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Anonymous wrote:Side note - the boy was wearing a skirt. A few students who knew him will tell you he did not identify as gender fluid, it was just something that was done as a distraction.

This.
Too many people too focused on trying to identify him as trans or gender fluid, when there is absolutely no evidence that was the case. It just serves as a political flashpoint to generate headlines and conservative outrage.
I went to high school in the 90s. A boy in my graduating class used to show up to school in a kilt on occasion. Not a Scot, not trans or gender fluid…just did it to get a response and attention.
I don’t care what he was wearing. I care that he raped 2 girls.

I wish this was highlighted more. The only people who mention gender-fluid are national media when talking about LCPS. The actually people who went to school with the rapist, his teachers, his family - never claimed that.

Its to distract from the fact that this boy belongs in prison.

I'm not sure about that. I agree that the boy belongs in prison and that, by all accounts, he was not gender-fluid. I still question whether leadership downplayed or was not transparent about the initial incident because there were reports that the boy may have been trans or gender-fluid and the attack occurred while the system was formulating the bathroom policy.

That could be possible, but a simple discussion with his family or schoolmates would have resolved that.

There's been mention he was wearing a kilt. Was he, or was he not wearing a kilt ?! That is all the answer we need. Someone grabbed that ball and ran with it, calling him trans/gender fluid. The rest is national news making LCPSs the laughingstock school district of the nation. The board have been acting like buffoons for years now, but that's another issue. They helped create the toxic sour culture that has led to lurid headlines.

There was a photo in one of the recent articles. That wasn’t a kilt. Whether or not the kid was gender fluid is not why he attacked. The problem here is covering it up because the board/administration took his gender fluidity into consideration. The girl’s ‘reputation’ (and I question that) and his orientation should not matter - it was a non-consensual, brutal attack. The downplaying of the second girl’s attack occurred as well. The narrative initially was that he ‘grabbed her and she got away’. In fact, he nearly asphyxiated her.

The board had nothing to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:so what are schools supposed to do with kids like this, whose own mother and grandmother warned the school about?

and when does this known sociopath get released?

Kids like this? you mean rapists?

My daughter goes to stone bridge, the "kid" should have been arrested after the first rape. No alternative school no "special needs" situation.

Jail then prison.

That is why more focus needs to be on the LCSO and not so much on the schools.

Mike Chapman is ultimately responsible for this. God awful sheriff. Partisan, corrupt, unprofessional. He should be strung up.

The first principal really downplayed it too. A girl has been raped and he’s busy yelling at the father while the rapist is at large in the school. He sucks.

Where did he yell at father? And we don’t know how the father presented himself. If he came in hollering about a kid in a skirt, of course they will go to the 8020. You are assuming everyone had all information at that time. Keep in mind the sheriff didn’t even charge the kid for two months after the incident.

My understanding is the father was (unsurprisingly) agitated when he learned his daughter was assaulted. The school called the Sheriff's Office on him. Not on the violent perpetrator of the assault, on the father.

I understand that. You miss my point. If he showed up at the school hollering about a kid in a skirt and not being clear what he was upset about, it’s easy for me to see how he would be viewed as the one causing a problem. We weren’t there but it’s clear he caused a scene of some kind. We all know and understand why now, but in that moment we don’t know what happened.

Also, again, keep in mind the incident happened in May. The LCSO said for two months nothing chargeable happened. Perp was finally charged in July and only spent like a week in juvie or something. And there was a communications breakdown between LCSO and LCPS. The fact that LCSO failed to prosecute the first attack more affirmatively and aggressively ultimately led to the perp’s transfer to the different school where the second attack happened.

So much of this points to failures at two institutions. More misfeasance than malfeasance. Yet everyone is so fixated on fixing blame on individuals rather than fixing the problem. That problem is sexual assaults in schools, btw. It’s not trans kids having rights and bathroom access.

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Anonymous wrote:Side note - the boy was wearing a skirt. A few students who knew him will tell you he did not identify as gender fluid, it was just something that was done as a distraction.

