Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:59     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

NORTH BAY HARDWARE STORE'S HOLIDAY DISPLAY VANDALIZED, NATIVITY SCENE DAMAGED
"Very sad somebody wanted to deface something so joyful, we're just trying to make the community happy," said an employee.

SEBASTOPOL, Calif. (KGO) -- It's not even Thanksgiving but a vandal is suspected of taking all the air out of the holidays in one North Bay Community. Giant inflatables were slashed and spray-painted outside a local hardware store, a nativity scene was damaged too.

For the last six years, Sebastopol Hardware Center has been serving up Christmas with all the sparkle, in their holiday market tent.

"I come here and say, oh I can't wait to see what they have because they have great stuff here," said Bayne Cassidy.

"It's an exciting time for us, and for the community, obviously someone didn't feel that way," said store general manager Dan Allingham.

Allingham says early Sunday morning, eight giant holiday inflatables outside the tent were vandalized.

The figures were slashed and spray-painted with anarchy symbols and pentagrams.

Vandals also took black paint to the store's nativity scene. Most of the paint was removed
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:58     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Outdoor manger scene destroyed at Immaculate Heart of Mary in Towson

TOWSON, Md. — A manger scene on the lawn of Immaculate Heart of Mary Parish, on Loch Raven Boulevard in the Towson area, has been vandalized.

There will be a special place for the person(s) who did this to our manger at Immaculate Heart Of Mary Church. On your day of judgement, you will be reminded of December 22-23, 2022. Disgraceful," he wrote. "But rest assured we will build a bigger and better one next December for our Live Nativity."
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:57     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Y'all too dumb to google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Temple


The Satanic Temple (TST) is a non-theistic religious organization and new religious movement[1] that is primarily based in the United States,[8] with additional congregations in Australia, Canada, Finland, Germany, and the United Kingdom.[9][10] Co-founded by Lucien Greaves, the organization's spokesperson, and Malcolm Jarry,[11][12] the organization uses Satanic imagery to promote civil rights, egalitarianism, religious skepticism, social justice, secularism, and the separation of church and state,[1][2] supporting their mission "to encourage benevolence and empathy [among all people]."[13]

The Satanic Temple does not believe in a supernatural Satan;[1] instead it employs the literary Satan as a metaphor to promote pragmatic skepticism, rational reciprocity, personal autonomy, and curiosity.[12] Satan is thus used as a symbol representing "the eternal rebel" against arbitrary authority and social norms.[19][20] TST adherents generally refer to their religion as "Satanism" or "Modern Satanism",[21] while others refer to TST's religion as "Compassionate Satanism" or "Seven Tenet Satanism".[22][23]


So no belief in a higher power, no belief in a supernatural entity, just anti-authority and humanist.

Still a religion, whether you want to believe it in or not.

So you are against religious freedoms for all? Only the ones you approve of?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:56     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:Y'all too dumb to google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Temple


The Satanic Temple (TST) is a non-theistic religious organization and new religious movement[1] that is primarily based in the United States,[8] with additional congregations in Australia, Canada, Finland, Germany, and the United Kingdom.[9][10] Co-founded by Lucien Greaves, the organization's spokesperson, and Malcolm Jarry,[11][12] the organization uses Satanic imagery to promote civil rights, egalitarianism, religious skepticism, social justice, secularism, and the separation of church and state,[1][2] supporting their mission "to encourage benevolence and empathy [among all people]."[13]

The Satanic Temple does not believe in a supernatural Satan;[1] instead it employs the literary Satan as a metaphor to promote pragmatic skepticism, rational reciprocity, personal autonomy, and curiosity.[12] Satan is thus used as a symbol representing "the eternal rebel" against arbitrary authority and social norms.[19][20] TST adherents generally refer to their religion as "Satanism" or "Modern Satanism",[21] while others refer to TST's religion as "Compassionate Satanism" or "Seven Tenet Satanism".[22][23]


So no belief in a higher power, no belief in a supernatural entity, just anti-authority and humanist.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:55     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Nativity Scene Disrupted at St. Joan of Arc Church

JACKSON HEIGHTS — Police are investigating an incident at St. Joan of Arc Church in Jackson Heights, where a Nativity scene was disturbed, and a statue was damaged.


A damaged statue was found in the Blessed Mother Shrine Garden outside of St. Joan of Arc Church in Jackson Heights.
Msgr William Hoppe, pastor of St. Joan of Arc, said that around 7 a.m.

Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:55     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:Montana church's nativity scene vandalized: 'The wise men were all decapitated'

BILLINGS — At St. Patrick Co-Cathedral in Billings, the Christmas nativity scene is typically left up until early February.

But this year—that's not the case. The church's outdoor nativity scene was destroyed on January 16 - the same night Mary Queen of Peace Catholic Church was broken into on the Billings South Side.

Father Leo McDowell said the incident has rattled the church at 215 North 31st Street.

