Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:38
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.
Keep it up. You will lose.
Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.
Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.
Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.
Seriously. We have given many specific reasons. No one here has taken issue with the LGBTQ piece. I would still think the book and topic were too mature if the character were heterosexual and exploring heteronormative feelings and the school wanted my 11 year old to submit charts to the new English teacher labeling his gender identity and sexuality. Is nothing personal and private for adolescents and their families?
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:37
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
People who don't like Rick -- can you list some things you want to be on the reading list? Genuinely curious.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:32
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
All bigots hate when you call them bigots. You’re being so defensive because deep down, you know it’s true. So many people keep feeling the need to label themselves “liberals” before they begin a rant fueled by absolute ignorance. Newsflash: the world is different from when you were in school. Try and keep up. Evolve with the rest of the civilized world.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:27
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.
Keep it up. You will lose.
DP
Well, they are winning with that strategy so far. Because it works. It’s basically impossible for parents to express concerns without being labeled bigots or anti-LGBQT+. And it works well because the book will continue to be taught in schools, regardless of how parents feel.
So, I guess… why wouldn’t they infinite with the same effective strategy of shutting down opposing viewpoints.
They are bullies.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:22
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
No. That’s nonsense.
It’s not anti-LGBQT to ask questions about why MCPS is forcing books like this on our 11 year old children.
Books like what? What, exactly, is wrong with the book? Have you read it?
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:21
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.
Keep it up. You will lose.
DP
Well, they are winning with that strategy so far. Because it works. It’s basically impossible for parents to express concerns without being labeled bigots or anti-LGBQT+. And it works well because the book will continue to be taught in schools, regardless of how parents feel.
So, I guess… why wouldn’t they infinite with the same effective strategy of shutting down opposing viewpoints.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:19
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
No. That’s nonsense.
It’s not anti-LGBQT to ask questions about why MCPS is forcing books like this on our 11 year old children.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:16
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
No wonder teachers are leaving the profession in droves. If I had to deal with hysterical parents like the majority of this thread, on a daily basis I’d quit in a heartbeat.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:15
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Once again, gender identity does not equal sexuality.
If only these posters read this book, they might understand this.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:09
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.
Keep it up. You will lose.
Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.
Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.
Have you even read the thread? I've posted several times and so have others. What a waste of time since you don't actually want reasons.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 13:08
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Exactly, this whole thread feels like a big troll just to stir up trouble.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 12:58
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I and many other parents will not budge from the position that it is not the role of public schools to discuss sexuality with my kids. That is a parent’s job. Full stop. End.
As a separate issue, this creates risk. In high school I had a teacher discuss dating and relations with me, basically he was interested. Thank god my parents got involved. He dated a barely out of high school friend of mine later.
So we need to remove health classes from middle school, too?
There is a difference between discussing things in Health class (which families can opt out of) and forcing kids to read and identify their sexuality for English class.
Where do you see that they are forcing kids to identify their sexuality?
Slide 13: “After creating your identity chart and responding to the reflection questions about gender identity, please choose one of the following questions to discuss…”
Here is the entire prompt. it doesn't ask the student to share anything with the school, and it doesn't ask the kid to identify themselves. it also doesn't even mention sexuality.
"After creating your identity chart and responding to the reflection question about gender identity, please choose one of the following questions to discuss with a friend or family member about gender identity.
What aspects of people’s identities might stay the same for their whole lives? What aspects might change?
What aspects of people’s identities might always feel very central to who they are? What aspects might be less important in different situations?
What aspects of people’s identities might be labels that others put on them? "
Are you kidding me??? I can't imagine asking an 11 year old to do a thing like that IN SCHOOL. How ridiculous.
+1
This is not ok for middle.
How can you say it’s not okay when you don’t even know what kids are being asked to do?
Anonymous
07/29/2022 12:47
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.
Keep it up. You will lose.
Nobody is making any arguments beyond a vague “it’s wrong.” No one will explain what exactly they are afraid will happen. People raise these bogeymen of supposedly inappropriate reading questions or class discussions, and then conveniently disappear when asked to provide more information to explain why it was inappropriate.
Here’s a clue - when your position requires withholding relevant information so it can’t be challenged, your position is probably wrong.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 12:47
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I and many other parents will not budge from the position that it is not the role of public schools to discuss sexuality with my kids. That is a parent’s job. Full stop. End.
As a separate issue, this creates risk. In high school I had a teacher discuss dating and relations with me, basically he was interested. Thank god my parents got involved. He dated a barely out of high school friend of mine later.
So we need to remove health classes from middle school, too?
There is a difference between discussing things in Health class (which families can opt out of) and forcing kids to read and identify their sexuality for English class.
Where do you see that they are forcing kids to identify their sexuality?
Slide 13: “After creating your identity chart and responding to the reflection questions about gender identity, please choose one of the following questions to discuss…”
Here is the entire prompt. it doesn't ask the student to share anything with the school, and it doesn't ask the kid to identify themselves. it also doesn't even mention sexuality.
"After creating your identity chart and responding to the reflection question about gender identity, please choose one of the following questions to discuss with a friend or family member about gender identity.
What aspects of people’s identities might stay the same for their whole lives? What aspects might change?
What aspects of people’s identities might always feel very central to who they are? What aspects might be less important in different situations?
What aspects of people’s identities might be labels that others put on them? "
Are you kidding me??? I can't imagine asking an 11 year old to do a thing like that IN SCHOOL. How ridiculous.
+1
This is not ok for middle.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 12:45
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The social warriors are strong in this thread!
And they will never let go of their anti-LGBTQ+ agenda.
Keep willfully ignoring every argument made on this thread. Keep telling yourself the other side has no real argument and is only anti-LGBTQ, even though posters keep saying that is NOT their issue.
Keep it up. You will lose.