This.
Too many people too focused on trying to identify him as trans or gender fluid, when there is absolutely no evidence that was the case. It just serves as a political flashpoint to generate headlines and conservative outrage.
I went to high school in the 90s. A boy in my graduating class used to show up to school in a kilt on occasion. Not a Scot, not trans or gender fluid…just did it to get a response and attention.
I don’t care what he was wearing. I care that he raped 2 girls.

I wish this was highlighted more. The only people who mention gender-fluid are national media when talking about LCPS. The actually people who went to school with the rapist, his teachers, his family - never claimed that.

Its to distract from the fact that this boy belongs in prison.

I'm not sure about that. I agree that the boy belongs in prison and that, by all accounts, he was not gender-fluid. I still question whether leadership downplayed or was not transparent about the initial incident because there were reports that the boy may have been trans or gender-fluid and the attack occurred while the system was formulating the bathroom policy.

That could be possible, but a simple discussion with his family or schoolmates would have resolved that.

There's been mention he was wearing a kilt. Was he, or was he not wearing a kilt ?! That is all the answer we need. Someone grabbed that ball and ran with it, calling him trans/gender fluid. The rest is national news making LCPSs the laughingstock school district of the nation. The board have been acting like buffoons for years now, but that's another issue. They helped create the toxic sour culture that has led to lurid headlines.

There was a photo in one of the recent articles. That wasn’t a kilt. Whether or not the kid was gender fluid is not why he attacked. The problem here is covering it up because the board/administration took his gender fluidity into consideration. The girl’s ‘reputation’ (and I question that) and his orientation should not matter - it was a non-consensual, brutal attack. The downplaying of the second girl’s attack occurred as well. The narrative initially was that he ‘grabbed her and she got away’. In fact, he nearly asphyxiated her.

This ain't over yet. Not by long.

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Anonymous wrote:They downplayed it because the first girl had a “reputation”
and had had consensual sex with the boy.

I hope you aren't implying because she had prior sexual relations and a reputation she deserved to be sexual assaulted by a sociopath?

They are telling you exactly what the school thought and why they did nothing.

They were more worried about the father than the kid who was roaming around in the school. No attempt to find him, until they saw him leaving after the bell.

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Anonymous wrote:They downplayed it because the first girl had a “reputation”
and had had consensual sex with the boy.

I hope you aren't implying because she had prior sexual relations and a reputation she deserved to be sexual assaulted by a sociopath?

Listen to all women...unless it looks bad on a woke School Board and woke County Board. You didn't know the saying

Anonymous wrote:They downplayed it because the first girl had a “reputation”
and had had consensual sex with the boy.

I hope you aren't implying because she had prior sexual relations and a reputation she deserved to be sexual assaulted by a sociopath?

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Anonymous wrote:so what are schools supposed to do with kids like this, whose own mother and grandmother warned the school about?

and when does this known sociopath get released?

Kids like this? you mean rapists?

My daughter goes to stone bridge, the "kid" should have been arrested after the first rape. No alternative school no "special needs" situation.

Jail then prison.

That is why more focus needs to be on the LCSO and not so much on the schools.

Mike Chapman is ultimately responsible for this. God awful sheriff. Partisan, corrupt, unprofessional. He should be strung up.

The first principal really downplayed it too. A girl has been raped and he’s busy yelling at the father while the rapist is at large in the school. He sucks.

Completely. I can't believe that this jerk is still the principal of my kid's school. He didn't even search for the rapist.

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Anonymous wrote:Side note - the boy was wearing a skirt. A few students who knew him will tell you he did not identify as gender fluid, it was just something that was done as a distraction.

This.
Too many people too focused on trying to identify him as trans or gender fluid, when there is absolutely no evidence that was the case. It just serves as a political flashpoint to generate headlines and conservative outrage.
I went to high school in the 90s. A boy in my graduating class used to show up to school in a kilt on occasion. Not a Scot, not trans or gender fluid…just did it to get a response and attention.
I don’t care what he was wearing. I care that he raped 2 girls.

I wish this was highlighted more. The only people who mention gender-fluid are national media when talking about LCPS. The actually people who went to school with the rapist, his teachers, his family - never claimed that.

