news articles about this situation are not answering that question or investigating through official sources why this woman’s Chip application was never processed so she could get prenatal care. Of course she should have had Tricare Reserve Select, but everyone says it’s shameful to ask why her husband didn’t put her (and his unborn baby girl) on Tricare. He is completely absolved of any responsibility for his wife and unborn daughter.