Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 14:16     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

I'm a Dem in Fairfax and seeing how the Dems in PWC have handled the data center issue is disappointing to say the least. I love hiking at Manassas Battlefield with my dogs and I go once a week if the weather cooperates with me. If you look at the park map there are so many areas that get overlooked and you can practically have the park to yourself.

Proposing to build massive ugly, soulless boxes that make tons of noise right next to that is so insane. I mean its straight out of the evil Republican playbook yet D's are the ones pushing it. It's so confusing to me. I don't blame people for turning to R's for the solution.

They are shooting themselves in the foot over a very stupid issue. They should of realized it's unpopular and looked for other ways to increase tax revenue. Don't run for these positions if you're not willing to take on challenges and get creative.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 14:08     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:I love how Rs are all anti-regulation/anti-environmental controls right up until it lands in their county.

Very clear example of NIMBY.


I love how Ds are all pro-regulation/pro-environmental controls until big corporations propose building data centers on environmentally sensitive land.

It's so funny how it is in Prince William currently, the Rs are against the corporations and land development while the Ds are pro land development, pro corporate, and for environmental destruction. The Sierra Club and many other left-leaning environmental groups came out against the proposal yet Prince William Ds insist on them. So weird.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 14:07     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.


Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.


That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.


suburban sprawl is messy like that
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 14:05     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.


Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.


That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 14:01     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

I love how Rs are all anti-regulation/anti-environmental controls right up until it lands in their county.

Very clear example of NIMBY.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 13:53     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?


If the county wanted to build a data center right behind your house would you be for it? If not, you're such a hypocrite. County governments funded schools, roads, etc. for decades before data centers were even a thing. Now all of the sudden we "deserve" to have data centers in our backyard because of the resources we use from the county.

NO. I pay taxes and own my home. If the local pols really want a new data center area they should eminent domain north Arlington or Vienna for it and build a massive data center complex.


Funny - I thought VA was business friendly.

You prefer to have big government to take expensive land at high costs to taxpayers?

Ultimately, you can't prevent landowners from selling. And industrial-zoned areas will get some kind of industry. Better to lay out the guidelines you want now and have some control.


The entire issue is that the land is not zoned commercial/industrial and located in an area with farms, golf courses, and horse farms. It's the equivalent of plopping a Data Center on some farm in Middleburg. I'm pro-business, not pro ugly and environmental destruction.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 13:14     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.


Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.


That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:54     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.


Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:50     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.


Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:47     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:39     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.


When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:35     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?


+1

Unless you bought in the 80s it's been pretty clear for a long time that there was a lot of development in the area. Love how PP is playing dumb now.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:31     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:Great Falls and McLean would be perfect for a data center area. River Bend County Club is a waste of space, they should bulldoze it and build a freeway to access it from Route 7. Progress people!!


I bet Trump will be willing to give up his course for the Republicans. He's so generous like that. Or maybe he'll need to sell it to pay for his crimes.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:30     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?


If the county wanted to build a data center right behind your house would you be for it? If not, you're such a hypocrite. County governments funded schools, roads, etc. for decades before data centers were even a thing. Now all of the sudden we "deserve" to have data centers in our backyard because of the resources we use from the county.

NO. I pay taxes and own my home. If the local pols really want a new data center area they should eminent domain north Arlington or Vienna for it and build a massive data center complex.


Funny - I thought VA was business friendly.

You prefer to have big government to take expensive land at high costs to taxpayers?

Ultimately, you can't prevent landowners from selling. And industrial-zoned areas will get some kind of industry. Better to lay out the guidelines you want now and have some control.
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Post 09/28/2023 12:24     Subject: NoVA 2023 Elections: Who are you/your neighbors voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.


You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.


While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.


Data centers are better options than other industrial uses and can bring in significant tax revenue (property tax on electronics).

A better move would be to establish strict guidelines via zoning.