Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 08:01     Subject: Re:Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

How does one even know they are the wrong gender? Wouldn't you have to know what the fundamental nature of both genders are to know which you were supposed to be? If they have this information, can they share it with the rest of us?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 07:43     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


What is the point of religious schools other than indoctination? The mission statement is to turn out adherents to the faith. It's not like they say "wow, 24% of the graduating class is well adjusted existentialists , 6% chose Buddhism, 35% are agnostic but actively seeking..."

But back to transgender, none of my kids comes back from public school with the idea that they should actively think about transitioning. Nobody is forcing them to believe in the causes of transgenderism, what God thinks about transgenderism. There is no survey course for kids to pick out their gender identity. They are not indoctrinated. They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.

The right has contorted the notion of indoctrination in such a way that mere coexistence with a transgender child is explicit endorsement of that decision. So if you don't ostracize the transgender child, you are doing the work of the enemy.


My kids go to a Catholic school and it appears they are getting the same message as your children:
“They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.” The only difference is that I don’t know if there is a transgender child or not, but I do know the subject has come up twice recently in class (7th grade).

My child with questions both times, so I had the opportunity to ask what she has learned in school. There was no message against transgenderism; instead, there was a definition and a call for support. They were reminded that we are all important in God’s eyes, and all are worthy of support and respect.

Her school has a strong service-to-others focus. This is consistent with that goal.


From what you wrote, it sounds like it's anti-bullying more than anything. What would a message against 'transgenderism' look like? Saying that trans kids are abominations?


No, the message would be denying that trans kids and people exist.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 06:03     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


What is the point of religious schools other than indoctination? The mission statement is to turn out adherents to the faith. It's not like they say "wow, 24% of the graduating class is well adjusted existentialists , 6% chose Buddhism, 35% are agnostic but actively seeking..."

But back to transgender, none of my kids comes back from public school with the idea that they should actively think about transitioning. Nobody is forcing them to believe in the causes of transgenderism, what God thinks about transgenderism. There is no survey course for kids to pick out their gender identity. They are not indoctrinated. They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.

The right has contorted the notion of indoctrination in such a way that mere coexistence with a transgender child is explicit endorsement of that decision. So if you don't ostracize the transgender child, you are doing the work of the enemy.


My kids go to a Catholic school and it appears they are getting the same message as your children:
“They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.” The only difference is that I don’t know if there is a transgender child or not, but I do know the subject has come up twice recently in class (7th grade).

My child with questions both times, so I had the opportunity to ask what she has learned in school. There was no message against transgenderism; instead, there was a definition and a call for support. They were reminded that we are all important in God’s eyes, and all are worthy of support and respect.

Her school has a strong service-to-others focus. This is consistent with that goal.


From what you wrote, it sounds like it's anti-bullying more than anything. What would a message against 'transgenderism' look like? Saying that trans kids are abominations?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 05:56     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


What is the point of religious schools other than indoctination? The mission statement is to turn out adherents to the faith. It's not like they say "wow, 24% of the graduating class is well adjusted existentialists , 6% chose Buddhism, 35% are agnostic but actively seeking..."

But back to transgender, none of my kids comes back from public school with the idea that they should actively think about transitioning. Nobody is forcing them to believe in the causes of transgenderism, what God thinks about transgenderism. There is no survey course for kids to pick out their gender identity. They are not indoctrinated. They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.

The right has contorted the notion of indoctrination in such a way that mere coexistence with a transgender child is explicit endorsement of that decision. So if you don't ostracize the transgender child, you are doing the work of the enemy.


My kids go to a Catholic school and it appears they are getting the same message as your children:
“They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.” The only difference is that I don’t know if there is a transgender child or not, but I do know the subject has come up twice recently in class (7th grade).

My child with questions both times, so I had the opportunity to ask what she has learned in school. There was no message against transgenderism; instead, there was a definition and a call for support. They were reminded that we are all important in God’s eyes, and all are worthy of support and respect.

