Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 19:59     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:This article in the American Conservative (!!) about the deleterious effects of corn and seed oils is extremely disturbing and makes me want to make everything from scratch (not that I have the time to do so):

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/seed-oils-and-bad-science/

Really, really bad for our collective health.


Thanks for the link. The bit about US baby formula was startling.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 16:17     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
This article in the American Conservative (!!) about the deleterious effects of corn and seed oils is extremely disturbing and makes me want to make everything from scratch (not that I have the time to do so):

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/seed-oils-and-bad-science/

Really, really bad for our collective health.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 11:18     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
That Today article about rising liver disease in children due to PFAS exposure in the womb is chilling. We need political will to get PFAS and other endocrine disruptors out of our food and water supply. These chemicals are making us fat and sick. We need representatives who work for human health and safety, not the profits of their corporate donors. Talk about protecting fetuses! Maybe not letting them be poisoned by the chemical lobby would be a start.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 10:50     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


DP: “generally recognized as safe” is not terribly reassuring. I, personally, view MSG the same way that I view salt. It might be harmless for most people, but making a conscious effort to reduce them in my diet will have way more benefits for me than risks.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 10:18     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


Look, it can be both. I think a lot of the anti-MSG hysteria was rooted in racism. However, I also think the quantities in which it was added to US food exceed how it was used in Asia, and in those large quantities it could be harmful. There is a huge difference between a home cook in Asia adding a little MSG to a homecooked meal and the way it is used in processed restaurant food in the US.


And your evidence of that is what? A hunch?
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 09:23     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/


Look, it can be both. I think a lot of the anti-MSG hysteria was rooted in racism. However, I also think the quantities in which it was added to US food exceed how it was used in Asia, and in those large quantities it could be harmful. There is a huge difference between a home cook in Asia adding a little MSG to a homecooked meal and the way it is used in processed restaurant food in the US.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 09:17     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Food laden with MSG, salt, dependency on alcohol, sodas, obsession with all things dairy, carbs, inactivity


Oh now we’re blaming MSG? What a joke

You think it’s good for you?


I don't think its bad for me. There is ample evidence that negative health effects from MSG is myth. A myth that originated from racism against asians.
Is MSG safe?

The Cleveland Clinic:

MSG been used as a flavor enhancer in since the early 1900s, but it started to get a bad rap in the late 1960s. Suddenly, MSG was said to be associated with all kinds of health issues, and for a while, it was branded a “toxic” ingredient.

Now, though, most of those myths have been dispelled, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says MSG is “generally recognized as safe.” Global food-regulating bodies like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) agree.

Still, MSG continues to be a controversial ingredient, in part due to a longstanding stigma against it and a lack of conclusive data about it.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/is-msg-really-harmful/
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 08:06     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Terrible food growing practices

Inflammatory seed oils
HFCs (worse than glucose for obesity)
Hormone disruptors environment
Nutritionally depleted soils
Poor gut health
Large portions
Antibiotics in soil animal feed etc
Pesticide use
Frequent snacking all day long


All of this contributes to an unhealthy diet.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 01:24     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been a personal trainer for 22 years. I also have a background in nutrition. There is nothing in our foods causing weight gain. People are simply eating too much and moving too little. It’s that’s simple.


Perhaps you can also explain the rise in obesity that has been noted in some animals— including some lab animals, whose environments and diets are strictly controlled. Are the marmosets “simply eating too much and moving too little” too? What about the urban and rural feral rats?

Here’s a critical point. If there’s a “simple” and accurate explanation, it would be great if you could share it.


"If the number of calories going in is the same over time, and there's a net gain, then obviously the way those calories are managed is different or something has changed," Kuk said. "Why that management of calories is changing is going to be important if we're going to reverse the trends."


https://www.livescience.com/10277-obesity-rise-animals.html






I did not know animals were getting fat. Obesogens in the environment, thanks Rs. Microplastics, antibiotics, plastics and chemicals, all for profit. Did they think they could outrun the effects? The streams in Aspen also contain microplastics, as does the blood of their babies and children.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 01:20     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:I am with you OP. I developed IBD after moving to the US in my 20s and always feel much healtier when in Europe, even though my diet on vacation is less controlled. I think noise pollution might be part of the problem. Even the middle of the night in the suburbs here is louder than the middle of the night in a big European city, due to loud nearby roads, neighbors’ loud AC, etc. I am not sure how noise affects weight but I know for sure it affects my mental health and therefore probably also my gut.


The giant pickups are so loud, as well as the modified street racing cars and motorcycles. Why is there no noise enforcement?
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 00:59     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Twitter poster here again. Just saw this on twitter:

https://twitter.com/porkchop_exp/status/1546818434931064833?s=21&t=sNBPAXaotWJeZRLllfBoAQ

It starts with the following:

I am very hesitant to assign obesity in the US to lifestyle.

Something is DEEPLY wrong with their food quality.

You know this because Europeans immediately gain weight in the US without changing their eating habits and lose the weight just as easily when back in Europe.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2022 22:56     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Coincidentally this scary article just got promoted to me:


https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna37328


This is a lot to take in!

Thanks for the link, OP, and for posing your original question.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2022 22:43     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:I am with you OP. I developed IBD after moving to the US in my 20s and always feel much healtier when in Europe, even though my diet on vacation is less controlled. I think noise pollution might be part of the problem. Even the middle of the night in the suburbs here is louder than the middle of the night in a big European city, due to loud nearby roads, neighbors’ loud AC, etc. I am not sure how noise affects weight but I know for sure it affects my mental health and therefore probably also my gut.


That’s interesting. I think you’re on to something. Noise pollution is stressful, and stress, with an accompanying increase in cortisol, is linked to increases in insulin and weight. Poor sleep is also a risk factor for weight gain. I wonder if light “pollution “ might be a factor worth looking at as well.



Anonymous
Post 07/12/2022 22:35     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:Carbonation, including carbonated water.

Studies in rats show that drinking carbonated beverages, even non--caloric ones, increases the production of the hormone ghrelin, which is problematic for a number of reasons, but most relevant to this discussion, it causes the body to store fat for energy (increases adiposity). It also increases hunger and fails to satisfy thirst (which is why fast food restaurants serve giant carbonated beverages).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136335/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4049314/


Thank you so much for posting this. I chug Perrier all day. It started as a replacement for the Pepsi I was constantly drinking. I’ve been struggling with my appetite more than I think I should be - so I’m going to cut out the Perrier and substitute it for flat water and see what happens!
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2022 22:35     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been a personal trainer for 22 years. I also have a background in nutrition. There is nothing in our foods causing weight gain. People are simply eating too much and moving too little. It’s that’s simple.


Perhaps you can also explain the rise in obesity that has been noted in some animals— including some lab animals, whose environments and diets are strictly controlled. Are the marmosets “simply eating too much and moving too little” too? What about the urban and rural feral rats?

Here’s a critical point. If there’s a “simple” and accurate explanation, it would be great if you could share it.


"If the number of calories going in is the same over time, and there's a net gain, then obviously the way those calories are managed is different or something has changed," Kuk said. "Why that management of calories is changing is going to be important if we're going to reverse the trends."


https://www.livescience.com/10277-obesity-rise-animals.html