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Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

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There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

Boy mom here, same problem. I beg him constantly and the most I have accomplished is dishes in the washer if I give him daily reminders and tell him to do it. I stopped cleaning his room and now it is a pigsty.

?? I have multiple boys, and I don't have this problem at all. First, I'm not "begging" him to do anything. The dishes go in the washer, and that's that. Same with the room. The rule is that it has to be cleaned. Pigsty isn't an option.

+100. My Indian grandmother raised 8 boys and 2 girls in a tiny village house. My dad and his 7 brothers all learned how to cook, clean, do laundry, as well as get the great grades, etc that allowed them to emigrate to wherever they wanted. This idea that boys can't be taught how to do domestic chores and take responsibility for household work is a bunch of nonsense.

It is lazy parenting. I see it all the time. I have friends who throw their hands up and say, "they just don't list to me" when mom never actually tries. She'll tell her kids to do something but then if they don't listen after the 2nd time, walk away. It's the weirdest thing to me. She'll ask her kids to put away the phone but when they don't she'll just say, oh well. Dude, you take the phone from them, lock it away, stand them up, and tell them that they have to do chores. Parents are just so lazy.

Believe me it’s not. I even had a safe to lock down his cell phone it didn’t help beside causing the worst tantrums with police being called home over limiting access to electronics

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Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

I think it would be kinder to hope your son doesn’t have a future wife to burden, don’t you?

I will try to be a very appreciative and involved grandmother if I am lucky to get grand kids. I always tell myself how grateful I would be to any girl who would give him a family experience.

But think about this for a second. You want a girl to give your son “a family experience” knowing that means she is going to be responsible for doing way more of the work of the household while you’re son takes advantage of her. Are you going to support your son financially as an adult? Because what you’re describing is a heartless thing to wish on someone else’s daughter.

I would definitely help his family financially (house down, education for grandkids, take grand kids for the weekend so she could rest). I think boys fail when they watch dominant fathers not do anything around the house. It’s not just the moms who fail to grow up men.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

Boy mom here, same problem. I beg him constantly and the most I have accomplished is dishes in the washer if I give him daily reminders and tell him to do it. I stopped cleaning his room and now it is a pigsty.

?? I have multiple boys, and I don't have this problem at all. First, I'm not "begging" him to do anything. The dishes go in the washer, and that's that. Same with the room. The rule is that it has to be cleaned. Pigsty isn't an option.

+100. My Indian grandmother raised 8 boys and 2 girls in a tiny village house. My dad and his 7 brothers all learned how to cook, clean, do laundry, as well as get the great grades, etc that allowed them to emigrate to wherever they wanted. This idea that boys can't be taught how to do domestic chores and take responsibility for household work is a bunch of nonsense.

It is lazy parenting. I see it all the time. I have friends who throw their hands up and say, "they just don't list to me" when mom never actually tries. She'll tell her kids to do something but then if they don't listen after the 2nd time, walk away. It's the weirdest thing to me. She'll ask her kids to put away the phone but when they don't she'll just say, oh well. Dude, you take the phone from them, lock it away, stand them up, and tell them that they have to do chores. Parents are just so lazy.

Anonymous wrote:Haven't read anything but the thread title. Eliminate the "wo" from the thread title and then it makes more sense.

Aww, you really thought you did something here.

How precious.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

Boy mom here, same problem. I beg him constantly and the most I have accomplished is dishes in the washer if I give him daily reminders and tell him to do it. I stopped cleaning his room and now it is a pigsty.

?? I have multiple boys, and I don't have this problem at all. First, I'm not "begging" him to do anything. The dishes go in the washer, and that's that. Same with the room. The rule is that it has to be cleaned. Pigsty isn't an option.

+100. My Indian grandmother raised 8 boys and 2 girls in a tiny village house. My dad and his 7 brothers all learned how to cook, clean, do laundry, as well as get the great grades, etc that allowed them to emigrate to wherever they wanted. This idea that boys can't be taught how to do domestic chores and take responsibility for household work is a bunch of nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

Boy mom here, same problem. I beg him constantly and the most I have accomplished is dishes in the washer if I give him daily reminders and tell him to do it. I stopped cleaning his room and now it is a pigsty.

?? I have multiple boys, and I don't have this problem at all. First, I'm not "begging" him to do anything. The dishes go in the washer, and that's that. Same with the room. The rule is that it has to be cleaned. Pigsty isn't an option.

+_1. These are all parenting issues, not child issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

PP. here.. I don't have any of those issues with my DS (11 YO). He does the dishes, helps with laundry, folds his clothes and puts them away. He also vacuums when asked and helps his sister with her bed bc she is still at an age where she needs help. My DH is the same way. He's endlessly helpful.
Don't know what is going on that so many of these PPs think men are failing in society. I've not found that to be true in my family at all. And I continue to be worried about DS and hope that he does not date in the DC market.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

Boy mom here, same problem. I beg him constantly and the most I have accomplished is dishes in the washer if I give him daily reminders and tell him to do it. I stopped cleaning his room and now it is a pigsty.

?? I have multiple boys, and I don't have this problem at all. First, I'm not "begging" him to do anything. The dishes go in the washer, and that's that. Same with the room. The rule is that it has to be cleaned. Pigsty isn't an option.

Haven't read anything but the thread title. Eliminate the "wo" from the thread title and then it makes more sense.

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

What about marrying a woman then?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

I think it would be kinder to hope your son doesn’t have a future wife to burden, don’t you?

I will try to be a very appreciative and involved grandmother if I am lucky to get grand kids. I always tell myself how grateful I would be to any girl who would give him a family experience.

But think about this for a second. You want a girl to give your son “a family experience” knowing that means she is going to be responsible for doing way more of the work of the household while you’re son takes advantage of her. Are you going to support your son financially as an adult? Because what you’re describing is a heartless thing to wish on someone else’s daughter.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

I think it would be kinder to hope your son doesn’t have a future wife to burden, don’t you?

I will try to be a very appreciative and involved grandmother if I am lucky to get grand kids. I always tell myself how grateful I would be to any girl who would give him a family experience.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

Boy mom here, same problem. I beg him constantly and the most I have accomplished is dishes in the washer if I give him daily reminders and tell him to do it. I stopped cleaning his room and now it is a pigsty.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society

I think it would be kinder to hope your son doesn’t have a future wife to burden, don’t you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

Another post from The Coven of Bitter Divorcees.

+1
There's a reason why guys never date American women when there are other options available. So frumpy and horrible attitudes.

Honestly, these threads make me worry for my son. I hope that he does not marry a typical DC metro woman bc the attitudes are just awful. I often wonder if leaving this area and returning to my home state would be better for the kids future prospects. Everyone is just so miserable here.

I also have a son for some reason he can’t learn to put away his dishes or make his bed despite my patient reminders. I worry for his future kids and wife and will be happy if some girl agrees to take him on with all these man child qualities. I could not do my job as a mother, therapists couldn’t do it, and I don’t know why men just fail in modern society