Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Oh yes I am sure you are a BIG supporter of community development! Give me a break.
Your argument would be stronger if you addressed the concern, not the poster.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
I, a moderate who has voted for both parties, have been shocked to hear my “liberal” friends make jokes about having to go to an office so small businesses owners could stay in business. As if the federal government has no responsibility to care about them.
This is why people are hypocrites. They’re just some NIMBY jerks.
Yeah no, try again. I can support small business in my neighborhood when I WFH. “Maintaing shitty DC lunch counters downtown” is not part of the federal mission. I could equally say that the community minded thing is to reduce pollution by minimizing commutes with WFH. Or that with the additional 2 hr/day, federal workers are now able to contribute to their actual communities through volunteering and being active in schools.
Not the person you responded to, but, again, you're making the case for hybrid - essentially the pre-pandemic standard - not remote. As you say, when time is spent between your local community and downtown, both benefit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a lot of arguments have been floated, let’s recap the institutional reasons to not allow remote or full-time local telework, and instead, support hybrid, which was essentially the pre-pandemic standard:
1) Based on the number of job board postings, the Fed does not face a staffing emergency. Plenty of people are willing to accept hybrid to work at the Board.
2) The Board does not need remote or full-time local telework to differentiate itself from the private sector. Differentiators already include work/life balance, a generous, fully-paid pension, generous leave, lifetime healthcare, and more. Also, hybrid is consistent with or more generous than private options or where they’re heading.
3) The Board does not need remote to hire RB experts. There is a longstanding practice that most large System projects include substantial RB resources. The Board has never endeavored, nor should it, to directly employ all the System’s best experts.
4) The Fed should walk its community development talk. Hybrid supports both local communities and downtown DC. Full-time area telework does not support downtown DC. Remote doesn’t support Metro at all. Supporting Metro is important because the area and many private firms have made large investments on behalf of these jobs. Allowing these jobs to flee DC jeopardizes these investments and the surrounding communities.
5) Hybrid also balances institutional and community concerns with those of working families, minority concerns, and the environment. While it may not be a perfect solution, it is balanced.
6) As the world’s leading central bank and leading domestic economic authority, the Board continues to innovate in a rapidly changing world. In that context, innovation efforts in research, policy, and supervisory practices benefit from at least some in-office/person-to-person time with peers and industry players.
7) Hybrid encourages employee engagement, if only by getting people into the office and talking more directly with each other. Full-time telework or remote leads to a check-the-box-and-check-out mentality, which leads many to regard their work as a paycheck only.
I hope your leaders will articulate these reasons to you, as many said their greatest frustration was removal of a WFH benefit without explanation.
A couple thing in response to your thoughtful post.
1. The Board is offering full-time remote work to a small percentage of the workforce. The question is not about remote work, but the minimum requirement for onsite work. They are requiring 50% onsite, which is significantly more than competitors. They currently require roughly 20%. Why the increase? What is the tangible benefit of that additional 30%?
2. The Board absolutely pulls a significant amount of talent from the RBs to be employed at the Board, notwithstanding the partnership that exists on many issues. The combination of the small percentage of fully remote allowed and the increased minimum will limit, and has limited, their ability to do this effectively.
3. The direct competitors for many divisions are the other financial regulators. The Board has historically offered a total benefits package that is slightly better than the rest. This is no longer true.
4. The number of job board postings is not a good indicator of attrition. The live postings represent only a percentage of the unfilled positions. The hiring timeline takes a lot longer and many more positions are unfilled at any given time than are reflected in the postings.
5. The "community development" argument does not track. There is no specific mission to promote development in DC. Communities develop all over the country and DC exurbs.
6. As to the argument for hybrid *in general* I agree. Some onsite presence is a good thing. Again, the question is exactly how much is needed, and when there should be more flexibility for FTR in some roles.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Why does the community have to be DC? Other communities matter too.
Because DC is where the jobs have been, and therefore, much investment has been made on their behalf. Subways, airports, etc. are not transportable. Also, there are large human and physical “networks” that support an industry, which are not easily disassembled and moved elsewhere. If you don’t like DC, why don’t you change jobs and move? Why do you need to take a DC-based job elsewhere? If you went to Broadway and asked to perform your role virtually, they’d laugh at you.
