Anonymous
12/12/2022 17:29
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will Manchin follow?
My bet is Yes
No he won't. That won't play in WV.
Are you sure about that?
Shortly after Manchin voted for the Inflation Reduction Act legislation, which doesn’t work to reduce inflation, his approval rating in West Virginia plummeted.
Mooney is going to run against him in 2024.
What is the upside for Manchin of quitting the Democratic party? I can't see one. On the other hand, there are a lot of downsides. Democrats might nominate someone else. He would have to spend money to get on the ballot. He would lose access to party funding. He might lose votes from Democrats.
Manchin doesn't need Democrat votes to get elected. He barely won his last election, and might lose his next one. Switching parties gives him a pretty good chance of getting reelected, as Republicans probably wouldn't beat him in a primary in WV.
By threatening to quit, it shuts down all of the liberals attacking him for not giving them everything they want. They can't take away his committee chairmanship, because he could easily switch to get Republicans back to a power sharing position, and McConnell will give him the chairmanship to do it.
Absolutely everything you wrote is wrong. How can someone pack so much wrong into so few sentences. Hats off to you.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 17:03
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will Manchin follow?
My bet is Yes
No he won't. That won't play in WV.
Are you sure about that?
Shortly after Manchin voted for the Inflation Reduction Act legislation, which doesn’t work to reduce inflation, his approval rating in West Virginia plummeted.
Mooney is going to run against him in 2024.
What is the upside for Manchin of quitting the Democratic party? I can't see one. On the other hand, there are a lot of downsides. Democrats might nominate someone else. He would have to spend money to get on the ballot. He would lose access to party funding. He might lose votes from Democrats.
Manchin doesn't need Democrat votes to get elected. He barely won his last election, and might lose his next one. Switching parties gives him a pretty good chance of getting reelected, as Republicans probably wouldn't beat him in a primary in WV.
By threatening to quit, it shuts down all of the liberals attacking him for not giving them everything they want. They can't take away his committee chairmanship, because he could easily switch to get Republicans back to a power sharing position, and McConnell will give him the chairmanship to do it.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 16:19
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will Manchin follow?
My bet is Yes
No he won't. That won't play in WV.
Are you sure about that?
Shortly after Manchin voted for the Inflation Reduction Act legislation, which doesn’t work to reduce inflation, his approval rating in West Virginia plummeted.
Mooney is going to run against him in 2024.
What is the upside for Manchin of quitting the Democratic party? I can't see one. On the other hand, there are a lot of downsides. Democrats might nominate someone else. He would have to spend money to get on the ballot. He would lose access to party funding. He might lose votes from Democrats.
Manchin can’t be too worried about a Democratic challenger. Meanwhile he gets to operate as a de facto centrist Republican and tell his constituents about supposed bipartisan bona fides while cruising around in his Maserati. The best of both worlds cashing corporate donor checks for blocking filibuster reform.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 15:40
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will Manchin follow?
My bet is Yes
No he won't. That won't play in WV.
Are you sure about that?
Shortly after Manchin voted for the Inflation Reduction Act legislation, which doesn’t work to reduce inflation, his approval rating in West Virginia plummeted.
Mooney is going to run against him in 2024.
What is the upside for Manchin of quitting the Democratic party? I can't see one. On the other hand, there are a lot of downsides. Democrats might nominate someone else. He would have to spend money to get on the ballot. He would lose access to party funding. He might lose votes from Democrats.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 15:35
Subject: Re:Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone allowed to change party affiliation in the middle of their elected terms. Our democracy is so flawed. This should require her to resign. People did not vote her to be “independent”. She used Democratic machinations and voters for election and now she is saying f u!
This is a fair point. One should have to resign and run again.
Parties aren't elected, people are.
What is the point of a primary election then?
Party nominees automatically on general ballot. No need to gather signatures. Party nominees get party funding. Sinema took the DNC/DSCC/Actblue money.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 15:25
Subject: Re:Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone allowed to change party affiliation in the middle of their elected terms. Our democracy is so flawed. This should require her to resign. People did not vote her to be “independent”. She used Democratic machinations and voters for election and now she is saying f u!
