Anonymous
Post 06/17/2023 08:54     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

I think Parisa’s biggest enemy in this race are the supporters who have taken to the internet. I read a post on this thread coming after North Arlington specifically, and it really got under my skin. Enough to lodge a protest vote in favor of Katcher this morning. Both candidates have similar platforms, so with all else being equal, I’ll take the one whose camp isn’t out there disparaging my neighbors.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2023 07:02     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:Took my 17yo WL student and two of their friends today to vote for Katcher.


I rented a bus and drove 56 of my neighbors to the polls to vote for Parisa.


OP here. You’re just salty because Josh recognized an opportunity to win, and didn’t let his throwaway comments in November hold him back. It doesn’t matter on June 20 that in November Josh said he would have handled the case the same way. What matters is that Josh eventually recognized the fury that the kid wound up with a year, AND that the furious people largely didn’t recognize that the judge had rejected Parisa’s recommendation for the three year maximum for juveniles.

Josh recognized a hole you could drive a Mack truck through. Belatedly, but he recognized it. And the W-L parent dropping the classmates off to vote against Parisa shows that it worked. Boy did it work.

Yes, you could say Josh is misleading people here. So what? The scoreboard goes live after 7:00 PM. And if people think Parisa was weak and Josh would have gotten life in prison, who cares if those people do the right thing and vote for Josh?

Politics is war. What matters is that you win. Just line when you’re prosecuting. So go win so you can go prosecute. Parisa has to explain the nuances of juvenile criminal law in Virginia. Boo-hoo. Parisa has to worry about what ACPD will do on Election Day? Oh well. Parisa’s toast because she turned down opportunities to win, and we want to see people get locked up before they have a chance to come up here and harm us. We just have to wait until Tuesday at 7:00 PM to celebrate for real.


What a terribly cynical take. I wouldn’t start celebrating just yet. As much as you want Josh to win, I tend to think that in a D+50 places like Arlington and Falls Church City, it’s not a great strategy to run to the right of a Democratic incumbent. Guess we’ll find out soon!
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 22:52     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Took my 17yo WL student and two of their friends today to vote for Katcher.


I rented a bus and drove 56 of my neighbors to the polls to vote for Parisa.


OP here. You’re just salty because Josh recognized an opportunity to win, and didn’t let his throwaway comments in November hold him back. It doesn’t matter on June 20 that in November Josh said he would have handled the case the same way. What matters is that Josh eventually recognized the fury that the kid wound up with a year, AND that the furious people largely didn’t recognize that the judge had rejected Parisa’s recommendation for the three year maximum for juveniles.

Josh recognized a hole you could drive a Mack truck through. Belatedly, but he recognized it. And the W-L parent dropping the classmates off to vote against Parisa shows that it worked. Boy did it work.

Yes, you could say Josh is misleading people here. So what? The scoreboard goes live after 7:00 PM. And if people think Parisa was weak and Josh would have gotten life in prison, who cares if those people do the right thing and vote for Josh?

Politics is war. What matters is that you win. Just line when you’re prosecuting. So go win so you can go prosecute. Parisa has to explain the nuances of juvenile criminal law in Virginia. Boo-hoo. Parisa has to worry about what ACPD will do on Election Day? Oh well. Parisa’s toast because she turned down opportunities to win, and we want to see people get locked up before they have a chance to come up here and harm us. We just have to wait until Tuesday at 7:00 PM to celebrate for real.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 20:01     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:Took my 17yo WL student and two of their friends today to vote for Katcher.


I rented a bus and drove 56 of my neighbors to the polls to vote for Parisa.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 19:47     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Took my 17yo WL student and two of their friends today to vote for Katcher.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 19:34     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:Vote for Katcher if you like excuses to say the n-word.

https://medium.com/@arlingtoncriminaljustice/an-open-letter-to-the-arlington-county-falls-church-legal-community-and-democratic-primary-voters-942f39b71adb


Didn’t Parisa chastise him for the unnecessary use of the word? He was reading from a transcript, but it did not seem necessary AT ALL to use the actual word. Right after Parisa chided him, he quit and started to run against her. You know, using his campaign URL that he purchased in 2017. The more I find out about him, the less I like him.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 17:51     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

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Post 06/16/2023 14:58     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all this thread is so bad. Honestly can’t believe i live in this community where a grieving family is victimized by the family of a homophobic, drug addled kid. Mom of kid is about and about hobnobbing. Good job Dems of Arlington. Good job.


