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Anonymous wrote:The only two candidates IMO are Kathleen and Zuraya. I don't know anything about Z but she's savvy enough to be wracking in all of the endorsements. Hopefully we will learn more about her in the upcoming candidate forums. And hopefully she's not APE.

Oh, goodie. Another person who has enough ACDC connections or inroads to get the endorsements.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand APE hate, but they're right about phones. We're messing with our kids' brains. They should be banned from schools. Read some of the recent scientific studies on this.

Ditto! This is making me like APE. The anti-APE-anti-cell-phoners are likely parents who just couldn't effectively manage their kids phone/digital device use and now justify it as impractical/impossible/unrealistic/or even a necessity. I don't care about cell phones per se; but I do care about cell phones in school and they should absolutely be banned during the school day.

No, we are parents who CAN manage our kids' cell phone use, and understand that it's better to teach kids how to use them responsibly than to ban them altogether.

You sound like parents who use this excuse to serve alcohol to 15yr olds. The science doesn’t agree with you on the benefits of giving your elementary and middle schoolers access to social media.

Banning them in school is not banning them entirely. And if a parent chooses to not allow their kid to have anything more than a flip phone, that's their choice and nothing wrong with it. It's their way of teaching their kids responsible phone use (ie, not using them at inappropriate times or in inappropriate places such as school.)
Part of teaching kids to use cell phones responsibly is to teach them not to use them at all when they are in classes, in meetings, or socializing in groups in person. Of course, I'm sure none of these parents' kids are doing any of that.

so if a kid's APS laptop stops working and the school takes 2 weeks to repair it, you want to prevent the kid from using their phone to access their work?

No, I want APS to not rely on digital devices for instruction and assignments. Since that's not going to happen, APS needs to be able to provide the devices necessary to do the work and teachers should not be requiring students to have a phone to do anything school-related, including digital calculators. Believe it or not, not every high school student has a cell phone with access to the internet. And believe it or not, sometimes high school students lose their cell phone privileges when parents take them away due to behavior or, ironically, poor academic performance. If APS requires students to have a phone, they should provide one. If they require a device to access work, they need to provide one.

Then get back to me AFTER you successfully lobby for APS to provide devices consistently that do everything that phones do, including spares when they break down and speedier repair and access to all the apps they need.

Perhaps if more students did not have access to such high tech phones, and if more parents did not provide their children with them or other personal iPads or laptops at home, APS would admit it needs to do these things.

Do you even see how circular your logic is?

Anonymous wrote:The only two candidates IMO are Kathleen and Zuraya. I don't know anything about Z but she's savvy enough to be wracking in all of the endorsements. Hopefully we will learn more about her in the upcoming candidate forums. And hopefully she's not APE.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand APE hate, but they're right about phones. We're messing with our kids' brains. They should be banned from schools. Read some of the recent scientific studies on this.

Ditto! This is making me like APE. The anti-APE-anti-cell-phoners are likely parents who just couldn't effectively manage their kids phone/digital device use and now justify it as impractical/impossible/unrealistic/or even a necessity. I don't care about cell phones per se; but I do care about cell phones in school and they should absolutely be banned during the school day.

No, we are parents who CAN manage our kids' cell phone use, and understand that it's better to teach kids how to use them responsibly than to ban them altogether.

You sound like parents who use this excuse to serve alcohol to 15yr olds. The science doesn’t agree with you on the benefits of giving your elementary and middle schoolers access to social media.

Banning them in school is not banning them entirely. And if a parent chooses to not allow their kid to have anything more than a flip phone, that's their choice and nothing wrong with it. It's their way of teaching their kids responsible phone use (ie, not using them at inappropriate times or in inappropriate places such as school.)
Part of teaching kids to use cell phones responsibly is to teach them not to use them at all when they are in classes, in meetings, or socializing in groups in person. Of course, I'm sure none of these parents' kids are doing any of that.

so if a kid's APS laptop stops working and the school takes 2 weeks to repair it, you want to prevent the kid from using their phone to access their work?

No, I want APS to not rely on digital devices for instruction and assignments. Since that's not going to happen, APS needs to be able to provide the devices necessary to do the work and teachers should not be requiring students to have a phone to do anything school-related, including digital calculators. Believe it or not, not every high school student has a cell phone with access to the internet. And believe it or not, sometimes high school students lose their cell phone privileges when parents take them away due to behavior or, ironically, poor academic performance. If APS requires students to have a phone, they should provide one. If they require a device to access work, they need to provide one.

Then get back to me AFTER you successfully lobby for APS to provide devices consistently that do everything that phones do, including spares when they break down and speedier repair and access to all the apps they need.

Just how often have your kids been without a working iPad or laptop (school issued or otherwise) that they have HAD ONLY their cell phone to do all of their schoolwork - and for how long each time? BTW, even the iPads and MacBooks don't always allow access to things the teachers have assigned (YouTube videos for example - sometimes they're blocked, sometimes they're not; so I still submit that perhaps APS instruction and teachers shouldn't be relying on them so friggin' much to begin with). Furthermore, when it IS absolutely necessary, the student COULD be (and in our experience IS) allowed to use their phone in class to do the classwork. The problem is expecting every student to have a fully capable and working smart phone. Not every student does, for various reasons, including the very credible and responsible decision by parents to limit their use or confiscate them for disciplinary purposes. Individual cell phones should NOT be part of the school day.

