Anonymous wrote:So was Gerry really fired or not?

I mean it's up the air, right? She was technically fired but the only people who know that (or will admit they know it) are Roman, Tom, and Kerry. It's very clear Frank and Carl are moving to support her (I loved when one of they jumped in with "I think it's important for the markets that Frank, Carl, and Gerry be mentioned in the official statements" -- yes, *for the markets*). roman didn't want to fire her anyway and Tom is going to be 100% self-interested here. Kerry is the wildcard and I could definitely see her throwing wrenches in all kinds of things actually.

I thought it was interesting when Roman was clearly looking for that maternal/protective thing from Gerry towards the end of the episode and she just walks away because she was still mad at him for firing her. It was sad because roman seemed like a little kid in this episode, but also I don't really blame Gerry.

did tom leak to the press?

My DH kept saying "I don't think he's really dead" and I was like "no they definitely killed him" and we had this conversation for about 40 minutes until they wheeled him out on the gurney. It was kind of funny given that Roman also kept saying he didn't believe he was dead.

Oh, sorry -- spoilers (just watch the freaking episode, why are you on a Succession thread on Sunday night right after the show airs if you don't want spoilers???)

This episode really highlighted the show's particular strengths where they are always catching the reactions and facial expressions of secondary and tertiary characters as a way of framing the story. I loved all the shots of Frank, Carl, and Gerri in various scenes as they reacted to the kids reacting to their dad dying.

Also really liked the way Kendall really stepped up and into his role as eldest brother (I know Connor is technically eldest but I mean of the trio) once they finally got the news Logan was dead -- being the one to tell Shiv and also stepping up to tell Connor, being the one to convince the other two that they needed to be thoughtful about their actions because of the scrutiny they'd get later, and finally leading the others to agree that they needed to draft the official statement and also be the face of the messaging.

You could sort of see Kendall maturing into the role over the course of the episode, and I actually found that pretty realistic. Very normal in moments like that for people to refer to childhood sibling dynamics, and Roman acting/feeling helpless and unable to process any of it (also feeling guilty/blaming himself), Shiv being the most openly grieving their dad as the one who probably hated him the least and had the most warm relationship with him, and Kendall stepping into a kind of big brother/paternal role and being ready to think long term more quickly, while also offering emotional support to younger siblings. It just rang very true for me.

Also LOVED when Shiv snapped at/made fun of Tom on the speaker phone with everyone, and then apologized, and then Tom immediately said it was okay, it was a tough day. And Shiv's surprise and then kind of tenderness toward him when he said that. Just really amazing moment from Sarah Snook and a very subtle but great way to show how Logan's death is/will impact their marriage and possibly change the course of their divorce. As someone else said upthread, Tom really does love Shiv and she has a genuine soft spot for him and I could easily see her leaning on him in this time and him rising to the occasion because all he ever wants is for her to need him instead of the other way around.

Anonymous wrote:I heart Connor. The cake story was so sad.

He was the only one I felt sorry for. All Logan did was ignore, belittle and manipulate his kids. I don't buy there would have been an ounce of affection or grief after everything he put them through.

So was Gerry really fired or not?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to retitle this saying: “Spoilers inside!”

Eh I think you don’t click on a thread if you’re not caught up. Speaking of spoilers, I am amazed this didn’t leak!

Agree!!!!

Holt crap!

I thought it dragged a little tbh.

Also, and this really bothered me: giant corporations don’t have to all of a sudden draft a statement when their old CEO dies. You don’t think Fox News has a very clear plan for what happens if Rupert Murdoch dies in a bathroom? Of course they do! The idea that anyone would be scrambling or improvising made no sense.

The scene with Kerry was the best scene. Both on the plane and getting into the car.

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to retitle this saying: “Spoilers inside!”

Eh I think you don’t click on a thread if you’re not caught up. Speaking of spoilers, I am amazed this didn’t leak!

I’m in shock still, that whole episode was incredible acting and I felt like I was a part of the family. Shiv’s acting and saying “daddy” when she heard as well as how she softened when she asked Tom if he was coreographing with her dead dad, and then apologized and he said it was ok was all very well done. I do wonder if this is what gets shiv and Tom back together.

Someone needs to retitle this saying: “Spoilers inside!”

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Anonymous wrote:Emmy awards all around.

The acting. Wow,

Seriously. That was fantastic.

I’d love to see Marcia come back and give Kerry the heave-ho.

When Roman walked over to the plane, I thought he was going to try to snag Logan’s phone, so he could delete that angry voicemail he left earlier.

Anonymous wrote:Emmy awards all around.

The acting. Wow,

I heart Connor. The cake story was so sad.