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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.

I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.

PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?

Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?

You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".

Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?

I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.

You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.

You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.

Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?

But she is meeting with and listening to police.

Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?

Now we're back to your belief that your way is the only way.

Have I said “only way”? Anywhere? Seriously? What is so wrong with suggesting that she take a close look at the job and speak directly to those doing it? Is that an unreasonable suggestion?

I’m not an “only way” sort person. I’m very logical and reasonable. I don’t see my suggestion as unreasonable AT ALL, and I fail to understand why this is such a hard line for you.

You are an "only way" sort of person, evidently. Specifically, you seem to believe that if she's not doing ride-alongs and the citizen's academy, then she can't be taking a close look at the job and speaking directly to those doing it.

Well, if she’s not… she’s not. You can’t take a “close look at the job” without actually taking a close look at the job.

I’m assuming you’re okay with that. Fine. I expect more from my local politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.

I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.

PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?

Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?

You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".

Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?

I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.

You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.

You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.

Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?

But she is meeting with and listening to police.

Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?

Now we're back to your belief that your way is the only way.

Have I said “only way”? Anywhere? Seriously? What is so wrong with suggesting that she take a close look at the job and speak directly to those doing it? Is that an unreasonable suggestion?

I’m not an “only way” sort person. I’m very logical and reasonable. I don’t see my suggestion as unreasonable AT ALL, and I fail to understand why this is such a hard line for you.

You are an "only way" sort of person, evidently. Specifically, you seem to believe that if she's not doing ride-alongs and the citizen's academy, then she can't be taking a close look at the job and speaking directly to those doing it.

Well, if she’s not… she’s not. You can’t take a “close look at the job” without actually taking a close look at the job.

I’m assuming you’re okay with that. Fine. I expect more from my local politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.

I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.

PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?

Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?

You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".

Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?

I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.

You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.

You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.

Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?

But she is meeting with and listening to police.

Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?

Now we're back to your belief that your way is the only way.

Have I said “only way”? Anywhere? Seriously? What is so wrong with suggesting that she take a close look at the job and speak directly to those doing it? Is that an unreasonable suggestion?

I’m not an “only way” sort person. I’m very logical and reasonable. I don’t see my suggestion as unreasonable AT ALL, and I fail to understand why this is such a hard line for you.

You are an "only way" sort of person, evidently. Specifically, you seem to believe that if she's not doing ride-alongs and the citizen's academy, then she can't be taking a close look at the job and speaking directly to those doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.

I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.

PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?

Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?

You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".

Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?

I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.

You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.

You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.

Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?

But she is meeting with and listening to police.

Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?

Now we're back to your belief that your way is the only way.

Have I said “only way”? Anywhere? Seriously? What is so wrong with suggesting that she take a close look at the job and speak directly to those doing it? Is that an unreasonable suggestion?

I’m not an “only way” sort person. I’m very logical and reasonable. I don’t see my suggestion as unreasonable AT ALL, and I fail to understand why this is such a hard line for you.