Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:59     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

What is the reason people shouldn’t redshirt? Theres just a bunch of ranting and raving in here with no substance.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:58     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.


Well, then you can provide hard evidence in the form of your own links. But the assertion was made that the PP was lying about the writing requirements in her child’s kindergarten (I believe the exact phrase was “Didn’t happen”), and as it turns out there is plenty of impartial evidence that she was not lying at all. Sorry evidence-based statements bother you so much.

Sorry personal narratives are not being assigned to kindergartners. Seemingly, you are disappointed and bothered by that.


Sorry you can’t provide any evidence to back your (flatly absurd) statement up.


No one needs to provide any evidence to back that their school is not assigning personal narratives. You’re emotionally unbalanced.


Angry you’ve been caught out as a raging liar, I see. Now you are lashing out. Shrug. Predictable response to being shown to be a liar.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:54     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


My kinders are taught how to form upper and lower case letters along with the sounds that correspond with each letter. Few small words to practice spelling and of course first and last names. Few may write 3-5 word sentences by years end.

Your experience is no more true than mine. My child was asked to sit at a desk and work silently for 3+ hours every morning. From day 2 she was asked to stretch out her words to write narratives. She was asked to sit and read silently to herself for up to an hour a day. Call it whatever you want, but it wasn't appropriate for a 4 yo or new 5 yo. She cried herself to sleep every night for the entire school year. It was a terrible year and 1st wasn't much better.


You need to talk to the superintendent/principle about that. That is a issue with the school curriculum or teacher and not with an issue of redshirting.

This is literally the curriculum purchased and adopted by the school board. That's what LC reader's and writer's workshop requires. The school board is aware.

If you Google there are tons of articles about K not being developmentally appropriate or too academic. It's not an issue exclusive to LC.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:54     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


My kinders are taught how to form upper and lower case letters along with the sounds that correspond with each letter. Few small words to practice spelling and of course first and last names. Few may write 3-5 word sentences by years end.

Your experience is no more true than mine. My child was asked to sit at a desk and work silently for 3+ hours every morning. From day 2 she was asked to stretch out her words to write narratives. She was asked to sit and read silently to herself for up to an hour a day. Call it whatever you want, but it wasn't appropriate for a 4 yo or new 5 yo. She cried herself to sleep every night for the entire school year. It was a terrible year and 1st wasn't much better.


You need to talk to the superintendent/principle about that. That is a issue with the school curriculum or teacher and not with an issue of redshirting.


Why? People like PP can just redshirt. Don’t like it? Talk to your principal.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:52     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.

Per the NY Times, a quarter of the country's elementary schools were using LC. That's a significant portion of schools and, as linked previously, the K curriculum includes writing narratives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/22/us/reading-teaching-curriculum-phonics.html#:~:text=Her%20curriculum%2C%20%E2%80%9CUnits%20of%20Study,67%2C000%20elementary%20schools%20use%20it.


No thank you for sending an article with a paywall.
Besides that, how does that support using LC as a measure of going to kinder or not. It doesn’t. Keep eating yourself alive dying on that LC hill.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:49     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.


Well, then you can provide hard evidence in the form of your own links. But the assertion was made that the PP was lying about the writing requirements in her child’s kindergarten (I believe the exact phrase was “Didn’t happen”), and as it turns out there is plenty of impartial evidence that she was not lying at all. Sorry evidence-based statements bother you so much.

Sorry personal narratives are not being assigned to kindergartners. Seemingly, you are disappointed and bothered by that.


Sorry you can’t provide any evidence to back your (flatly absurd) statement up.


No one needs to provide any evidence to back that their school is not assigning personal narratives. You’re emotionally unbalanced.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:49     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.

Per the NY Times, a quarter of the country's elementary schools were using LC. That's a significant portion of schools and, as linked previously, the K curriculum includes writing narratives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/22/us/reading-teaching-curriculum-phonics.html#:~:text=Her%20curriculum%2C%20%E2%80%9CUnits%20of%20Study,67%2C000%20elementary%20schools%20use%20it.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:48     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


My kinders are taught how to form upper and lower case letters along with the sounds that correspond with each letter. Few small words to practice spelling and of course first and last names. Few may write 3-5 word sentences by years end.