Believe me, it happens. Clearly more than you are aware. APS is notoriously slow to fix student laptops.

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Anonymous wrote:The only two candidates IMO are Kathleen and Zuraya. I don't know anything about Z but she's savvy enough to be wracking in all of the endorsements. Hopefully we will learn more about her in the upcoming candidate forums. And hopefully she's not APE.

CDT wracked up all the endorsements too, and that didn't turn out too well. I think if this whole process has shown us anything it's that we should take endorsements with a grain of salt.

Anonymous wrote:The only two candidates IMO are Kathleen and Zuraya. I don't know anything about Z but she's savvy enough to be wracking in all of the endorsements. Hopefully we will learn more about her in the upcoming candidate forums. And hopefully she's not APE.

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty certain Chen Ling is the APE candidate without saying he's the APE candidate. Hard pass.

Luckily, there are two candidates I will be very happy to vote for instead.

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty certain Chen Ling is the APE candidate without saying he's the APE candidate. Hard pass.

Luckily, there are two candidates I will be very happy to vote for instead.

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty certain Chen Ling is the APE candidate without saying he's the APE candidate. Hard pass.

Luckily, there are two candidates I will be very happy to vote for instead.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand APE hate, but they're right about phones. We're messing with our kids' brains. They should be banned from schools. Read some of the recent scientific studies on this.

Ditto! This is making me like APE. The anti-APE-anti-cell-phoners are likely parents who just couldn't effectively manage their kids phone/digital device use and now justify it as impractical/impossible/unrealistic/or even a necessity. I don't care about cell phones per se; but I do care about cell phones in school and they should absolutely be banned during the school day.

No, we are parents who CAN manage our kids' cell phone use, and understand that it's better to teach kids how to use them responsibly than to ban them altogether.

You sound like parents who use this excuse to serve alcohol to 15yr olds. The science doesn’t agree with you on the benefits of giving your elementary and middle schoolers access to social media.

Banning them in school is not banning them entirely. And if a parent chooses to not allow their kid to have anything more than a flip phone, that's their choice and nothing wrong with it. It's their way of teaching their kids responsible phone use (ie, not using them at inappropriate times or in inappropriate places such as school.)
Part of teaching kids to use cell phones responsibly is to teach them not to use them at all when they are in classes, in meetings, or socializing in groups in person. Of course, I'm sure none of these parents' kids are doing any of that.

so if a kid's APS laptop stops working and the school takes 2 weeks to repair it, you want to prevent the kid from using their phone to access their work?

No, I want APS to not rely on digital devices for instruction and assignments. Since that's not going to happen, APS needs to be able to provide the devices necessary to do the work and teachers should not be requiring students to have a phone to do anything school-related, including digital calculators. Believe it or not, not every high school student has a cell phone with access to the internet. And believe it or not, sometimes high school students lose their cell phone privileges when parents take them away due to behavior or, ironically, poor academic performance. If APS requires students to have a phone, they should provide one. If they require a device to access work, they need to provide one.

Then get back to me AFTER you successfully lobby for APS to provide devices consistently that do everything that phones do, including spares when they break down and speedier repair and access to all the apps they need.

Perhaps if more students did not have access to such high tech phones, and if more parents did not provide their children with them or other personal iPads or laptops at home, APS would admit it needs to do these things.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand APE hate, but they're right about phones. We're messing with our kids' brains. They should be banned from schools. Read some of the recent scientific studies on this.

Ditto! This is making me like APE. The anti-APE-anti-cell-phoners are likely parents who just couldn't effectively manage their kids phone/digital device use and now justify it as impractical/impossible/unrealistic/or even a necessity. I don't care about cell phones per se; but I do care about cell phones in school and they should absolutely be banned during the school day.

No, we are parents who CAN manage our kids' cell phone use, and understand that it's better to teach kids how to use them responsibly than to ban them altogether.

You sound like parents who use this excuse to serve alcohol to 15yr olds. The science doesn’t agree with you on the benefits of giving your elementary and middle schoolers access to social media.

Banning them in school is not banning them entirely. And if a parent chooses to not allow their kid to have anything more than a flip phone, that's their choice and nothing wrong with it. It's their way of teaching their kids responsible phone use (ie, not using them at inappropriate times or in inappropriate places such as school.)
Part of teaching kids to use cell phones responsibly is to teach them not to use them at all when they are in classes, in meetings, or socializing in groups in person. Of course, I'm sure none of these parents' kids are doing any of that.

so if a kid's APS laptop stops working and the school takes 2 weeks to repair it, you want to prevent the kid from using their phone to access their work?