This is a fair point. One should have to resign and run again.
Parties aren't elected, people are.
What is the point of a primary election then?
You should be asking what the point it of the general election, which is to elect a person to the US Senate. The primary is irrelevant.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 15:17
Subject: Re:Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone allowed to change party affiliation in the middle of their elected terms. Our democracy is so flawed. This should require her to resign. People did not vote her to be “independent”. She used Democratic machinations and voters for election and now she is saying f u!
This is a fair point. One should have to resign and run again.
Parties aren't elected, people are.
What is the point of a primary election then?
Anonymous
12/12/2022 12:50
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is done. Republicans and democrats both see an opportunity to pick up a seat. Dems should strip her from all her Committee assignments
Why? Then we’re back to 50/50 on committees which negates the majority we just won.
Lol it is 50/50 now. She is not a democrat and the republicans do not want her. Word is she was going to become a republicans if Warnock lost but the deal is off now.
No, it’s 51-49 now because Sinema’s office confirmed she’s keeping her committee assignments and will not caucus with the Republicans. And whose “word” is that?
Lol sure she will. I am so glad you trust and believe everything she says. She is a woman of her word! She was using Fox talking points as she gave the dems the finger. She will f them over at any opportunity and the moderates like yourself will embrace her.
My suspicion is, as investigations in the House progress, more moderate Senators will break rank from the leftists, if only to survive.
So this will be like all the other really successful republican investigations? Like...?
Anonymous
12/12/2022 12:42
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is done. Republicans and democrats both see an opportunity to pick up a seat. Dems should strip her from all her Committee assignments
Why? Then we’re back to 50/50 on committees which negates the majority we just won.
Lol it is 50/50 now. She is not a democrat and the republicans do not want her. Word is she was going to become a republicans if Warnock lost but the deal is off now.
No, it’s 51-49 now because Sinema’s office confirmed she’s keeping her committee assignments and will not caucus with the Republicans. And whose “word” is that?
Lol sure she will. I am so glad you trust and believe everything she says. She is a woman of her word! She was using Fox talking points as she gave the dems the finger. She will f them over at any opportunity and the moderates like yourself will embrace her.
My suspicion is, as investigations in the House progress, more moderate Senators will break rank from the leftists, if only to survive.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 12:38
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will Manchin follow?
My bet is Yes
No he won't. That won't play in WV.
Are you sure about that?
Shortly after Manchin voted for the Inflation Reduction Act legislation, which doesn’t work to reduce inflation, his approval rating in West Virginia plummeted.
Mooney is going to run against him in 2024.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 12:13
Subject: Re:Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone allowed to change party affiliation in the middle of their elected terms. Our democracy is so flawed. This should require her to resign. People did not vote her to be “independent”. She used Democratic machinations and voters for election and now she is saying f u!
This is a fair point. One should have to resign and run again.
Parties aren't elected, people are.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 12:07
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Sinema and Manchin will have much less importance in the new Congress than in the current Congress because of the House flipping. Beginning Jan 3 nothing can be enacted without Republican votes and anything that passes the House would have some Republican support in the Senate. The only things Senate Democrats will be able to do without Republican votes are appointment confirmations.
And judicial confirmations.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 12:05
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Sinema and Manchin will have much less importance in the new Congress than in the current Congress because of the House flipping. Beginning Jan 3 nothing can be enacted without Republican votes and anything that passes the House would have some Republican support in the Senate. The only things Senate Democrats will be able to do without Republican votes are appointment confirmations.
Anonymous
12/12/2022 11:45
Subject: Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Will Manchin follow?
My bet is Yes
No he won't. That won't play in WV.
Anonymous
12/11/2022 22:00
Subject: Re:Sinema registers as independent
Anonymous wrote:Why is anyone allowed to change party affiliation in the middle of their elected terms. Our democracy is so flawed. This should require her to resign. People did not vote her to be “independent”. She used Democratic machinations and voters for election and now she is saying f u!
This is a fair point. One should have to resign and run again.