Your experience is no more true than mine. My child was asked to sit at a desk and work silently for 3+ hours every morning. From day 2 she was asked to stretch out her words to write narratives. She was asked to sit and read silently to herself for up to an hour a day. Call it whatever you want, but it wasn't appropriate for a 4 yo or new 5 yo. She cried herself to sleep every night for the entire school year. It was a terrible year and 1st wasn't much better.


You need to talk to the superintendent/principle about that. That is a issue with the school curriculum or teacher and not with an issue of redshirting.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:46     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.


Well, then you can provide hard evidence in the form of your own links. But the assertion was made that the PP was lying about the writing requirements in her child’s kindergarten (I believe the exact phrase was “Didn’t happen”), and as it turns out there is plenty of impartial evidence that she was not lying at all. Sorry evidence-based statements bother you so much.

Sorry personal narratives are not being assigned to kindergartners. Seemingly, you are disappointed and bothered by that.


Sorry you can’t provide any evidence to back your (flatly absurd) statement up.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:46     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.


Well, then you can provide hard evidence in the form of your own links. But the assertion was made that the PP was lying about the writing requirements in her child’s kindergarten (I believe the exact phrase was “Didn’t happen”), and as it turns out there is plenty of impartial evidence that she was not lying at all. Sorry evidence-based statements bother you so much.


NP. No one cares about this dubious assertion. You are hell bent on trying to “prove” something that is not relevant to most kindergartners, if not all.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:44     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


My kinders are taught how to form upper and lower case letters along with the sounds that correspond with each letter. Few small words to practice spelling and of course first and last names. Few may write 3-5 word sentences by years end.

Your experience is no more true than mine. My child was asked to sit at a desk and work silently for 3+ hours every morning. From day 2 she was asked to stretch out her words to write narratives. She was asked to sit and read silently to herself for up to an hour a day. Call it whatever you want, but it wasn't appropriate for a 4 yo or new 5 yo. She cried herself to sleep every night for the entire school year. It was a terrible year and 1st wasn't much better.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:43     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.


Well, then you can provide hard evidence in the form of your own links. But the assertion was made that the PP was lying about the writing requirements in her child’s kindergarten (I believe the exact phrase was “Didn’t happen”), and as it turns out there is plenty of impartial evidence that she was not lying at all. Sorry evidence-based statements bother you so much.

Sorry personal narratives are not being assigned to kindergartners. Seemingly, you are disappointed and bothered by that.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:41     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


You are ill-informed. I am a para-teacher for grades k-2 and never have my kindergartners been asked to write a personal narrative.
You’re issue is with schools that use the LC curicullum which is not the vast majority of kindergarten schools across the country.


Well, then you can provide hard evidence in the form of your own links. But the assertion was made that the PP was lying about the writing requirements in her child’s kindergarten (I believe the exact phrase was “Didn’t happen”), and as it turns out there is plenty of impartial evidence that she was not lying at all. Sorry evidence-based statements bother you so much.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:37     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thirteen pages in five hours. You all are incredible.


DCUM Thunderdome!


You’ve said that already pages ago.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:36     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is a Lucy Calkins “Kindergarten Sampler” that goes into great detail about writing a personal narrative and other written stories. Not sure why the other PPs are so incredulous and skeptical. There is a ton of documentation about this. It’s definitely a common project.

https://www.heinemann.com/shared/marketingcontent/calkins-samplers/calkinssamp_gr0kfinal2.pdf


Has nothing to do with decision making surrounding red-shirting. Start your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There is already a Lucy Calkins one.


It is hard evidence that the anti-redshirters who are screaming about how the PP must have made up the story about the personal narrative in kindergarten are, per usual, ill-informed.


My kinders are taught how to form upper and lower case letters along with the sounds that correspond with each letter. Few small words to practice spelling and of course first and last names. Few may write 3-5 word sentences by years end.