Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 11:29     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I told my staff once who did not tip and bragged maybe we should skip his Christmas bonus as that is a tip. He was not happy


I don’t even believe you but if true you win the shittiest manager award. Congrats jerk!


I did say it. I find it disgusting professional people who demand raises, big holiday bonuses, great medical coverage, paid holidays, vacation and sick days but they’re maid, Nanny, waiter, waitress god forbid they earn a living wage or basic benefits


Loving wage isn't a real thing. What you do is set a wage and if no one works for it you raise it.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 11:26     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Well, wages are between employer, employee and government. They can't shift the responsibility on customers. This culture needs to end.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 11:24     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:As a standard option on checks on my recent travels. The default is 20% and low is 18%. Is this new?


Just because someone says so, doesn't mean you need to. You can give more if deserved or less if not.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 11:17     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 11:15     Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?


It's not hard, but it's stupid. People here are complaining about supposed "tip inflation," not tipping in general. The expected tip in the USA for a sit-down restaurant (assuming average service) would be 15% ($3). If we allow that to creep up to a higher percentage, when will that end? The best service in the world isn't worth 25%.


I am in UK these days and tips are standard 10-12.5%. Not sure when US went from 15 to 22%.


15 is terrible service, 20 average service and 22 good service.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 11:14     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I told my staff once who did not tip and bragged maybe we should skip his Christmas bonus as that is a tip. He was not happy


I don’t even believe you but if true you win the shittiest manager award. Congrats jerk!


I did say it. I find it disgusting professional people who demand raises, big holiday bonuses, great medical coverage, paid holidays, vacation and sick days but they’re maid, Nanny, waiter, waitress god forbid they earn a living wage or basic benefits
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 09:15     Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?


It's not hard, but it's stupid. People here are complaining about supposed "tip inflation," not tipping in general. The expected tip in the USA for a sit-down restaurant (assuming average service) would be 15% ($3). If we allow that to creep up to a higher percentage, when will that end? The best service in the world isn't worth 25%.


I am in UK these days and tips are standard 10-12.5%. Not sure when US went from 15 to 22%.


I’d didn’t. But it’s been 20% for at least a decade.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 08:16     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:yes, do zero for carryouts or fast food places. No need for tip inflation. There is nothing new servers are adding than a couple of years back to get extra tips. The food prices, restaurant bills have gone up so have their tip portion if you keep some 15-18% as before.


+1

This is the key point. Tips are based on a percentage, so keeping the same percentage as before with inflated menu prices means tips will still increase. No need to increase the tip percentage.

It's like people are just fine throwing away money for no reason!
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 04:43     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:A week ago I asked the barista to make me a cappuccino but he refused to do so as it was nearing closing time. I then picked up a cold coffee and handed the cash, which he refused because it was … almost closing time. So I paid with my card and did not tip him.
I got quite an attitude!!!


WTF
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 04:43     Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?


It's not hard, but it's stupid. People here are complaining about supposed "tip inflation," not tipping in general. The expected tip in the USA for a sit-down restaurant (assuming average service) would be 15% ($3). If we allow that to creep up to a higher percentage, when will that end? The best service in the world isn't worth 25%.


I am in UK these days and tips are standard 10-12.5%. Not sure when US went from 15 to 22%.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 04:40     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
yes, do zero for carryouts or fast food places. No need for tip inflation. There is nothing new servers are adding than a couple of years back to get extra tips. The food prices, restaurant bills have gone up so have their tip portion if you keep some 15-18% as before.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2023 14:53     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:I told my staff once who did not tip and bragged maybe we should skip his Christmas bonus as that is a tip. He was not happy


I don’t even believe you but if true you win the shittiest manager award. Congrats jerk!
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2023 14:42     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amazing. A bunch of rich white professional and allegedly liberal women who purport to care complaining about leaving a few extra pennies as a tip.

The hypocrisy of DCUM is over the top.


I agree. What a ridiculous thing to whine about. It takes a small cheap person to complain about adding a few dollars for the people who served you. Their excuses are laughable.

You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?


The big deal is that it’s my money, not yours. I want to keep it and spend it, save it, burn it. I want more money, just like you do. But you’re not entitled to my money for simply providing the service of scanning my kind bar and pouring a cup of drip coffee. Your beef is with your employer who’s business plan relies on you taking charity.


This. If I eat out 1-2 times a day time say 300, an extra $5 each time is minimum of $1500 and could be many thousands. For what? Standing there.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2023 14:34     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
I told my staff once who did not tip and bragged maybe we should skip his Christmas bonus as that is a tip. He was not happy
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2023 14:13     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Amazing. A bunch of rich white professional and allegedly liberal women who purport to care complaining about leaving a few extra pennies as a tip.

The hypocrisy of DCUM is over the top.


It's not hypocritical in the slightest. It's demanding that employers pay their people well and do their jobs. Why is the restaurant industry exempt from every basic business practice that the rest of the corporate world employs? I bet you demand that Amazon pay living wages. What would you say if Amazon required a 20% tip for all delivery people? You'd think that was crazy, right? Same thing. Stop being daft.


Oh, I see, you’re putting the squeeze on the workers to get at their employers. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.



I'm not putting the squeeze on anyone. I don't employ these people. The employers who refuse to pay living wages does. Why we insist that consumers pad their salaries because employers refuse to is beyond me. but sure, blame everyone but the employer.


The mature and generous and truly non-self-centered thing to do is lobby the people in charge to raise minimum wages. It’s not to refuse to tip the waiters. You’re making excuses to justify your own avarice.


Avarice? Ha, no. Just because you call it so doesn’t make it so. Other than saying you’re greedy or asking if people can afford to tip more, you have to answer WHY. If the answer is because you have less, then you’re coming to the wrong source for a few more dollars.