I have zero issues as well! Has worked tremendously well.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch the "special". Did they address the probable need to stay on these drugs forever to maintain the weight loss? Or that some patients build up a tolerance and the drugs stop working for them as they had before?

Yes, they said you would likely need to be on the drugs forever, but made it sound like that was not a big deal, that whatever the risks of these drugs, there are more risks to being obese. They were very big on a sort of pop therapy "let go of the shame, it is a disease, you should treat it the way you would any other disease" (I'm not saying there isn't some merit to that but it has to be viewed in the context here of pushing these drugs with just a bit of lip service to the other side).

They didn't really discuss tolerance but they did show a couple of cases where the drugs did not work as desired. One was a woman who had severe nausea. She was vomiting blood and how to go to the ER. The doctors didn't tell her that "the drugs" weren't for her, but "that one" wasn't. Oprah immediately asked if she switched to a different drug. The woman was considering it but she was hesitant due to the experience.

The other unsuccessful case was the mother of the very obese young girl. They were both on the same drug (something with a V that I'd not heard of) which was the only one approved for a teen. The mother was clearly still obese and she said it did not work very well for her, but that she couldn't afford to pay for the other ones out of pocket. It was hinting at the fact that the insurance companies are mean and don't want to pay and they had shots of the audience nodding along in sympathy. Then at the end one of the pharma companies said the same thing about the insurance companies.

The worst part for me was the end where the doctors said you need to weigh four factors (paraphrasing):
What are the negatives of taking the drug?
What are the negatives of not taking it?
What are the positives of taking the drug?
What are the positives of not taking it?
(I would have liked them to ask "How does being on these drugs affect your day to day life?" and "How can you treat the condition without drugs?")

The doctors said that there were some risks for pancreatitis and a couple of other serious things, but that it was basically just for people who already had a history and they basically handwaved it as not a big deal for most people unless you already had those conditions and they got through that part real quick, like under a minute.

It made me more skeptical of the drugs, if anything.

That's correct though. If you don't normally deal with constipation, you're not likely to get constipated, and so on. That is what made me decide to start: I have zero stomach issues. And I still don't on semaglutide.

PP. I'm glad it is working for you.

Anonymous wrote:Wow! Just wow! Oprah‘s new physique. She looks better than ever. (she is part owner of Weight Watchers.)

Healthy living is paying off. She looks gorgeous.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0yt1OJMuhN/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

How does she do it?

Lifetime supply of Ozempic now runs $1k a month in Cali. Maybe it’s less in Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch the "special". Did they address the probable need to stay on these drugs forever to maintain the weight loss? Or that some patients build up a tolerance and the drugs stop working for them as they had before?

Yes, they said you would likely need to be on the drugs forever, but made it sound like that was not a big deal, that whatever the risks of these drugs, there are more risks to being obese. They were very big on a sort of pop therapy "let go of the shame, it is a disease, you should treat it the way you would any other disease" (I'm not saying there isn't some merit to that but it has to be viewed in the context here of pushing these drugs with just a bit of lip service to the other side).

They didn't really discuss tolerance but they did show a couple of cases where the drugs did not work as desired. One was a woman who had severe nausea. She was vomiting blood and how to go to the ER. The doctors didn't tell her that "the drugs" weren't for her, but "that one" wasn't. Oprah immediately asked if she switched to a different drug. The woman was considering it but she was hesitant due to the experience.

The other unsuccessful case was the mother of the very obese young girl. They were both on the same drug (something with a V that I'd not heard of) which was the only one approved for a teen. The mother was clearly still obese and she said it did not work very well for her, but that she couldn't afford to pay for the other ones out of pocket. It was hinting at the fact that the insurance companies are mean and don't want to pay and they had shots of the audience nodding along in sympathy. Then at the end one of the pharma companies said the same thing about the insurance companies.

The worst part for me was the end where the doctors said you need to weigh four factors (paraphrasing):
What are the negatives of taking the drug?
What are the negatives of not taking it?
What are the positives of taking the drug?
What are the positives of not taking it?
(I would have liked them to ask "How does being on these drugs affect your day to day life?" and "How can you treat the condition without drugs?")

The doctors said that there were some risks for pancreatitis and a couple of other serious things, but that it was basically just for people who already had a history and they basically handwaved it as not a big deal for most people unless you already had those conditions and they got through that part real quick, like under a minute.

It made me more skeptical of the drugs, if anything.

That's correct though. If you don't normally deal with constipation, you're not likely to get constipated, and so on. That is what made me decide to start: I have zero stomach issues. And I still don't on semaglutide.

The worst part for me was the end where the doctors said you need to weigh four factors (paraphrasing):
What are the negatives of taking the drug?
What are the negatives of not taking it?
What are the positives of taking the drug?
What are the positives of not taking it?

This obviously makes no sense lol. It was basically what are the negatives/positives of taking the drugs and the negatives/positives of not taking them, but they didn't actually discuss each position. I don't think they mentioned "positives of not taking" at all, of course.

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch the "special". Did they address the probable need to stay on these drugs forever to maintain the weight loss? Or that some patients build up a tolerance and the drugs stop working for them as they had before?

Yes, they said you would likely need to be on the drugs forever, but made it sound like that was not a big deal, that whatever the risks of these drugs, there are more risks to being obese. They were very big on a sort of pop therapy "let go of the shame, it is a disease, you should treat it the way you would any other disease" (I'm not saying there isn't some merit to that but it has to be viewed in the context here of pushing these drugs with just a bit of lip service to the other side).

They didn't really discuss tolerance but they did show a couple of cases where the drugs did not work as desired. One was a woman who had severe nausea. She was vomiting blood and how to go to the ER. The doctors didn't tell her that "the drugs" weren't for her, but "that one" wasn't. Oprah immediately asked if she switched to a different drug. The woman was considering it but she was hesitant due to the experience.

The other unsuccessful case was the mother of the very obese young girl. They were both on the same drug (something with a V that I'd not heard of) which was the only one approved for a teen. The mother was clearly still obese and she said it did not work very well for her, but that she couldn't afford to pay for the other ones out of pocket. It was hinting at the fact that the insurance companies are mean and don't want to pay and they had shots of the audience nodding along in sympathy. Then at the end one of the pharma companies said the same thing about the insurance companies.

The worst part for me was the end where the doctors said you need to weigh four factors (paraphrasing):
What are the negatives of taking the drug?
What are the negatives of not taking it?
What are the positives of taking the drug?
What are the positives of not taking it?
(I would have liked them to ask "How does being on these drugs affect your day to day life?" and "How can you treat the condition without drugs?")

The doctors said that there were some risks for pancreatitis and a couple of other serious things, but that it was basically just for people who already had a history and they basically handwaved it as not a big deal for most people unless you already had those conditions and they got through that part real quick, like under a minute.

It made me more skeptical of the drugs, if anything.

Anonymous wrote:Money
Access to latest and expensive drugs and procedures.
Access to professional make up experts, stylists, cameraman, filter apps, expensive clothing and accessories etc etc.

No billionaire with industry contacts needs to look ordinary.

Also she has no money worries, no husband, no meddling in laws, no kids or elderly parents to stress about. There is one BF who can be thrown out at a moment's notice.

I think he lives in a small side house and must knock and be let in.