Its to distract from the fact that this boy belongs in prison.

I'm not sure about that. I agree that the boy belongs in prison and that, by all accounts, he was not gender-fluid. I still question whether leadership downplayed or was not transparent about the initial incident because there were reports that the boy may have been trans or gender-fluid and the attack occurred while the system was formulating the bathroom policy.

You know how when kids shoot up schools all these people come out and say “we knew something was off” and tons of prior reports are released? That’s like what happened here. When kids are involved, schools are SHOCKINGLY limited in what they can do no matter how troubling the behavior or actions or speech of that child. It’s like until they commit the crime, you can’t do a thing. I’m a teacher and we all know the kids who have giant files in counseling, the school psychologist, admin, and you just report report report knowing full well you can’t stop anything that might be coming, you’re only building the file. And this isn’t like it’s one bad principal. It’s the way the entire school systems and laws to protect minors are set up. Until they actually DO something, schools cannot take any real action against them. Then of course they do it and it’s too late. So no a “simple convo” wouldn’t have changed anything. A violent kid was in a school and no matter how many people knew he was a risk, nothing could be done until he was provably violent.

DP. I’m a teacher too. I agree with all of this but it’s worth pointing out that this kid had serious behavior issues including fights and highly disruptive behavior, per his mother, since kindergarten. I guarantee his teachers tried repeatedly to get him moved to a more restrictive setting before the first rape and the district refused.

Yes, exactly my point. We the teachers see and KNOW and we document our asses off. But we are told nothing can be done UNTIL they escalate - it’s too late then!

DP and not a teacher...but I have family who are retired teachers, and this type of scenario has been playing out for YEARS.
My mom taught a kid back in the 80s, in elementary school, and even in 3rd grade, it was obvious he was a psychopath. There were documented incidents of physical abuse at school, including with both my mom, the principal, and other teachers...nothing was done, his family could not control him, the situation only got worse as the boy got older, and now he is facing life imprisonment for multiple homicides. Writing was on the wall from a young age, but nothing was done to get the kid help or protect those around him.

Sadly, after an incident with my child last month I have seen it firsthand. As a parent, of the victim of a known class behavioral issue, we have been given the runaround and “yes” we’ll take care of it. We only know of this students background through our child’s classmates and prior incidents. I agree these kids get worse as they age and ramp up behavior. We were told by the sheriff we have the right to pursue this as a misdemeanor assault. These kids are 11 years old!!! What is most disturbing, to me, is we have no right to know how it has been handles with parents of the child, what disciplinary action has been taken, or if our child is safe going forward. I don’t entirely blame the schools! I think a lot of this BS stems from lack of discipline at home and parents burying their head in the sand… especially if the child is a known problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Side note - the boy was wearing a skirt. A few students who knew him will tell you he did not identify as gender fluid, it was just something that was done as a distraction.

This.
Too many people too focused on trying to identify him as trans or gender fluid, when there is absolutely no evidence that was the case. It just serves as a political flashpoint to generate headlines and conservative outrage.
I went to high school in the 90s. A boy in my graduating class used to show up to school in a kilt on occasion. Not a Scot, not trans or gender fluid…just did it to get a response and attention.
I don’t care what he was wearing. I care that he raped 2 girls.

I wish this was highlighted more. The only people who mention gender-fluid are national media when talking about LCPS. The actually people who went to school with the rapist, his teachers, his family - never claimed that.

Its to distract from the fact that this boy belongs in prison.

I'm not sure about that. I agree that the boy belongs in prison and that, by all accounts, he was not gender-fluid. I still question whether leadership downplayed or was not transparent about the initial incident because there were reports that the boy may have been trans or gender-fluid and the attack occurred while the system was formulating the bathroom policy.