Her school has a strong service-to-others focus. This is consistent with that goal.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 00:18     Subject: Re:Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A teacher is Florida probably would be fired if they showed this video to their class. In a lot of Virginia school districts as well. This is the history and discussion that they are banning from classrooms.


But why should white kids in suburbia feel bad about that it's obviously just a random decision that was made not that it was a concerted effort to take houses from those who have the least amount of power within the system cuz you're sure as hell not going to take a wealthy white person's house.

But I'm sure that was the only route that made sense.


And the same random eminent domain decision coincidentally took out black business and residential districts in every city across the country. They were just randomly unlucky, over and over and over again. I-10 in New Orleans was worse than I-95 in Miami. Pretty much every city ran their freeways through the heart of their black communities. Path of least resistance, because resistance was futile.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 23:52     Subject: Re:Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:A teacher is Florida probably would be fired if they showed this video to their class. In a lot of Virginia school districts as well. This is the history and discussion that they are banning from classrooms.


But why should white kids in suburbia feel bad about that it's obviously just a random decision that was made not that it was a concerted effort to take houses from those who have the least amount of power within the system cuz you're sure as hell not going to take a wealthy white person's house.

But I'm sure that was the only route that made sense.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 23:29     Subject: Re:Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

A teacher is Florida probably would be fired if they showed this video to their class. In a lot of Virginia school districts as well. This is the history and discussion that they are banning from classrooms.

Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 23:17     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was some interesting rallies lately. Seems women are being attacked for, ironically, wanting women's right. How far we've fallen.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-activists-clash-nypd-during-let-women-speak-event-arrested

https://news.yahoo.com/pro-transgender-activists-attack-women-104943897.html


Yea, if there was ever an argument to be made for women-only spaces, that group just made it. Yikes!
https://reduxx.info/nyc-violent-trans-activists-arrested-during-pro-woman-demonstration/



I'm not even going to click on your funky link. Your statements are suspect when you have to drag the bottom of the media barrel to find something to support what you say.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 23:00     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:Was some interesting rallies lately. Seems women are being attacked for, ironically, wanting women's right. How far we've fallen.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-activists-clash-nypd-during-let-women-speak-event-arrested

https://news.yahoo.com/pro-transgender-activists-attack-women-104943897.html


Yea, if there was ever an argument to be made for women-only spaces, that group just made it. Yikes!
https://reduxx.info/nyc-violent-trans-activists-arrested-during-pro-woman-demonstration/
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 21:47     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Was some interesting rallies lately. Seems women are being attacked for, ironically, wanting women's right. How far we've fallen.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-activists-clash-nypd-during-let-women-speak-event-arrested

https://news.yahoo.com/pro-transgender-activists-attack-women-104943897.html
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 21:21     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:We've been reliably told by Republicans for the past year or two that the Dems should expect to be completely wiped out because:

1. Dems hate America and are pushing critical race theory in schools;
2. Dems have a transgender agenda and want children to have top/bottom surgery and for boys to play on girls teams;
3. Dems are too woke and they will be punished for their wokeism by everyone;
4. Moms everywhere are angry about covid restrictions and Dems will be punished.

However, Dems have not been wiped off the map and the major candidates pushing these narratives did not win.

Do you think the GOP will have a 'come to Jesus' moment and stop whining about these things after their candidates were not perceived as patriots but instead regarded as losers? Or do you think they will continue trying to peddle issues that no one is interested in buying?



It wasn't GOP whining... this reflects a lot of sentiments of the disenfranchised Democrats. GOP started leaning towards Christian nationalism too much, and this didn't help them win the votes of those who are truly pro-bodily autonomy and personal freedoms. Heavy religious leaning of the far right just like heavy collectivist leaning of the Dems makes it a tough choice for the moderates in general. The results are showing us that it's time to straighten the ship before it tips over. We need balance and not radicalism and division from both sides.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 17:17     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.


Your claim is that gender ideology is not being implemented in schools?

