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Anonymous wrote:I was at a “Big” DC private for a couple years and no amount of “independence” made up for the other crap. First, there was no real independence. You were independent from state standards perhaps, but the school had its own self appointed curriculum “experts” and you had to stick to their framework. None of those experts had any real training or experience in curriculum development, so I’m not sure why they were qualified. The pay wasn’t great and admin had this ridiculous notion that teachers needed to be on campus u til at least 430, but preferably 5 every day, even though the school day ended around 3. The general feeling was that there was no way you could get your work done unless your butt was in your classroom or office chair. and of course we know that when you can’t live anywhere near your school, leaving at 3:45 is a completely different situation than leaving at 5 o’clock. There were days I did not get home until well after six, and I only lived 7 miles away.

So yeah, some freedom!

This is interesting because I teach in public but sometimes wonder if I should apply to private schools as perhaps the work would be easier.
There is so much extra stuff on teachers plates in public - special Ed. Accommodations and paperwork, ESL kids, state requirements that have to be fulfilled, classes to keep up certification, etc. Grading is a lot since we have a large number of students in public. The range of learners is also challenging. I work 6-7 days during the school year to keep up with everything but maybe it will get better once I cross year 5 of teaching. The long summer breaks at private schools seem enticing

Anonymous wrote:I was at a “Big” DC private for a couple years and no amount of “independence” made up for the other crap. First, there was no real independence. You were independent from state standards perhaps, but the school had its own self appointed curriculum “experts” and you had to stick to their framework. None of those experts had any real training or experience in curriculum development, so I’m not sure why they were qualified. The pay wasn’t great and admin had this ridiculous notion that teachers needed to be on campus u til at least 430, but preferably 5 every day, even though the school day ended around 3. The general feeling was that there was no way you could get your work done unless your butt was in your classroom or office chair. and of course we know that when you can’t live anywhere near your school, leaving at 3:45 is a completely different situation than leaving at 5 o’clock. There were days I did not get home until well after six, and I only lived 7 miles away.

So yeah, some freedom!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

And schools have yet to hit a ceiling above which there aren’t enough rich parents looking for the prestige of the “elite” schools who will pay anything for the privilege. Plus those schools are unwilling to draw a line and say they won’t add facilities or more concierge services so they can actually admit and enroll a more diverse set of kids who can’t pay such high tuition.

Those concierge services and such are further proof that for many/most Private Ed has little to do with actual education and everything to do with status.

Sure. So? There are plenty (in this area) parents who have the funds and will pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

And schools have yet to hit a ceiling above which there aren’t enough rich parents looking for the prestige of the “elite” schools who will pay anything for the privilege. Plus those schools are unwilling to draw a line and say they won’t add facilities or more concierge services so they can actually admit and enroll a more diverse set of kids who can’t pay such high tuition.

Those concierge services and such are further proof that for many/most Private Ed has little to do with actual education and everything to do with status.

Anonymous wrote:I was at a “Big” DC private for a couple years and no amount of “independence” made up for the other crap. First, there was no real independence. You were independent from state standards perhaps, but the school had its own self appointed curriculum “experts” and you had to stick to their framework. None of those experts had any real training or experience in curriculum development, so I’m not sure why they were qualified. The pay wasn’t great and admin had this ridiculous notion that teachers needed to be on campus u til at least 430, but preferably 5 every day, even though the school day ended around 3. The general feeling was that there was no way you could get your work done unless your butt was in your classroom or office chair. and of course we know that when you can’t live anywhere near your school, leaving at 3:45 is a completely different situation than leaving at 5 o’clock. There were days I did not get home until well after six, and I only lived 7 miles away.

So yeah, some freedom!

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

The higher the tuition goes, the more I’m aware of how difficult it is to earn the income to pay the tuition, the more I’m concerned about my children having access to the same options for their children, the more I pay attention to their development.

Competition and inequality is the societal issue, and yes, DC schools are a microcosm, but one parent or teacher or administrator cannot change the macroeconomic forces that causes everyone to suffer especially kids, who then suffer from anxiety and depression. I wonder who can

Sounds like you all richly deserve one another, since getting off the insane hamster wheel isn't even an option in your mind. All that money and less autonomy then many of the poorer folk out there. It's sadly comical.

Fair, but it’s a reality we all have to manage. In a highly competitive, capitalistic, highly unequal society, status / money / power go hand-in-hand while power / money and autonomy are inversely proportional. This was true during the reign of Elizabeth I, who was arguably in the 1% of the most powerful and least autonomous beings on the planet, and apparently now, Elizabeth II.

There is something about the word demeaning that rings a bell. I do believe the author of the previous post meant to somehow make me feel small by calling me or my struggles comical. It isn’t just those of us still on the wheel who try to make others feel small.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

The higher the tuition goes, the more I’m aware of how difficult it is to earn the income to pay the tuition, the more I’m concerned about my children having access to the same options for their children, the more I pay attention to their development.

Competition and inequality is the societal issue, and yes, DC schools are a microcosm, but one parent or teacher or administrator cannot change the macroeconomic forces that causes everyone to suffer especially kids, who then suffer from anxiety and depression. I wonder who can

Sounds like you all richly deserve one another, since getting off the insane hamster wheel isn't even an option in your mind. All that money and less autonomy then many of the poorer folk out there. It's sadly comical.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

The higher the tuition goes, the more I’m aware of how difficult it is to earn the income to pay the tuition, the more I’m concerned about my children having access to the same options for their children, the more I pay attention to their development.

Competition and inequality is the societal issue, and yes, DC schools are a microcosm, but one parent or teacher or administrator cannot change the macroeconomic forces that causes everyone to suffer especially kids, who then suffer from anxiety and depression. I wonder who can

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

And schools have yet to hit a ceiling above which there aren’t enough rich parents looking for the prestige of the “elite” schools who will pay anything for the privilege. Plus those schools are unwilling to draw a line and say they won’t add facilities or more concierge services so they can actually admit and enroll a more diverse set of kids who can’t pay such high tuition.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a private school administrator reading the comments about the disparity in admin costs vs teacher salaries. I think that administrations might be scaled in some areas, but not in the DC area.

We want to put most of our time and resources towards the students, but the parents require an incredible amount of personalized attention in this region. You're busy, so we ramp up communications to make your lives easier. You want to socialize with your fellow parents or fellow alumni, so we hold loads of events. You want the very best facilities, so fundraisers are needed. You want lots and lots of hand-holding through the college process, so we staff up there. You want every kind of club and program to help your child find their specific strength and build a resume around it, so we're always adding new opportunities.

The Head of School, any associate or assistant heads, any division heads had better be available around the clock. I got torn apart by a parent on the phone this summer because I didn't answer a message within 24 hours -- while I was on a family vacation after the worst 2 years of school in the history of school. A colleague gets endless calls from alumni who think something is too woke, and lots of calls from alumni who don't think the program is woke enough. The language you use with us is DEMEANING.

We're all ready to quit. Teachers and staff. There's no amount of money that makes this job worthwhile. Everything that is wrong in society right now feels amplified in the microcosm of school. And hell yes, the pandemic has had a lot to do with it. The only people who will stay are those who can't imagine any other job than one working with children. Let's hope that there are enough of them.

But it’s a vicious cycle. People expect a lot of attention because they are paying such large prices. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot. Parents demand a lot because schools charge a lot. Schools charge a lot because parents demand a lot….