Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:35
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
It wasn’t a court of law. It was a vote by partisan politicians, not neutral judges, to remove or not remove him from office based on his conduct and actions in that office. The vote neither absolved him from being guilty of those actions nor made a definitive judicial statement about the nature of his actions, only that the majority of senators from his own party decided not to remove him from office.
You can say the same thing about the House that voted to impeach him. And the J6 committee. Neither were courts of laws but highly partisan bodies. And it must also be admitted many courts are becoming highly partisan bodies themselves too, which is also disappointing. You can't accuse a certain court like SCOTUS of being partisan without acknowledging other courts are also highly partisan in favor of the Democrats. Nonetheless, regarding the Colorado court and many of the posts on here, it is worth noting on that count that the criminal indictment of Donald Trump over January 6, filed in Washington DC in the summer, did not include an insurrection charge — focusing instead on his ‘conspiracy to defraud the United States’ over the 2020 election.
The J6 committee was bi-partisan, no matter how much you want to claim the GOP members were somehow not GOP.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:34
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
+1
I see the bots have entered the chat
Nah, just real people outside of the D.C. bubble and who reflect the views of the majority of the country.
When was the last time the GOP had a "majority of the country" support their candidate?
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:33
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
That isn't a legal finding. The Senate requires a 2/3 vote to remove someone from office. Anything short of that is not legally an acquittal despite the inelegant use of the word by journalists.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:32
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
It's going to the SC where it'll be heard by a conservative majority, including three justices appointed by Trump. So maybe you'll get the result you want there. I suspect it's not going to be a slam dunk as you might think, though. I'm not sure that they'll want their personal legacies tied to Trump's criminality and insurrection (I mean we know that Thomas and Alito are corrupt and how they'll vote, but it's not as clear cut for the rest of them).
Thomas and Alito want the feds to stay out of election law. Throw Kavanaugh and Roberts into the same category. This is a state following their own election laws.
Yet the SCOTUS has had no problem interfering with state drawn boundaries or voting laws where the national VRA is concerned. Ultimately in several cases, the Supreme Court has ruled that each individual state has its own laws and rules that should be respected. Neil Gorsuch affirmed such a position when he was on a lower court specifically about Colorado. If the conservative, strict constitutionalist, plain text and meaning justices hold true to what they professed to believe in their sworn testimony before the Senate, then they should either not hear this case or decide quickly in its affirmation.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:28
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
No one "made stuff up"
You know how some people are low information? Low information in this case is beleiving that facts and evidence of inciting an insurrection were not brought before the court. Those facts and evidence WERE brought before the court and both the lower court and supreme court agreed to the facts as evidence. Read the case brought before the court and then read the decision. They were thorough in the analysis of the evidence brought forth.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:24
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
It wasn’t a court of law. It was a vote by partisan politicians, not neutral judges, to remove or not remove him from office based on his conduct and actions in that office. The vote neither absolved him from being guilty of those actions nor made a definitive judicial statement about the nature of his actions, only that the majority of senators from his own party decided not to remove him from office.
You can say the same thing about the House that voted to impeach him. And the J6 committee. Neither were courts of laws but highly partisan bodies. And it must also be admitted many courts are becoming highly partisan bodies themselves too, which is also disappointing. You can't accuse a certain court like SCOTUS of being partisan without acknowledging other courts are also highly partisan in favor of the Democrats. Nonetheless, regarding the Colorado court and many of the posts on here, it is worth noting on that count that the criminal indictment of Donald Trump over January 6, filed in Washington DC in the summer, did not include an insurrection charge — focusing instead on his ‘conspiracy to defraud the United States’ over the 2020 election.
And yet the judge in Colorado determined he had engaged in insurrection.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:23
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
+1
+2
Hello friends. The Colorado court determined in November that Trump had engaged in insurrection. Perhaps you missed the ruling? Go back and read it.
District Judge Sarah B. Wallace found that Trump indeed had “engaged in insurrection” by inciting the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-2024-colorado-d16dd8f354eeaf450558378c65fd79a2#:~:text=The%20Colorado%20case%20is%20the,was%20a%20fairly%20technical%20one.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:20
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
It wasn’t a court of law. It was a vote by partisan politicians, not neutral judges, to remove or not remove him from office based on his conduct and actions in that office. The vote neither absolved him from being guilty of those actions nor made a definitive judicial statement about the nature of his actions, only that the majority of senators from his own party decided not to remove him from office.
You can say the same thing about the House that voted to impeach him. And the J6 committee. Neither were courts of laws but highly partisan bodies. And it must also be admitted many courts are becoming highly partisan bodies themselves too, which is also disappointing. You can't accuse a certain court like SCOTUS of being partisan without acknowledging other courts are also highly partisan in favor of the Democrats. Nonetheless, regarding the Colorado court and many of the posts on here, it is worth noting on that count that the criminal indictment of Donald Trump over January 6, filed in Washington DC in the summer, did not include an insurrection charge — focusing instead on his ‘conspiracy to defraud the United States’ over the 2020 election.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:19
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
I have eyes and ears. No one made stuff up. He did incite an insurrection. He did. Don't deny it.
Meanwhile, "Trump says maybe the us will have a president for life someday"
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-maybe-u-s-will-have-a-president-for-life-someday
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:16
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
It wasn’t a court of law. It was a vote by partisan politicians, not neutral judges, to remove or not remove him from office based on his conduct and actions in that office. The vote neither absolved him from being guilty of those actions nor made a definitive judicial statement about the nature of his actions, only that the majority of senators from his own party decided not to remove him from office.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:12
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
+1
+2
Anonymous
12/20/2023 08:01
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
Legislative branch =/= judicial branch
There was a trial a few months ago in Colorado.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 07:55
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
+1
I see the bots have entered the chat
Nah, just real people outside of the D.C. bubble and who reflect the views of the majority of the country.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 07:26
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again
Well, he'll get his day in court when it goes to the SC.
Anonymous
12/20/2023 07:22
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't just make stuff up to get someone you hate thrown off the ballot. He didn't incite an insurrection, hence he was never charged, nor was he convicted.
If you truly believe this, then you need to get news sources of information. The ones who lied to you about a stolen election, Seth rich and Vince foster are also lying to you about this.
From NPR, your favorite news source:
The U.S. Senate on Saturday acquitted former President Donald Trump on an impeachment charge of inciting an insurrection.
The acquittal comes more than a month after a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers were counting the electoral results that certified Trump's loss.
“Senate Acquits Trump In Impeachment Trial — Again”
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967098840/senate-acquits-trump-in-impeachment-trial-again