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/09/12/despite-law-few-virginia-school-districts-adopt-state-model-transgender-policies/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-national-school-psychologist-part-of-group-offering-to-pay-rehome-gay-kids-to-new-parents
https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/summary-report-on-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-the-schools/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email



Your problem is largely the "news" sources you quote. Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?

Second, what does it mean to "implement" an ideology?

Again, I don't think the links you posted prove your original post.


I didn't make the original post, I only replied to refute your assertation that gender ideology is categorically not being taught in schools, and saying otherwise is GOP fake news. The sources I posted fall across the political spectrum: right, left, and middle-ish.

Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?
It's not about what I am opposed to you, it's about your claim that gender ideology is not being taught in schools, which is false. In fact, there is plenty of source material that shows gender ideology is being taught in schools.

https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/stop-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools-archive-of-materials/



LOL, that's your unbiased source? For anyone wondering about the group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Declaration_International

That’s about what I expected from a group with that name.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 17:15     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.


Your claim is that gender ideology is not being implemented in schools?

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/09/12/despite-law-few-virginia-school-districts-adopt-state-model-transgender-policies/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-national-school-psychologist-part-of-group-offering-to-pay-rehome-gay-kids-to-new-parents
https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/summary-report-on-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-the-schools/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email



Your problem is largely the "news" sources you quote. Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?

Second, what does it mean to "implement" an ideology?

Again, I don't think the links you posted prove your original post.


I didn't make the original post, I only replied to refute your assertation that gender ideology is categorically not being taught in schools, and saying otherwise is GOP fake news. The sources I posted fall across the political spectrum: right, left, and middle-ish.

Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?
It's not about what I am opposed to you, it's about your claim that gender ideology is not being taught in schools, which is false. In fact, there is plenty of source material that shows gender ideology is being taught in schools.

https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/stop-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools-archive-of-materials/






LOL, that's your unbiased source? For anyone wondering about the group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Declaration_International


Nope, that is the left-leaning source. It appears that you have no response to the source materials and now you can agree that gender ideology is being taught in schools. Next time I'd suggest doing your research.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 16:39     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.


Your claim is that gender ideology is not being implemented in schools?

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/09/12/despite-law-few-virginia-school-districts-adopt-state-model-transgender-policies/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-national-school-psychologist-part-of-group-offering-to-pay-rehome-gay-kids-to-new-parents
https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/summary-report-on-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-the-schools/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email



Your problem is largely the "news" sources you quote. Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?

Second, what does it mean to "implement" an ideology?

Again, I don't think the links you posted prove your original post.


I didn't make the original post, I only replied to refute your assertation that gender ideology is categorically not being taught in schools, and saying otherwise is GOP fake news. The sources I posted fall across the political spectrum: right, left, and middle-ish.

Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?
It's not about what I am opposed to you, it's about your claim that gender ideology is not being taught in schools, which is false. In fact, there is plenty of source material that shows gender ideology is being taught in schools.

https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/stop-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools-archive-of-materials/






LOL, that's your unbiased source? For anyone wondering about the group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Declaration_International
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 16:36     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.


Your claim is that gender ideology is not being implemented in schools?

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/09/12/despite-law-few-virginia-school-districts-adopt-state-model-transgender-policies/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-national-school-psychologist-part-of-group-offering-to-pay-rehome-gay-kids-to-new-parents
https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/summary-report-on-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-the-schools/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email



Your problem is largely the "news" sources you quote. Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?

Second, what does it mean to "implement" an ideology?

Again, I don't think the links you posted prove your original post.


I didn't make the original post, I only replied to refute your assertation that gender ideology is categorically not being taught in schools, and saying otherwise is GOP fake news. The sources I posted fall across the political spectrum: right, left, and middle-ish.

Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?
It's not about what I am opposed to you, it's about your claim that gender ideology is not being taught in schools, which is false. In fact, there is plenty of source material that shows gender ideology is being taught in schools.

https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/stop-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools-archive-of-materials/