Because they want to be paid more and live in a lower rent area because somehow they think they’re the only person who can’t afford a mansion. They take into account no impacts from the personal move, raising prices elsewhere or increasing traffic. They don’t care about the impact of the area they leave. They have no concern for organizational effectiveness outside of the immediate team. They don’t notice that federal offices in other states have a lower standard of living, save a handful of places they’re unlikely to choose, and that those employees don’t make a DC salary and never did, so if management even moves them they may have a higher salary than existing employees in those areas, but also they don’t want to actually take the locality pay change. It’s a self serving short term understanding of so many things that leads to this argument.
Personally, I love a hybrid environment.
I think that’s what really constitutes a win-win for everyone. If people are in a couple dats a week there are enough workers to support infrastructure, traffic is decreased, flexibility is increased, and organizational effectiveness remains in tact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Why does the community have to be DC? Other communities matter too.
Because DC is where the jobs have been, and therefore, much investment has been made on their behalf. Subways, airports, etc. are not transportable. Also, there are large human and physical “networks” that support an industry, which are not easily disassembled and moved elsewhere. If you don’t like DC, why don’t you change jobs and move? Why do you need to take a DC-based job elsewhere? If you went to Broadway and asked to perform your role virtually, they’d laugh at you.
Because they want to be paid more and live in a lower rent area because somehow they think they’re the only person who can’t afford a mansion. They take into account no impacts from the personal move, raising prices elsewhere or increasing traffic. They don’t care about the impact of the area they leave. They have no concern for organizational effectiveness outside of the immediate team. They don’t notice that federal offices in other states have a lower standard of living, save a handful of places they’re unlikely to choose, and that those employees don’t make a DC salary and never did, so if management even moves them they may have a higher salary than existing employees in those areas, but also they don’t want to actually take the locality pay change. It’s a self serving short term understanding of so many things that leads to this argument.
Personally, I love a hybrid environment.
I think that’s what really constitutes a win-win for everyone. If people are in a couple dats a week there are enough workers to support infrastructure, traffic is decreased, flexibility is increased, and organizational effectiveness remains in tact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since a lot of arguments have been floated, let’s recap the institutional reasons to not allow remote or full-time local telework, and instead, support hybrid, which was essentially the pre-pandemic standard:
1) Based on the number of job board postings, the Fed does not face a staffing emergency. Plenty of people are willing to accept hybrid to work at the Board.
2) The Board does not need remote or full-time local telework to differentiate itself from the private sector. Differentiators already include work/life balance, a generous, fully-paid pension, generous leave, lifetime healthcare, and more. Also, hybrid is consistent with or more generous than private options or where they’re heading.
3) The Board does not need remote to hire RB experts. There is a longstanding practice that most large System projects include substantial RB resources. The Board has never endeavored, nor should it, to directly employ all the System’s best experts.
4) The Fed should walk its community development talk. Hybrid supports both local communities and downtown DC. Full-time area telework does not support downtown DC. Remote doesn’t support Metro at all. Supporting Metro is important because the area and many private firms have made large investments on behalf of these jobs. Allowing these jobs to flee DC jeopardizes these investments and the surrounding communities.
5) Hybrid also balances institutional and community concerns with those of working families, minority concerns, and the environment. While it may not be a perfect solution, it is balanced.
6) As the world’s leading central bank and leading domestic economic authority, the Board continues to innovate in a rapidly changing world. In that context, innovation efforts in research, policy, and supervisory practices benefit from at least some in-office/person-to-person time with peers and industry players.
7) Hybrid encourages employee engagement, if only by getting people into the office and talking more directly with each other. Full-time telework or remote leads to a check-the-box-and-check-out mentality, which leads many to regard their work as a paycheck only.
I hope your leaders will articulate these reasons to you, as many said their greatest frustration was removal of a WFH benefit without explanation.
A couple thing in response to your thoughtful post.
1. The Board is offering full-time remote work to a small percentage of the workforce. The question is not about remote work, but the minimum requirement for onsite work. They are requiring 50% onsite, which is significantly more than competitors. They currently require roughly 20%. Why the increase? What is the tangible benefit of that additional 30%?
2. The Board absolutely pulls a significant amount of talent from the RBs to be employed at the Board, notwithstanding the partnership that exists on many issues. The combination of the small percentage of fully remote allowed and the increased minimum will limit, and has limited, their ability to do this effectively.
3. The direct competitors for many divisions are the other financial regulators. The Board has historically offered a total benefits package that is slightly better than the rest. This is no longer true.