"The wise men were all decapitated, the animals were strewn all over, and Mary, Jesus, and Joseph were missing,” McDowell said. “It was kind of a shock to think that someone would come in and do that."

Well if its ok to behead other religions altars, why not this one?

Speak out about ALL religious freedoms or keep it to yourself.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:54     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Y'all too dumb to google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Temple


The Satanic Temple (TST) is a non-theistic religious organization and new religious movement[1] that is primarily based in the United States,[8] with additional congregations in Australia, Canada, Finland, Germany, and the United Kingdom.[9][10] Co-founded by Lucien Greaves, the organization's spokesperson, and Malcolm Jarry,[11][12] the organization uses Satanic imagery to promote civil rights, egalitarianism, religious skepticism, social justice, secularism, and the separation of church and state,[1][2] supporting their mission "to encourage benevolence and empathy [among all people]."[13]

The Satanic Temple does not believe in a supernatural Satan;[1] instead it employs the literary Satan as a metaphor to promote pragmatic skepticism, rational reciprocity, personal autonomy, and curiosity.[12] Satan is thus used as a symbol representing "the eternal rebel" against arbitrary authority and social norms.[19][20] TST adherents generally refer to their religion as "Satanism" or "Modern Satanism",[21] while others refer to TST's religion as "Compassionate Satanism" or "Seven Tenet Satanism".[22][23]
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:54     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Montana church's nativity scene vandalized: 'The wise men were all decapitated'

BILLINGS — At St. Patrick Co-Cathedral in Billings, the Christmas nativity scene is typically left up until early February.

But this year—that's not the case. The church's outdoor nativity scene was destroyed on January 16 - the same night Mary Queen of Peace Catholic Church was broken into on the Billings South Side.

Father Leo McDowell said the incident has rattled the church at 215 North 31st Street.

"The wise men were all decapitated, the animals were strewn all over, and Mary, Jesus, and Joseph were missing,” McDowell said. “It was kind of a shock to think that someone would come in and do that."
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:52     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.


The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!


What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.


Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.


The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

So you feel like you need to dissect and approve of each part of a religion for it to be valid? If you are curious about their religion I'm sure they have meetings you can attend.

But you still haven't spoken out about a christian man destroying an altar for a different religion. If we are for religious freedoms, does it not apply to all, or only the ones you approve of?


What does a Satanic altar mean at Christmas time? Is it how Satanists celebrate Christmas?

Anybody know what it means?

Err kind of showing your bias here. Not everyone celebrates "christmas".
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:51     Subject: Re:America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

""Not only was that display targeted, but it was also targeted specifically by Christians, for sectarian religious reasons. This targeting was encouraged by legislators and even had the Iowa Governor, Kim Reynolds, calling it 'evil.' This is unacceptable," Benell wrote. "When our leaders make it permissible to destroy religious ― or non-religious — displays they find religiously objectionable, they are abdicating their responsibility to safeguard the freedom of expression of the citizens they represent.""

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2023/12/15/michael-cassidy-charged-for-vandalizing-satanic-temple-display-at-iowa-capitol-mississippi-candidate/71930181007/
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:51     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.


The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!


What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.


Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.


The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

So you feel like you need to dissect and approve of each part of a religion for it to be valid? If you are curious about their religion I'm sure they have meetings you can attend.

But you still haven't spoken out about a christian man destroying an altar for a different religion. If we are for religious freedoms, does it not apply to all, or only the ones you approve of?


What does a Satanic altar mean at Christmas time? Is it how Satanists celebrate Christmas?

Anybody know what it means?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:50     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.


The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!


What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.


Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.


The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

So you feel like you need to dissect and approve of each part of a religion for it to be valid? If you are curious about their religion I'm sure they have meetings you can attend.

But you still haven't spoken out about a christian man destroying an altar for a different religion. If we are for religious freedoms, does it not apply to all, or only the ones you approve of?


What’s the definition of religion?

religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.

That’s not what Satanists are, they don’t believe in the supernatural, gods, or God.

They don’t even believe in Satan.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:50     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

"An Iowa fight over a Satanic display reminds us: Republicans believe "free speech" is only for them"

https://www.salon.com/2023/12/12/an-iowa-fight-over-a-satanic-display-reminds-us-believe-free-speech-is-only-for-them/
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:46     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.


The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!


What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.


Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.


The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

So you feel like you need to dissect and approve of each part of a religion for it to be valid? If you are curious about their religion I'm sure they have meetings you can attend.

But you still haven't spoken out about a christian man destroying an altar for a different religion. If we are for religious freedoms, does it not apply to all, or only the ones you approve of?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 14:45     Subject: America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.


The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!


What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.


Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.


Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

14:27 started the thread jack about the Satanic thing in Iowa. Agree they should start their own thread. You should let them know you don’t appreciate their attempt at thread jacking.