No, I want APS to not rely on digital devices for instruction and assignments. Since that's not going to happen, APS needs to be able to provide the devices necessary to do the work and teachers should not be requiring students to have a phone to do anything school-related, including digital calculators. Believe it or not, not every high school student has a cell phone with access to the internet. And believe it or not, sometimes high school students lose their cell phone privileges when parents take them away due to behavior or, ironically, poor academic performance. If APS requires students to have a phone, they should provide one. If they require a device to access work, they need to provide one.

Then get back to me AFTER you successfully lobby for APS to provide devices consistently that do everything that phones do, including spares when they break down and speedier repair and access to all the apps they need.

Just how often have your kids been without a working iPad or laptop (school issued or otherwise) that they have HAD ONLY their cell phone to do all of their schoolwork - and for how long each time? BTW, even the iPads and MacBooks don't always allow access to things the teachers have assigned (YouTube videos for example - sometimes they're blocked, sometimes they're not; so I still submit that perhaps APS instruction and teachers shouldn't be relying on them so friggin' much to begin with). Furthermore, when it IS absolutely necessary, the student COULD be (and in our experience IS) allowed to use their phone in class to do the classwork. The problem is expecting every student to have a fully capable and working smart phone. Not every student does, for various reasons, including the very credible and responsible decision by parents to limit their use or confiscate them for disciplinary purposes. Individual cell phones should NOT be part of the school day.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand APE hate, but they're right about phones. We're messing with our kids' brains. They should be banned from schools. Read some of the recent scientific studies on this.

Ditto! This is making me like APE. The anti-APE-anti-cell-phoners are likely parents who just couldn't effectively manage their kids phone/digital device use and now justify it as impractical/impossible/unrealistic/or even a necessity. I don't care about cell phones per se; but I do care about cell phones in school and they should absolutely be banned during the school day.

No, we are parents who CAN manage our kids' cell phone use, and understand that it's better to teach kids how to use them responsibly than to ban them altogether.

You sound like parents who use this excuse to serve alcohol to 15yr olds. The science doesn’t agree with you on the benefits of giving your elementary and middle schoolers access to social media.

Banning them in school is not banning them entirely. And if a parent chooses to not allow their kid to have anything more than a flip phone, that's their choice and nothing wrong with it. It's their way of teaching their kids responsible phone use (ie, not using them at inappropriate times or in inappropriate places such as school.)
Part of teaching kids to use cell phones responsibly is to teach them not to use them at all when they are in classes, in meetings, or socializing in groups in person. Of course, I'm sure none of these parents' kids are doing any of that.

so if a kid's APS laptop stops working and the school takes 2 weeks to repair it, you want to prevent the kid from using their phone to access their work?

No, I want APS to not rely on digital devices for instruction and assignments. Since that's not going to happen, APS needs to be able to provide the devices necessary to do the work and teachers should not be requiring students to have a phone to do anything school-related, including digital calculators. Believe it or not, not every high school student has a cell phone with access to the internet. And believe it or not, sometimes high school students lose their cell phone privileges when parents take them away due to behavior or, ironically, poor academic performance. If APS requires students to have a phone, they should provide one. If they require a device to access work, they need to provide one.

Then get back to me AFTER you successfully lobby for APS to provide devices consistently that do everything that phones do, including spares when they break down and speedier repair and access to all the apps they need.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand APE hate, but they're right about phones. We're messing with our kids' brains. They should be banned from schools. Read some of the recent scientific studies on this.

Ditto! This is making me like APE. The anti-APE-anti-cell-phoners are likely parents who just couldn't effectively manage their kids phone/digital device use and now justify it as impractical/impossible/unrealistic/or even a necessity. I don't care about cell phones per se; but I do care about cell phones in school and they should absolutely be banned during the school day.

No, we are parents who CAN manage our kids' cell phone use, and understand that it's better to teach kids how to use them responsibly than to ban them altogether.

You sound like parents who use this excuse to serve alcohol to 15yr olds. The science doesn’t agree with you on the benefits of giving your elementary and middle schoolers access to social media.

Banning them in school is not banning them entirely. And if a parent chooses to not allow their kid to have anything more than a flip phone, that's their choice and nothing wrong with it. It's their way of teaching their kids responsible phone use (ie, not using them at inappropriate times or in inappropriate places such as school.)
Part of teaching kids to use cell phones responsibly is to teach them not to use them at all when they are in classes, in meetings, or socializing in groups in person. Of course, I'm sure none of these parents' kids are doing any of that.

so if a kid's APS laptop stops working and the school takes 2 weeks to repair it, you want to prevent the kid from using their phone to access their work?

No, I want APS to not rely on digital devices for instruction and assignments. Since that's not going to happen, APS needs to be able to provide the devices necessary to do the work and teachers should not be requiring students to have a phone to do anything school-related, including digital calculators. Believe it or not, not every high school student has a cell phone with access to the internet. And believe it or not, sometimes high school students lose their cell phone privileges when parents take them away due to behavior or, ironically, poor academic performance. If APS requires students to have a phone, they should provide one. If they require a device to access work, they need to provide one.

Then get back to me AFTER you successfully lobby for APS to provide devices consistently that do everything that phones do, including spares when they break down and speedier repair and access to all the apps they need.