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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

Read it again, says all transfers have to take SIX IB courses minimum not 3

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

But if your kid wants to take IB classes, they can try to lottery in. There might be a waitlist for freshman, but I think it's easier if you try as a sophomore. Can you try again as a Junior?
Its already been established you only need to take 3 IB classes to stay in the program.

Exactly they can TRY to lottery in. There is a waitlist for freshmen. And I didn't hear that you only need to take 3 IB classes, where does it say that? That was not the policy when my kid applied, if you didn't take full IB, you had to leave. If it changed can you please post?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

But if your kid wants to take IB classes, they can try to lottery in. There might be a waitlist for freshman, but I think it's easier if you try as a sophomore. Can you try again as a Junior?
Its already been established you only need to take 3 IB classes to stay in the program.

Exactly they can TRY to lottery in. There is a waitlist for freshmen. And I didn't hear that you only need to take 3 IB classes, where does it say that? That was not the policy when my kid applied, if you didn't take full IB, you had to leave. If it changed can you please post?

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I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

But if your kid wants to take IB classes, they can try to lottery in. There might be a waitlist for freshman, but I think it's easier if you try as a sophomore. Can you try again as a Junior?
Its already been established you only need to take 3 IB classes to stay in the program.

Exactly they can TRY to lottery in. There is a waitlist for freshmen. And I didn't hear that you only need to take 3 IB classes, where does it say that? That was not the policy when my kid applied, if you didn't take full IB, you had to leave. If it changed can you please post?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

But if your kid wants to take IB classes, they can try to lottery in. There might be a waitlist for freshman, but I think it's easier if you try as a sophomore. Can you try again as a Junior?
Its already been established you only need to take 3 IB classes to stay in the program.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

This is not true and I don't know why people keep posting this other than to stir the pot.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

Sure but the point is that only kids in the WL zone can access this mixing in without the full IB diploma. That's the problematic part. Obviously this is a benefit, you said so yourself. So why is it fair that only WL zoned kids get this, and not kids at YHS or WHS?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

I don't agree it should be a separate program only for full diploma student. That just feeds elitism and exclusion to have a school within a school. It's good to have kids be able to mix in certain IB classes that interest them even if they don't want to do the full diploma.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

DP. I agree with all of this. And my kids don't go to YHS either.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.

Yes. I’d like their explanation too.

Somewhat facetiously, I wonder if the poster who is agitated about IB splurged on a 4.5 mil dollar house in the Yorktown district instead of a lowly 2.5 mill dollar house in a W-L zoned neighborhood. With the lower quality custom builds, it’s just unfathomable that W-L could have decent academic stats that come close to Yorktown’s.

But I do sense the poster is the one who often complains about how Yorktown should have much better academic scores and college stats and that W-L is to blame.

I'm assuming I'm the poster you're labeling as "anti-IB." So, to keep you from staying awake at night wondering: no, I have not spent $4.5m on a house in the YHS zone. I have not even spent $2.5m to be in the WL zone. I've been in Arlington long enough to have not had to spend that much on any house. Why do DCUM people think Yorktown and WL are the only high schools in Arlington, anyway? My kids could be at any school, including HBW or AT or WHS for all you know. I'm guessing, though, that if I say I am Wakefield, you'll have an "aha" reaction and determine that I'm just a bitter and resentful southie who couldn't afford a better school zone, and my criticism of IB at WL will suddenly all make sense to you? Because clearly nobody could have a genuine negative opinion about an APS policy and especially involving WL without resentment being the reason for the negative opinion?

Furthermore, I am not anti-IB. I am anti-non-IB-students having the ability to pick and choose to the extent they "need" and desire to take the IB courses they want when other non-IB students at both Yorktown and Wakefield do not have those extra opportunities MERELY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. I don't think HBW or AT students have to have the same access because they have already chosen specific option programs and in so doing, you give up some things. Nevertheless, APS could run these classes like they do CTE classes and let non-full-IB students from any of the high schools take an IB class at WL. Or, they could actually develop a significant independent IB program filled with full-time IB students who actually earn IB diplomas and put it in any school they want. As it is, is the financial investment in the current IB program worth the # of diplomas it issues? As I've said, I don't really care WHERE they put it. I just think if they're going to spend the money and invest in it, it should be treated like other option programs such as HBW and AT and Spanish immersion. Nobody gets to "dabble" in those programs.

Additionally, I don't give a crap about YHS or WL's stats or whose are better or should be better. This thing between WL and YHS is just a stupid cherry on top of the disparaging and dismissive attitudes toward Wakefield and south Arlington in general that pervade all DCUM posts.

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear, the IB Program is a 2 year program at W-L and also across the world. W-L is not implementing its IB program any differently than any other high school.
It seems some posters are misinformed and spreading false information.

https://www.ibo.org/programmes/
IB is intended to be a continual program. Schools in other countries are not set-up the way they are in the US and therefore the APS "years groupings" do not align with the intended design of the IB curriculum.

I think this is a stretch. IB offers a continuous curriculum, but it certainly doesn't require it. The intended outcome of an IB Diploma still has the same weight, whether you are coming from a IB Diploma program or full IB continuous curriculum.

Not a stretch. The statement was APS doesn't implement it any differently than anywhere else, and that's not true.

I mean, who cares??

Look, are there really that many YHS or WHS students who want to disrupt their schedules to travel back and for to WL for just 1-2 IB courses? That's what is being argued about, and I really think it's such a tiny number of students who would be interested in that.

That's one of the points: if there aren't enough students interested in full-IB, perhaps APS shouldn't be expending the costs for the program. Otherwise, grow the program to justify the costs.

But there are plenty of kids who want to do IB, either full diploma or the minimum 3 courses, and that allows for the operation of a full program. So what's being argued about is just a few at YHS or WHS who only want to do 1-2 IB classes but not 3 or more. It's just not enough to make this into a big deal. It's fine the way it is.

Actually, if you read the chain, that's not what's being argued. But since you're fine with the way WL students can pick and choose and others can't, it's not an issue for anyone else to have.