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Anonymous wrote:Yes but would only admit here

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the issue:

Sure, let's assume that attractive moneyed men really would be totally satisfied by a "kind", attractive woman who is available for s*x. The men in my circles are not wholly satisfied by that list, but it gets repeated over and over on dcum by some male posters, so let's assume that's what 99% of men are looking for.

(I put "kind" in quotes, because let's be honest that when this kind of men say they want someone "kind" they don't actually just mean "nice". They want someone who kindly handles all the day to day crap without complaining. They don't mean a woman who is literally "kind").

So they find a woman who meets those needs, who is with a guy who places no value on any thing beyond the above three prongs. So what does that say about a woman who is attracted to the kind of man who places no value on anything but those three prongs? You can posit a ton of things about her, none of which are super great character features in a woman.

So now, we know we have a man who places no value on anything beyond three things (s*x, looks, "kindness"), and we have a flawed woman who is attracted to this kind of man. So circularly, what kind of man - who already only wants three assets in a woman - and also is happy being with the kind of flawed woman who wants to be with this kind of man?

Totally circular, and self feeding cycle - that neither are my kind of people. Sorry.

(But again, i said above, lots of driven, well educated, women who are yoga instructors. I think the scenario i'm describing is about women who are "only" yoga instructors and don't have the other stuff in their lives).

So are you saying that men mating with women they are attracted to and those women being attracted to those men is a bad thing?

Maybe it is the circles I travel in, but directionally this is correct though not to the caricature extreme portrayed in this thread. The pair off is something like he’s very well credentialed (likely a graduate degree of some sort) and extremely economically successful in his field. She has a bachelors degree is well put together and stays home and runs a tight ship at home. Sure, I’m guessing many would accuse those women of being uninteresting or whatever, but, let’s get real. How many married couples with children in their forties are actually interesting?

I know about a dozen guys in my circle that are making seven figures and all but one fits the mold I described above. The outlier has a more educated wife and she’s earning 20% of what he makes. So is that really all that different from him marrying a yoga instructor or whatever?

Here’s the deal: the stay at home wife is a huge asset to a man’s career. I just think society has the causation reversed. It isn’t that moneyed, attractive men (whatever that means) desire a kind, attractive wife that will handle the day to day at home. It is that men that are married to kind wives that will handle the day to day at home are better positioned to be extremely successful in their career. I KNOW that’s been the case for me and a bunch of guys I know. I also posted in the divorce/asset split thread that the guy definitely owes his wife a 50/50 split for that reason.

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Anonymous wrote:The 28 YO I dated was a mechanical engineer. She was hot and smart.

Loooks go a long way for sure. She could have been a hair dresser for all I care . She treated me well, was sexy and fun to be around. She was a nice person.

The person I’m seeing now is 8-9 years younger than me and works at PWC. Once again, former athlete in college, thicc not thick, works out every day, likes sex, super sweet to me and she’s hot. Once again, she could be a cashier at Home Depot and I could care less it’s the other qualities she has. It’s nice she has money and has bought me dinner a couple of times - and I appreciate that -but she also wouldn’t have to and I’d still be attracted to her a lot.

Frankly I’m not used to being treated so well as I’ve been dating and married . I’m not sure what I’m supposed to do honestly as I’ve never been treated so nicely before except by the last two women I’ve dated or am dating. Usually women are bitter, angry, ghost you, sleeping with four guys at once…etc. so I thought that’s what it was going to be like so I did the same thing, was sleeping with a few women at once. It’s weird finding someone who is actually a good person and the last two changed my view

Why didn’t it work with the 28 year old hot chick?

Honestly so many of these posts from men just absolutely scream “I haven’t done the work and don’t understand my contribution to my failed relationships.” Get therapy dude.

I love it when women come back and scream “you haven’t done the work” as a way to absolve themselves of their bad behavior and not take accountability for their actions. It didn’t work out with the 28-year-old because life goals change for people as they get older. We’re still friends and still talk, unfortunately it wouldn’t work out long-term. I understand what it takes to be a relationship, unfortunately, a lot of women don’t and all they do is take from you which is why I’m not used to being treated so nicely when it does happen.

Anonymous wrote:Eh... I'm a yoga bod size 0 professional and attractive woman so I've never viewed this as like, some type of thing to be "against" like they had something "more." We all hung out and are friends! There is a slight amount of.. skepticism? With the influencer/yoga/dancer types that want a platform? Not into it. Do I judge these men? Well, I would judge MY man, but that means nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:The 28 YO I dated was a mechanical engineer. She was hot and smart.

Loooks go a long way for sure. She could have been a hair dresser for all I care . She treated me well, was sexy and fun to be around. She was a nice person.

The person I’m seeing now is 8-9 years younger than me and works at PWC. Once again, former athlete in college, thicc not thick, works out every day, likes sex, super sweet to me and she’s hot. Once again, she could be a cashier at Home Depot and I could care less it’s the other qualities she has. It’s nice she has money and has bought me dinner a couple of times - and I appreciate that -but she also wouldn’t have to and I’d still be attracted to her a lot.

Frankly I’m not used to being treated so well as I’ve been dating and married . I’m not sure what I’m supposed to do honestly as I’ve never been treated so nicely before except by the last two women I’ve dated or am dating. Usually women are bitter, angry, ghost you, sleeping with four guys at once…etc. so I thought that’s what it was going to be like so I did the same thing, was sleeping with a few women at once. It’s weird finding someone who is actually a good person and the last two changed my view

You found someone who is treating you well and you are sleeping with multiple people ....this right here is why there are so many bitter women. Lucky you found someone to pay for things I have never had that ever. If I did I would not be sleeping around on her.

Anonymous wrote:Yes but would only admit here