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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t public shaming of the adult also subject their kid(s) to ridicule?

Parents who use their kids as shields to not be publicly named, SHOULD be shamed.

I think the problem here, if we’re to agree with some of the inferences made, is that identifying the parents is tantamount to identifying the children involved in a case of inappropriate touching, and presumably one of those children is a victim. It’s not even remotely in that child’s interest to have his or her identity publicly known and protecting that privacy is more important than naming the parent who got in a scuffle at the promotion ceremony.

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t public shaming of the adult also subject their kid(s) to ridicule?

Parents who use their kids as shields to not be publicly named, SHOULD be shamed.

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t public shaming of the adult also subject their kid(s) to ridicule?

So we shouldn’t call out adults by their names due to the harm it may cause their children? Seems like they should have considered the consequences before fighting at the local elementary school.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

I am the other commenter.

If you’re an oakridge parent, just ask around. People are piecing things together. If you’re not an oakridge parent (and this is why I wrote that comment), I don’t want people who aren’t involved going on a crusade and publicly shaming others on behalf of my child. Yes it was awful but that’s not what the kids need and I don’t think it will do any good.

I’m so sorry, PP. These poor 5th graders do not deserve this as their memory of their final year of elementary school.

Is there anything the wider community can do (or lobby for) to make things better going forward?

Thank you for saying that. I am touched.

As for what others can do, I don't know. I don't think APS is doing a good job keeping kids safe. It seems like part of the answer is finding a much better way to address behavior problems, which parents have been advocating for for a long time and APS doesn't seem particularly motivated to change things.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by addressing behavioral issues and keeping kids safe??

Wouldn’t public shaming of the adult also subject their kid(s) to ridicule?

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the PP means that there is a connection between behavioral issues at school that simmered unaddressed, until they exploded at promotion. I am not saying that’s the case here — I am saying there can be a connection.

That does not excuse that parent’s behavior, of course.

We’re talking about adults here, not children. Public shaming is okay. It may deter others from behaving this way in the future, benefitting all of us.

Maybe the PP means that there is a connection between behavioral issues at school that simmered unaddressed, until they exploded at promotion. I am not saying that’s the case here — I am saying there can be a connection.

That does not excuse that parent’s behavior, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

I am the other commenter.

If you’re an oakridge parent, just ask around. People are piecing things together. If you’re not an oakridge parent (and this is why I wrote that comment), I don’t want people who aren’t involved going on a crusade and publicly shaming others on behalf of my child. Yes it was awful but that’s not what the kids need and I don’t think it will do any good.

I’m so sorry, PP. These poor 5th graders do not deserve this as their memory of their final year of elementary school.

Is there anything the wider community can do (or lobby for) to make things better going forward?

Thank you for saying that. I am touched.

As for what others can do, I don't know. I don't think APS is doing a good job keeping kids safe. It seems like part of the answer is finding a much better way to address behavior problems, which parents have been advocating for for a long time and APS doesn't seem particularly motivated to change things.

Wait a minute. Are you suggesting that it is APS’s job to address bad parents’ behavior?? The fight was between parents. How is a school supposed to control that?!

Yep- Now the PP is talking out both sides of their mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

I am the other commenter.

If you’re an oakridge parent, just ask around. People are piecing things together. If you’re not an oakridge parent (and this is why I wrote that comment), I don’t want people who aren’t involved going on a crusade and publicly shaming others on behalf of my child. Yes it was awful but that’s not what the kids need and I don’t think it will do any good.

I’m so sorry, PP. These poor 5th graders do not deserve this as their memory of their final year of elementary school.

Is there anything the wider community can do (or lobby for) to make things better going forward?

Thank you for saying that. I am touched.

As for what others can do, I don't know. I don't think APS is doing a good job keeping kids safe. It seems like part of the answer is finding a much better way to address behavior problems, which parents have been advocating for for a long time and APS doesn't seem particularly motivated to change things.

Wait a minute. Are you suggesting that it is APS’s job to address bad parents’ behavior?? The fight was between parents. How is a school supposed to control that?!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

I am the other commenter.

If you’re an oakridge parent, just ask around. People are piecing things together. If you’re not an oakridge parent (and this is why I wrote that comment), I don’t want people who aren’t involved going on a crusade and publicly shaming others on behalf of my child. Yes it was awful but that’s not what the kids need and I don’t think it will do any good.

I’m so sorry, PP. These poor 5th graders do not deserve this as their memory of their final year of elementary school.

Is there anything the wider community can do (or lobby for) to make things better going forward?

Thank you for saying that. I am touched.

As for what others can do, I don't know. I don't think APS is doing a good job keeping kids safe. It seems like part of the answer is finding a much better way to address behavior problems, which parents have been advocating for for a long time and APS doesn't seem particularly motivated to change things.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

I am the other commenter.

If you’re an oakridge parent, just ask around. People are piecing things together. If you’re not an oakridge parent (and this is why I wrote that comment), I don’t want people who aren’t involved going on a crusade and publicly shaming others on behalf of my child. Yes it was awful but that’s not what the kids need and I don’t think it will do any good.

I’m so sorry, PP. These poor 5th graders do not deserve this as their memory of their final year of elementary school.

Is there anything the wider community can do (or lobby for) to make things better going forward?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

I am the other commenter.

If you’re an oakridge parent, just ask around. People are piecing things together. If you’re not an oakridge parent (and this is why I wrote that comment), I don’t want people who aren’t involved going on a crusade and publicly shaming others on behalf of my child. Yes it was awful but that’s not what the kids need and I don’t think it will do any good.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.

Huh? The quoted PP said that. “I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation”. I too, was wondering why they expected to be happening at a School level, or if there was something to school did that made it worse?

Anonymous wrote:Someone said this on the locked thread, and I have a question….

It was awful, but there is a backstory and I'm actually more interested in accountability for the way the school handled what led to the situation. I'd like that much more than public shaming those involved. I'm so disappointed with the school and I can't wait to be done with it. Also let's hear it for the elementary school teachers who broke up a fight! Sheesh, I bet that wasn't on their 2023 bingo card.

What did the school do wrong?

The fact that you think something as significant as the alleged backstory is handled at the school level shows how little you actually know.