Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
I find this very hard to believe. I know a LOT of men who are shorter than 5’9” - happy successful and married with families etc. Various careers and income levels. I think greater height is of course an advantage, but is not nearly as big of a deal IRL as described.
How old are you?
I think there is a difference between over 45 and under 35
And secondly yes I know many under 5’8 men who are married with families - they are all MDs, attorneys or very successful finance/tech professionals (ie none make under 300)
What are you saying? MC short men don't exist, or MC short men should just go hide behind a rock because their life is over and they'll never find a wife?
My point is to support what others have said in this thread - that for younger people there seems to be a starker height penalty than it was for gen x or older
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
I find this very hard to believe. I know a LOT of men who are shorter than 5’9” - happy successful and married with families etc. Various careers and income levels. I think greater height is of course an advantage, but is not nearly as big of a deal IRL as described.
How old are you?
I think there is a difference between over 45 and under 35
And secondly yes I know many under 5’8 men who are married with families - they are all MDs, attorneys or very successful finance/tech professionals (ie none make under 300)
What are you saying? MC short men don't exist, or MC short men should just go hide behind a rock because their life is over and they'll never find a wife?
Anonymous wrote:It's the UMC emphasis on fitting in.
I'm a tall woman and graduated from an UMC private in 1989; any girls who were taller than average or boys who were shorter than average were really given a hard time. I would have loved to have attended an average public school instead.
Not being average or taller for boys, or average or shorter for girls is an issue for the UMC. My DC metro based relatives expressed horror that their dd could potentially be my size and were super happy when she stopped growing, and is, instead, a "normal" sized girl.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
I find this very hard to believe. I know a LOT of men who are shorter than 5’9” - happy successful and married with families etc. Various careers and income levels. I think greater height is of course an advantage, but is not nearly as big of a deal IRL as described.
How old are you?
I think there is a difference between over 45 and under 35
And secondly yes I know many under 5’8 men who are married with families - they are all MDs, attorneys or very successful finance/tech professionals (ie none make under 300)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
I find this very hard to believe. I know a LOT of men who are shorter than 5’9” - happy successful and married with families etc. Various careers and income levels. I think greater height is of course an advantage, but is not nearly as big of a deal IRL as described.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
I find this very hard to believe. I know a LOT of men who are shorter than 5’9” - happy successful and married with families etc. Various careers and income levels. I think greater height is of course an advantage, but is not nearly as big of a deal IRL as described.
Anonymous wrote:It's the UMC emphasis on fitting in.
I'm a tall woman and graduated from an UMC private in 1989; any girls who were taller than average or boys who were shorter than average were really given a hard time. I would have loved to have attended an average public school instead.
Not being average or taller for boys, or average or shorter for girls is an issue for the UMC. My DC metro based relatives expressed horror that their dd could potentially be my size and were super happy when she stopped growing, and is, instead, a "normal" sized girl.
Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
Anonymous wrote:Just got back from London and wanted to share my observations:
I went to many events - opera, museums, work stuff etc and I didn’t see a single family (or couple) where the guy was under 5’9 unless it was an immigrant couple.
The height penalty is acute and can be overcome through money or status but I think the honest thing you can tell short sons is in 2024, below avg height must be compensated with excellent career/money prospects
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately it’s mostly sports. Our varsity baseball coach told a few juniors last year that, were they an inch or two taller, they would’ve made the team. So it had nothing to do with their ability or work ethic- just height
Definitely NOT true in my situation. My son was 5"6 when he played the #1 position at his HS and won the state 6A championship in tennis as a freshman. He was 5"9 when he graduated from high school. The coach couldn't keep him off the team because he easily beat everyone at the tryout as a freshman. Coaches have very little control in individual sports because of head-to-head records.
Height doesn't matter in tennis. Are you really comparing the importance of height in basketball, which is what others were discussing, to tennis?
It matters in tennis too. Taller guys have better reach and bigger guys have faster serves. Top ATP guys are generally all 6 foot or over.
You need to get out more often. There are many Asian players on the tennis rosters in Fairfax County Public School that are NOT tall. The kid that won three state 6A championship from Chantilly HS is barely 5”8’.
Height and strength matter in tennis. They are not the only factors, though. Yeah, a 5'8 kid can beat 6'3 powerhouses if they've had years and years of private lessons.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. Unfortunately made varsity in his sport as freshman - so drubbing the big guys in their sport of choice has inflicted some of the abuse - but doesn’t explain it all.
Thanks to PP who said parents act like height is an accomplishment. He works really hard in his sport and is pretty solid citizen. But the daily - sounds like hourly on some days - emphasis makes me doubt humanity sometimes. Are we really this primal?
Had some acquaintances who went on and on and on about how tall their son was when the boys were playing AAA Hockey as U14?15? (Can't exactly remember). He was...but they failed to notice that he stopped growing for almost a year and by the time they took him to have him checked, too late. He's 5'7" now at 23. Lots of early puberty and absurd focus on height, but it's not always what they think it wiil be.
Also: there's really nothing wrong with whatever your height is as long as nobody has given you a complex about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. Unfortunately made varsity in his sport as freshman - so drubbing the big guys in their sport of choice has inflicted some of the abuse - but doesn’t explain it all.
Thanks to PP who said parents act like height is an accomplishment. He works really hard in his sport and is pretty solid citizen. But the daily - sounds like hourly on some days - emphasis makes me doubt humanity sometimes. Are we really this primal?
Had some acquaintances who went on and on and on about how tall their son was when the boys were playing AAA Hockey as U14?15? (Can't exactly remember). He was...but they failed to notice that he stopped growing for almost a year and by the time they took him to have him checked, too late. He's 5'7" now at 23. Lots of early puberty and absurd focus on height, but it's not always what they think it wiil be.
Also: there's really nothing wrong with whatever your height is as long as nobody has given you a complex about it.