You know how when kids shoot up schools all these people come out and say “we knew something was off” and tons of prior reports are released? That’s like what happened here. When kids are involved, schools are SHOCKINGLY limited in what they can do no matter how troubling the behavior or actions or speech of that child. It’s like until they commit the crime, you can’t do a thing. I’m a teacher and we all know the kids who have giant files in counseling, the school psychologist, admin, and you just report report report knowing full well you can’t stop anything that might be coming, you’re only building the file. And this isn’t like it’s one bad principal. It’s the way the entire school systems and laws to protect minors are set up. Until they actually DO something, schools cannot take any real action against them. Then of course they do it and it’s too late. So no a “simple convo” wouldn’t have changed anything. A violent kid was in a school and no matter how many people knew he was a risk, nothing could be done until he was provably violent.

DP. I’m a teacher too. I agree with all of this but it’s worth pointing out that this kid had serious behavior issues including fights and highly disruptive behavior, per his mother, since kindergarten. I guarantee his teachers tried repeatedly to get him moved to a more restrictive setting before the first rape and the district refused.

Yes, exactly my point. We the teachers see and KNOW and we document our asses off. But we are told nothing can be done UNTIL they escalate - it’s too late then!

DP and not a teacher...but I have family who are retired teachers, and this type of scenario has been playing out for YEARS.
My mom taught a kid back in the 80s, in elementary school, and even in 3rd grade, it was obvious he was a psychopath. There were documented incidents of physical abuse at school, including with both my mom, the principal, and other teachers...nothing was done, his family could not control him, the situation only got worse as the boy got older, and now he is facing life imprisonment for multiple homicides. Writing was on the wall from a young age, but nothing was done to get the kid help or protect those around him.

Anonymous wrote:They downplayed it because the first girl had a “reputation”
and had had consensual sex with the boy.

I don't know if the girl had a "reputation" or not, but I do know LCPS plays games with the kids as pawns. For example, I personally witnessed horrible behavior from a child with prominent parents, antisocial and hostile. It was ignored. Consistently and repeatedly. Another child, well behaved but disliked by the teacher. This child was nitpicked over issues, labeled and packed off to the counselors.

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Anonymous wrote:so what are schools supposed to do with kids like this, whose own mother and grandmother warned the school about?

and when does this known sociopath get released?

Kids like this? you mean rapists?

My daughter goes to stone bridge, the "kid" should have been arrested after the first rape. No alternative school no "special needs" situation.

Jail then prison.

That is why more focus needs to be on the LCSO and not so much on the schools.

Mike Chapman is ultimately responsible for this. God awful sheriff. Partisan, corrupt, unprofessional. He should be strung up.

The first principal really downplayed it too. A girl has been raped and he’s busy yelling at the father while the rapist is at large in the school. He sucks.

Where did he yell at father? And we don’t know how the father presented himself. If he came in hollering about a kid in a skirt, of course they will go to the 8020. You are assuming everyone had all information at that time. Keep in mind the sheriff didn’t even charge the kid for two months after the incident.

My understanding is the father was (unsurprisingly) agitated when he learned his daughter was assaulted. The school called the Sheriff's Office on him. Not on the violent perpetrator of the assault, on the father.

I've heard the same. I believe it happened when the girl's parents initially went to the school (SBHS) after the first incident. This was way before the fight at the school board meeting.

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Anonymous wrote:so what are schools supposed to do with kids like this, whose own mother and grandmother warned the school about?

and when does this known sociopath get released?

Kids like this? you mean rapists?

My daughter goes to stone bridge, the "kid" should have been arrested after the first rape. No alternative school no "special needs" situation.

Jail then prison.

That is why more focus needs to be on the LCSO and not so much on the schools.

Mike Chapman is ultimately responsible for this. God awful sheriff. Partisan, corrupt, unprofessional. He should be strung up.

The first principal really downplayed it too. A girl has been raped and he’s busy yelling at the father while the rapist is at large in the school. He sucks.

Where did he yell at father? And we don’t know how the father presented himself. If he came in hollering about a kid in a skirt, of course they will go to the 8020. You are assuming everyone had all information at that time. Keep in mind the sheriff didn’t even charge the kid for two months after the incident.

My understanding is the father was (unsurprisingly) agitated when he learned his daughter was assaulted. The school called the Sheriff's Office on him. Not on the violent perpetrator of the assault, on the father.

They downplayed it because the first girl had a “reputation”
and had had consensual sex with the boy.