Anonymous
07/14/2022 18:48
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:74% of American undergraduates are over 25 years old.
https://eu.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2018/10/03/adult-older-nontraditional-college-students-louisiana/1504180002/
Claiming that a 20 year old would feel out of place shows ignorance of the actual college landscape.
You do realize that "American undergraduates" include people going to school in the evenings while working during the day. If you just look at students going to college full-time and living in dorms, you'd see that an undergraduate over 21 is pretty rare, as is a freshman over 18.
If a kid's birthday is in February, and they start Kindergarten at age 5, they turn 6 in February of Kindergarten. They turn 18 in February of their senior year of high school. They turn 22 in their senior year of college. Not at all "pretty rare." Assuming a typical 4 year college experience, they only people that will NOT be 22 when they graduate will be those with birthdays in May-August.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:26
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
But teachers and colleges don't view it that way. No college is going to look at an 18-year-old's application and go "Well, I know this student is the most qualified candidate, but they're also a year older than the other applicants. If they were in their age appropriate cohort, they probably wouldn't be the top applicant."
On time college applicants born between the day after cut off (e.b. Oct 1) and the date the application is submitted are 18. They are in their age appropriate cohort.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:13
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Are you always an unclever idiot?
DP. I thought it was spot on and hilarious.
Antiredshirters can’t do math. And have no humor.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:11
Subject: Re:8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When is kindergarten cut off date in the DMV area?
It used to be Dec 31 but in recent years it's Aug 31.
In VA, it’s 9/30.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:11
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:DS will be a senior in HS this fall and has a "friend" who is currently 20. I say friend because they are on the same sports team but he doesn't hang out with him because he's known to be a bit of a troublemaker.
He was redshirted and then failed either 3rd or 4th grade, I can't remember. So he'll turn 21 the summer before going to college. If he goes to college, that'll be an interesting dynamic in the dorms. An 18 yo with a 21 yo who can legally buy all the alcohol anyone wants.
If he failed 3rd grade is he really going to a good school?
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:11
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Are you always an unclever idiot?
Sorry your feelings were hurt. You're not as interesting as you think.
The irony of you.
When you have no coherent argument, resort to name calling.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:10
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
I thought my point was pretty straightforward. If you win a competition unfairly, the person who deserved to win won't.
If you play by the rules then it is fair. Who makes the rules? You or the school?
The rules are what the cut-offs are.
So everyone redshirting their kid is doing it illegally?
Why aren’t these kids being arrested?
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:09
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
I thought my point was pretty straightforward. If you win a competition unfairly, the person who deserved to win won't.
If you play by the rules then it is fair. Who makes the rules? You or the school?
The rules are what the cut-offs are.
So why do schools allow redshirting? If they allow it, those are the rules.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 16:00
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Are you always an unclever idiot?
Sorry your feelings were hurt. You're not as interesting as you think.
The irony of you.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 15:56
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
I thought my point was pretty straightforward. If you win a competition unfairly, the person who deserved to win won't.
If you play by the rules then it is fair. Who makes the rules? You or the school?
The rules are what the cut-offs are.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 15:51
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:DS will be a senior in HS this fall and has a "friend" who is currently 20. I say friend because they are on the same sports team but he doesn't hang out with him because he's known to be a bit of a troublemaker.
He was redshirted and then failed either 3rd or 4th grade, I can't remember. So he'll turn 21 the summer before going to college. If he goes to college, that'll be an interesting dynamic in the dorms. An 18 yo with a 21 yo who can legally buy all the alcohol anyone wants.
He probably lied about his age because he had parents who suddenly became disabled when he was in 10th grade, and thus had to do things that only an adult would be allowed to do.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 15:50
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:74% of American undergraduates are over 25 years old.
https://eu.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2018/10/03/adult-older-nontraditional-college-students-louisiana/1504180002/
Claiming that a 20 year old would feel out of place shows ignorance of the actual college landscape.
You do realize that "American undergraduates" include people going to school in the evenings while working during the day. If you just look at students going to college full-time and living in dorms, you'd see that an undergraduate over 21 is pretty rare, as is a freshman over 18.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 10:07
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
74% of American undergraduates are over 25 years old.
https://eu.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2018/10/03/adult-older-nontraditional-college-students-louisiana/1504180002/
Claiming that a 20 year old would feel out of place shows ignorance of the actual college landscape.
https://eu.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2018/10/03/adult-older-nontraditional-college-students-louisiana/1504180002/
Claiming that a 20 year old would feel out of place shows ignorance of the actual college landscape.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 09:39
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
DS will be a senior in HS this fall and has a "friend" who is currently 20. I say friend because they are on the same sports team but he doesn't hang out with him because he's known to be a bit of a troublemaker.
He was redshirted and then failed either 3rd or 4th grade, I can't remember. So he'll turn 21 the summer before going to college. If he goes to college, that'll be an interesting dynamic in the dorms. An 18 yo with a 21 yo who can legally buy all the alcohol anyone wants.
He was redshirted and then failed either 3rd or 4th grade, I can't remember. So he'll turn 21 the summer before going to college. If he goes to college, that'll be an interesting dynamic in the dorms. An 18 yo with a 21 yo who can legally buy all the alcohol anyone wants.
Anonymous
07/14/2022 09:20
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Are you always an unclever idiot?
Sorry your feelings were hurt. You're not as interesting as you think.