4. The number of job board postings is not a good indicator of attrition. The live postings represent only a percentage of the unfilled positions. The hiring timeline takes a lot longer and many more positions are unfilled at any given time than are reflected in the postings.
5. The "community development" argument does not track. There is no specific mission to promote development in DC. Communities develop all over the country and DC exurbs.
6. As to the argument for hybrid *in general* I agree. Some onsite presence is a good thing. Again, the question is exactly how much is needed, and when there should be more flexibility for FTR in some roles.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Why does the community have to be DC? Other communities matter too.
Because DC is where the jobs have been, and therefore, much investment has been made on their behalf. Subways, airports, etc. are not transportable. Also, there are large human and physical “networks” that support an industry, which are not easily disassembled and moved elsewhere. If you don’t like DC, why don’t you change jobs and move? Why do you need to take a DC-based job elsewhere? If you went to Broadway and asked to perform your role virtually, they’d laugh at you.
Anonymous wrote:Since a lot of arguments have been floated, let’s recap the institutional reasons to not allow remote or full-time local telework, and instead, support hybrid, which was essentially the pre-pandemic standard:
1) Based on the number of job board postings, the Fed does not face a staffing emergency. Plenty of people are willing to accept hybrid to work at the Board.
2) The Board does not need remote or full-time local telework to differentiate itself from the private sector. Differentiators already include work/life balance, a generous, fully-paid pension, generous leave, lifetime healthcare, and more. Also, hybrid is consistent with or more generous than private options or where they’re heading.
3) The Board does not need remote to hire RB experts. There is a longstanding practice that most large System projects include substantial RB resources. The Board has never endeavored, nor should it, to directly employ all the System’s best experts.
4) The Fed should walk its community development talk. Hybrid supports both local communities and downtown DC. Full-time area telework does not support downtown DC. Remote doesn’t support Metro at all. Supporting Metro is important because the area and many private firms have made large investments on behalf of these jobs. Allowing these jobs to flee DC jeopardizes these investments and the surrounding communities.
5) Hybrid also balances institutional and community concerns with those of working families, minority concerns, and the environment. While it may not be a perfect solution, it is balanced.
6) As the world’s leading central bank and leading domestic economic authority, the Board continues to innovate in a rapidly changing world. In that context, innovation efforts in research, policy, and supervisory practices benefit from at least some in-office/person-to-person time with peers and industry players.
7) Hybrid encourages employee engagement, if only by getting people into the office and talking more directly with each other. Full-time telework or remote leads to a check-the-box-and-check-out mentality, which leads many to regard their work as a paycheck only.
I hope your leaders will articulate these reasons to you, as many said their greatest frustration was removal of a WFH benefit without explanation.
Anonymous wrote:Since a lot of arguments have been floated, let’s recap the institutional reasons to not allow remote or full-time local telework, and instead, support hybrid, which was essentially the pre-pandemic standard:
1) Based on the number of job board postings, the Fed does not face a staffing emergency. Plenty of people are willing to accept hybrid to work at the Board.
2) The Board does not need remote or full-time local telework to differentiate itself from the private sector. Differentiators already include work/life balance, a generous, fully-paid pension, generous leave, lifetime healthcare, and more. Also, hybrid is consistent with or more generous than private options or where they’re heading.
3) The Board does not need remote to hire RB experts. There is a longstanding practice that most large System projects include substantial RB resources. The Board has never endeavored, nor should it, to directly employ all the System’s best experts.
4) The Fed should walk its community development talk. Hybrid supports both local communities and downtown DC. Full-time area telework does not support downtown DC. Remote doesn’t support Metro at all. Supporting Metro is important because the area and many private firms have made large investments on behalf of these jobs. Allowing these jobs to flee DC jeopardizes these investments and the surrounding communities.
5) Hybrid also balances institutional and community concerns with those of working families, minority concerns, and the environment. While it may not be a perfect solution, it is balanced.
6) As the world’s leading central bank and leading domestic economic authority, the Board continues to innovate in a rapidly changing world. In that context, innovation efforts in research, policy, and supervisory practices benefit from at least some in-office/person-to-person time with peers and industry players.
7) Hybrid encourages employee engagement, if only by getting people into the office and talking more directly with each other. Full-time telework or remote leads to a check-the-box-and-check-out mentality, which leads many to regard their work as a paycheck only.