PP Mom of the perp hobnobbing, apologies if unclear


What the heck are you trying to say?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 22:18     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:Y’all this thread is so bad. Honestly can’t believe i live in this community where a grieving family is victimized by the family of a homophobic, drug addled kid. Mom of kid is about and about hobnobbing. Good job Dems of Arlington. Good job.


What is wrong with you, you freak?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 22:09     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all this thread is so bad. Honestly can’t believe i live in this community where a grieving family is victimized by the family of a homophobic, drug addled kid. Mom of kid is about and about hobnobbing. Good job Dems of Arlington. Good job.


PP Mom of the perp hobnobbing, apologies if unclear


I don’t think this second post cleared things up for me. No one is victimizing the grieving family. A lot of us are expressing disapproval for a candidate who seems to be exploiting a tragic situation (not exploiting the family who has voluntarily gotten involved in the race, as is their right). The candidate would not have done anything different in this case, except maybe being a little more friendly and sympathetic during a meeting with the Meade/Kehoe family. Yet that doesn’t stop the candidate from using this death as political fodder. I think a lot of posters have expressed sympathy for the family and their situation, but have taken a view that the attention to this case is just a bit too much compared to the focus on other victims in Arlington and Falls Church.

It is disingenuous for Josh Katcher to criticize Parisa for this case when he has admitted that, essentially, things would have been the same under his administration. It is disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 21:54     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:Y’all this thread is so bad. Honestly can’t believe i live in this community where a grieving family is victimized by the family of a homophobic, drug addled kid. Mom of kid is about and about hobnobbing. Good job Dems of Arlington. Good job.


PP Mom of the perp hobnobbing, apologies if unclear
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 21:51     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Y’all this thread is so bad. Honestly can’t believe i live in this community where a grieving family is victimized by the family of a homophobic, drug addled kid. Mom of kid is about and about hobnobbing. Good job Dems of Arlington. Good job.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 20:23     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:Whomever keeps appearing on these threads trying to convince us that a teen driving late at night and taking U-turns is just as bad as a driver who was driving twice the speed limit while intoxicated and killed someone in the process … you are literally the worst person on all of DCUM, and that’s a hard badge to earn. Quibble all you want about what makes a good prosecutor, but let’s be very clear about what type of conduct is morally reprehensible and what type of conduct is not.


I'm not going to go back and read all the posts, but suspect someone just pointed out that contributory negligence can be a (partial) defense in a trial, which is true in Virginia. I have a hard time imagining anyone would claim the two kids were equally at fault.


The U-turn would have been perfectly safe absent a car proceeding at twice the legal speed limit with an intoxicated driver behind the wheel. They can argue contributory negligence, but they’re wrong.


Unauthorized U-turns on a road with considerable traffic aren't consistent with the notion of ordinary care, so it very well may have been a valid argument to mitigate (not eliminate) liability and any damages. So as others have noted that fact probably has not been lost of relevant parties at various times. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with your efforts to politicize this tragic incident on behalf of Katcher, Kehoe, etc.


I’m entirely uninterested in the politics here. What doesn’t “sit well” with me are the posters who want to sanitize what happened by pointing to the victim’s U-turn as if that’s an equally important concern we should all be wrestling with. A drunk driver killed a kid. I repeat: a drunk driver killed a kid. It was his fault. He did it. If he hadn’t been drunk, this wouldn’t have happened. If he hadn’t been speeding like a maniac, this wouldn’t have happened. This was an unspeakable tragedy and probably would have presented difficult challenges for any prosecutor in Arlington, but don’t you dare tell me that I’m blinded by politics in my disgust. A mother lost her child to a speeding drunk driver. That is the only important fact here. I’m sorry if that doesn’t sit well with you.


You keep mischaracterizing people's comments when all posters are trying to do is point out why the victim's contributory negligence (or allegations thereof) may have factored into prosecutorial, sentencing, and personal decisions.

The drunk driver was also a kid, but you try to portray him as an adult (which he wasn't) and a monster (which he isn't). I repeat: he was also a kid, who made some very bad decisions that took one life and likely will shape his entire life. What you never acknowledge was that the person he most stood to put at risk through his reckless behavior was himself, but that never registers with you, so you continue to embarrass yourself with your mischaracterizations, your visceral hatred, and your rancor.

