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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

Fine. They don't want to attract obstetrics medical professionals. Oh well.

Is their plan that all the teeming masses just age out without reproducing? This doesn’t seem like an oh-well, even for them.

Anonymous wrote:what is the current situation in KS?

Kansas voters overwhelmingly voted in August to protect abortion rights, rejecting a ballot measure in a conservative state with deep ties to the anti-abortion movement that would have allowed the Republican-controlled Legislature to tighten restrictions or ban the procedure outright.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/kansas-voters-resoundingly-defend-their-access-to-abortion

Kansas’ highest court signaled last week that it still considers access to abortion a “fundamental” right under the state constitution, as an attorney for the state argued that a decisive statewide vote last year affirming abortion rights “doesn’t matter.”
https://apnews.com/article/abortion-restrictions-lawsuits-kansas-3eb09cbcdfb18e06aee024e557f9814c

The Kansas Legislature passed its first abortion-related bill since the Aug. 2 Value Them Both vote
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/government/2023/04/04/kansas-legislature-passes-first-abortion-bill-since-value-them-both/70080119007/

what is the current situation in KS?

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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

The Tennessee Republicans are expelling three Democratic lawmakers for supporting the gun control protests.

The Texas legislature is poised to make it possible for the GOP to overturn any election outcomes they don’t like in blue states.

Wisconsin has been so gerrymandered, among other choice GOP cheats, that despite Democrats winning about 50% of the vote in the state, they only have 35% of the seats in the houses.

Kansans voted OVERWHELMINGLY to return some abortion rights; the GOP overruled them.

Shut your stupidly uniformed mouth as to “what people want.” The people have spoken and the GOP just keep doing what they want.

(Oh and the other PP is right in implying that you’re unable to read for content. The forced birthers are going to be stripped of intelligent and educated people.)

Exactly

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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

Fine. They don't want to attract obstetrics medical professionals. Oh well.

They DGAF about women. Dying in childbirth probably gets you some religious bonus points.

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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

The Tennessee Republicans are expelling three Democratic lawmakers for supporting the gun control protests.

The Texas legislature is poised to make it possible for the GOP to overturn any election outcomes they don’t like in blue states.

Wisconsin has been so gerrymandered, among other choice GOP cheats, that despite Democrats winning about 50% of the vote in the state, they only have 35% of the seats in the houses.

Kansans voted OVERWHELMINGLY to return some abortion rights; the GOP overruled them.

Shut your stupidly uniformed mouth as to “what people want.” The people have spoken and the GOP just keep doing what they want.

(Oh and the other PP is right in implying that you’re unable to read for content. The forced birthers are going to be stripped of intelligent and educated people.)

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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

Fine. They don't want to attract obstetrics medical professionals. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

DP. She's not talking about wastelands without random people. She's talking about wastelands with respect to skilled and trained medical care professionals.

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Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

You don’t get it. Laws like this are what people in those states want. And those states are bursting at the seams.

Anonymous wrote:PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

The forced birth states are going to become wastelands so quickly.

PS: And if your license in one state is still valid, a lot of the requirements are often waived. This is incentive for doctors to leave now, while their active state licenses are still valid and not in jeopardy over any incidents that might come up under these laws.

If they leave now, it is extremely easy to get licensed elsewhere. If they wait, it may become much more difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were an OB I wouldn't want to practice in a backwards-аss state like Idaho. Remember republicans are not pro-life. They are anti-women.

+1 Can anyone share how easy or hard it is for an MD to get licensed in a different state?

It's not. It's a hassle, but it isn't hard. You have to prove the important paperwork (degrees, licensure, explanation for any problems with licensure previously) and have recommendations as well as documentation for any procedures you want hospital privileges for. Basically if you prove you are a competent, appropriately licensed doc, you can get a license in any state.

The two big hurdles are the paperwork and some pretty esoteric state-to-state differences in regulation (e.g., some states would accept passing USMLE Step I and III up to a total of 10 years apart, some would accept only up to 7). But there is a lot of this information kept online now. Specialty boards will retain copies of past documentation that has been vetted, so if you are a board-certified OB, you don't have to start from scratch ever time to gather transcripts from 20 years ago, etc. And as for the latter, state boards are moving much more towards standardized requirements overall.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remember if I read it here or elsewhere, but Mississippi has a number of hospital systems that are closing delivery departments. It does not look good the way things are going.

Yes, Singing River Gulfport closed theirs 4/1. They say they hope it will be temporary but we shall see. There are 4 or 5 others who have ceased operations in the state.

Ochsner stopped delivering in July 2022 after the only obstetrician they had on staff left, and Greenwood Leflore closed its L&D in October 2022. DRMC, which is located in a very, very impoverished area, closed its NICU, too. Any babies needing critical treatment have to be taken about 2 hours away to the University of Mississippi hospital center.

It's insane because Mississippi has the highest fetal mortality rate AND highest infant mortality rate in the entire nation!

So so sad.

Why do Republicans hate women so much? I don't get it.

Their misogyny is rooted in their superstitions. Literally, they literally believe a Bronze Age document that women are the cause of humanity’s downfall. Plus they enjoy being served by women, as so many conservative religious women happily do. They can get more women to serve them if they make enough of them powerless and miserable. Hence: hating women and punishing them.

Respectfully disagree. The people in power aren’t religious and their misogyny isn’t biblical.

Republicans hate women because women don’t vote for Republicans the way men do. Even taking out abortion, on issues like school funding and public safety nets, women voted more for Democrats than men did.