I hope your leaders will articulate these reasons to you, as many said their greatest frustration was removal of a WFH benefit without explanation.
Anonymous wrote:Since a lot of arguments have been floated, let’s recap the institutional reasons to not allow remote or full-time local telework, and instead, support hybrid, which was essentially the pre-pandemic standard:
1) Based on the number of job board postings, the Fed does not face a staffing emergency. Plenty of people are willing to accept hybrid to work at the Board.
2) The Board does not need remote or full-time local telework to differentiate itself from the private sector. Differentiators already include work/life balance, a generous, fully-paid pension, generous leave, lifetime healthcare, and more. Also, hybrid is consistent with or more generous than private options or where they’re heading.
3) The Board does not need remote to hire RB experts. There is a longstanding practice that most large System projects include substantial RB resources. The Board has never endeavored, nor should it, to directly employ all the System’s best experts.
4) The Fed should walk its community development talk. Hybrid supports both local communities and downtown DC. Full-time area telework does not support downtown DC. Remote doesn’t support Metro at all. Supporting Metro is important because the area and many private firms have made large investments on behalf of these jobs. Allowing these jobs to flee DC jeopardizes these investments and the surrounding communities.
5) Hybrid also balances institutional and community concerns with those of working families, minority concerns, and the environment. While it may not be a perfect solution, it is balanced.
6) As the world’s leading central bank and leading domestic economic authority, the Board continues to innovate in a rapidly changing world. In that context, innovation efforts in research, policy, and supervisory practices benefit from at least some in-office/person-to-person time with peers and industry players.
7) Hybrid encourages employee engagement, if only by getting people into the office and talking more directly with each other. Full-time telework or remote leads to a check-the-box-and-check-out mentality, which leads many to regard their work as a paycheck only.
I hope your leaders will articulate these reasons to you, as many said their greatest frustration was removal of a WFH benefit without explanation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Why does the community have to be DC? Other communities matter too.
Because DC is where the jobs have been, and therefore, much investment has been made on their behalf. Subways, airports, etc. are not transportable. Also, there are large human and physical “networks” that support an industry, which are not easily disassembled and moved elsewhere. If you don’t like DC, why don’t you change jobs and move? Why do you need to take a DC-based job elsewhere? If you went to Broadway and asked to perform your role virtually, they’d laugh at you.
Just because something was a certain way in the past doesn’t mean it must continue.
You’re ripping this from context. The reason why things persist is because large investments have been made in them. Also, nothing is broken here. What has changed is your potential to pocket private gain at public expense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Why does the community have to be DC? Other communities matter too.
Because DC is where the jobs have been, and therefore, much investment has been made on their behalf. Subways, airports, etc. are not transportable. Also, there are large human and physical “networks” that support an industry, which are not easily disassembled and moved elsewhere. If you don’t like DC, why don’t you change jobs and move? Why do you need to take a DC-based job elsewhere? If you went to Broadway and asked to perform your role virtually, they’d laugh at you.
Just because something was a certain way in the past doesn’t mean it must continue.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm really shocked and saddened by the movement to gut DC of DC-based positions. Typically, supporters of unions are strong community activists.
Federal government jobs are the core of DC employment. Yes, DC employment is somewhat diversified, but even many private firms are here because federal government functions are here. Perhaps, OP and their ilk represent a few jobs, but they are setting a dangerous precedent.In fact, they are using the CFPB as precedent for what they want. This is not about a few workers who want to take their goodies and leave DC. It is about a few people who want to start a trend to gut the area of its bedrock employment and economic well-being.
And, remember, a community is about more than home prices, it is also about local governments, schools, and small businesses. It is so highly ironic that both the CFPB and the Fed have a community development mandate, and yet, their staff are leading the charge to gut their own community.
This whole thread seems very employee focused with little concern about the institutions of government and the Metro area. What is a country to do when even its own stewards sit ready to undermine it?
Why does the community have to be DC? Other communities matter too.
Because DC is where the jobs have been, and therefore, much investment has been made on their behalf. Subways, airports, etc. are not transportable. Also, there are large human and physical “networks” that support an industry, which are not easily disassembled and moved elsewhere. If you don’t like DC, why don’t you change jobs and move? Why do you need to take a DC-based job elsewhere? If you went to Broadway and asked to perform your role virtually, they’d laugh at you.