You should get therapy. And thank God this wretched primary will be over in less than a week.


I wonder if Parisa spoke down to Braylon’s mother like this, mocking her anger and grief and lecturing her about how she should be more understanding of the drunk driver who killed her son. More concerned about how the drunk driver was risking his own life. Telling her to take a time out from the conversation or seek therapy because she was too emotional to understand the criminal Justice system. I’m starting to understand what drove her to speak out.


You are disconnected from reality. DP.

Parisa handled the case appropriately.

Using the mom’s grief as political fodder is disgusting.


Even if the case was handled appropriately, something was clearly lacking in her treatment of the victim’s family or we wouldn’t be having this discussion.


Which has zero to do with this election.



That’s where we disagree, but maybe it’s that attitude that leads to sidelining the voices of victims. The way an elected prosecutor treats a victim’s family when acting in her capacity as prosecutor is directly relevant to whether our community wants her to continue in that role.


I disagree with you, too. It’s not the CA’s job to hold a victim’s hand or the hands of a family’s victim. Yes, of course, the CA (really the CA’s line personnel handling the case) should be courteous and respectful. But being warm and fuzzy enough is not necessarily part of the job. At the end of the day, people are most pissed at the result - not a strong enough punishment - and that is a larger issue with the system, not just Parisa.

In terms of the criticisms that Parisa gets for not attending sentencing or not handling the case herself, that’s what a manager does. They let their staff handle their cases, whether big or small. Parisa doesn’t seem to handle any sentencing hearings because the line prosecutors appropriately do so. So why has this become an issue in Braylon’s case? While the situation was tragic, what is so special about his case that he merits different treatment than other victims in Arlington and Falls Church? In general, I haven’t heard these complaints until an affluent white kid died and now North Arlington is up in arms because Parisa wasn’t nice enough or didn’t care enough.


So now you’re writing the victim off as an “affluent white kid”? The reason you’re seeing North Arlingtonians upset isn’t because he was “an affluent white kid.” It’s because he was our neighbor, our classmate, our teammate. You’re looking at this from a policy viewpoint, but we’re experiencing this from a very personal perspective, even if you think we should let it go. You’re trying to have a political fight with a grieving community and it’s pointless.This was probably the highest profile case Parisa was dealing with, and she didn’t have the political savvy to even show up to the sentencing hearing? Doesn’t matter if it’s common to delegate to case managers - there are times when you need to show your face and take ownership of the choices that were made. In politics, appearances matter. No matter how many posters come on her saying the case is not relevant, the fact that it is a decisive factor for many voters in the county proves otherwise.


You’re kind of making my point. If Parisa doesn’t attend any sentencing hearings, why should she have attended Braylon’s and no one else’s? Because it’s personal to YOU? What about other victims of crimes, for whom sentencing day is immensely personal? I’m not happy about the disposition of this case, as I feel the penalty was too light. But my vote is about more than one case. It’s about a senior official in a DA’s office standing firm in her beliefs and policies even in the face of enormous political pressure. That’s actually who I want in the CA’s seat because otherwise emotions can lead to really bad outcomes in the law.

I understand this is personal to you. My children also attend the same school as Braylon did. But I hope that, in your outrage about Parisa not attending the sentencing, you are equally outraged that she doesn’t attend anyone else’s sentencing. Braylon was a good kid. He deserved to live. But his life and his case do not deserve an outsized level of attention and support than other crimes where the victims are good and don’t deserve what they get.

I know it sounds callous, but emotions are not the right way to make or enforce policy.


This is exactly what bothers me about the ads. He did community service so therefore the perpetrator should face a harsher sentence? Or the family gets extra attention?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 19:23     Subject: Re:Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

If you don’t like the way a public official performs her job, it’s your right to speak up and campaign against her. That’s how elections work. I’m not sure why there’s so much outrage at the idea that a victim’s family would campaign against a public servant they felt had failed them. This seems very predictable and just the way politics work.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 18:34     Subject: Josh Katcher just became Commonwealth’s Attorney in Arlington

Katcher seems so slimy for the way he politicized Braylon's death even though he would have handled the case the same.

Regardless, because our criminal justice system failed Braylon's family (though not because of anything Parisa did), I hope they seek justice through the civil system. Even if they don't need the money, they could use it toward some sort of foundation or scholarship in their son's memory.