So, if you want to make it harder for women to vote, it’s better that they be poor, have children (and therefore childcare) which make it hard to reach polling places, be consumed with mundane issues men spend zero time on (will I be able to access basic healthcare in an emergency) and yeah, in a pinch, a dead woman is more likely to be a Democratic voter than a Republican one so if some extra women die that’s all better for their numbers.

Saying this is about their religion gives them a pass I don’t think they deserve. They want women dead, or poor, or struggling, because women are a threat to their power. Period.

It is their religion, in their own words. It’s not a pass; in fact it makes it even worse that we’re being held hostage to the superstitions of a few people who spent decades amassing power, rearranging things to suit themselves and propagandizing. But it is absolutely is based in these people’s beliefs.

You cannot honestly believe that when masses of people who profess the same religions completely disagree with them.

I can because my extended family are those people and I am the religious people who completely disagree with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remember if I read it here or elsewhere, but Mississippi has a number of hospital systems that are closing delivery departments. It does not look good the way things are going.

Yes, Singing River Gulfport closed theirs 4/1. They say they hope it will be temporary but we shall see. There are 4 or 5 others who have ceased operations in the state.

Ochsner stopped delivering in July 2022 after the only obstetrician they had on staff left, and Greenwood Leflore closed its L&D in October 2022. DRMC, which is located in a very, very impoverished area, closed its NICU, too. Any babies needing critical treatment have to be taken about 2 hours away to the University of Mississippi hospital center.

It's insane because Mississippi has the highest fetal mortality rate AND highest infant mortality rate in the entire nation!

So so sad.

Why do Republicans hate women so much? I don't get it.

Their misogyny is rooted in their superstitions. Literally, they literally believe a Bronze Age document that women are the cause of humanity’s downfall. Plus they enjoy being served by women, as so many conservative religious women happily do. They can get more women to serve them if they make enough of them powerless and miserable. Hence: hating women and punishing them.

Respectfully disagree. The people in power aren’t religious and their misogyny isn’t biblical.

Republicans hate women because women don’t vote for Republicans the way men do. Even taking out abortion, on issues like school funding and public safety nets, women voted more for Democrats than men did.

So, if you want to make it harder for women to vote, it’s better that they be poor, have children (and therefore childcare) which make it hard to reach polling places, be consumed with mundane issues men spend zero time on (will I be able to access basic healthcare in an emergency) and yeah, in a pinch, a dead woman is more likely to be a Democratic voter than a Republican one so if some extra women die that’s all better for their numbers.

Saying this is about their religion gives them a pass I don’t think they deserve. They want women dead, or poor, or struggling, because women are a threat to their power. Period.

It is their religion, in their own words. It’s not a pass; in fact it makes it even worse that we’re being held hostage to the superstitions of a few people who spent decades amassing power, rearranging things to suit themselves and propagandizing. But it is absolutely is based in these people’s beliefs.

So here’s a link to stories of people of the same religion actively helping women access safe abortion care:

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/529175737/50-years-ago-a-network-of-clergy-helped-women-seeking-abortion

Rabid anti-abortion sentiment was seen as weird and Catholic. A minister went in front of the Illinois legislature advocating for safe and legal abortion. He was not a fringe minister.

I’m not saying no one who opposes abortion does so on religious grounds. Just that the lawmakers— the people
Actively disenfranchising women— are not doing so out of religious conviction, they’re doing so out of an attempt to keep women powerless.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remember if I read it here or elsewhere, but Mississippi has a number of hospital systems that are closing delivery departments. It does not look good the way things are going.

Yes, Singing River Gulfport closed theirs 4/1. They say they hope it will be temporary but we shall see. There are 4 or 5 others who have ceased operations in the state.

Ochsner stopped delivering in July 2022 after the only obstetrician they had on staff left, and Greenwood Leflore closed its L&D in October 2022. DRMC, which is located in a very, very impoverished area, closed its NICU, too. Any babies needing critical treatment have to be taken about 2 hours away to the University of Mississippi hospital center.

It's insane because Mississippi has the highest fetal mortality rate AND highest infant mortality rate in the entire nation!

So so sad.

Why do Republicans hate women so much? I don't get it.

Their misogyny is rooted in their superstitions. Literally, they literally believe a Bronze Age document that women are the cause of humanity’s downfall. Plus they enjoy being served by women, as so many conservative religious women happily do. They can get more women to serve them if they make enough of them powerless and miserable. Hence: hating women and punishing them.

Respectfully disagree. The people in power aren’t religious and their misogyny isn’t biblical.

Republicans hate women because women don’t vote for Republicans the way men do. Even taking out abortion, on issues like school funding and public safety nets, women voted more for Democrats than men did.

So, if you want to make it harder for women to vote, it’s better that they be poor, have children (and therefore childcare) which make it hard to reach polling places, be consumed with mundane issues men spend zero time on (will I be able to access basic healthcare in an emergency) and yeah, in a pinch, a dead woman is more likely to be a Democratic voter than a Republican one so if some extra women die that’s all better for their numbers.

Saying this is about their religion gives them a pass I don’t think they deserve. They want women dead, or poor, or struggling, because women are a threat to their power. Period.

It is their religion, in their own words. It’s not a pass; in fact it makes it even worse that we’re being held hostage to the superstitions of a few people who spent decades amassing power, rearranging things to suit themselves and propagandizing. But it is absolutely is based in these people’s beliefs.

You cannot honestly believe that when masses of people who profess the same religions completely disagree with them.