Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread with no links and frankly something a drop in the bucket. Frankly it’s racist to insult the people of Ukraine like this.
18 pages.
All that OP had to do was to check for countries requiring a visa to enter EU. Ukraine just needs a passport. India and many African countries need a passport and a visa. It’s right there - in black and white.
“ According to Bagui Sylla, the Ukrainian border guards said they were merely following instructions from their Polish counterparts – a claim denied by officials in Warsaw. Anna Michalska, a spokesperson for the Polish border guards, said she had spent “the past two days denying such allegations”.
“I don’t know what is happening on the Ukrainian side of the border, but we let everyone in regardless of nationality,” she told FRANCE 24.
Polish officials confirmed that no visas were required to cross the border and that identity cards and passports would be accepted, even when expired”
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border
You need to find out exactly when the emergency order of no visas were issued. In the early days of the invasion, border control authorities were following the policy in place. As it always happens in war, I am pretty sure everyone including border guards were confused about the new emergency order.
Much of the claims made by OP were debunked long ago in this thread. I'm baffled why it's still going on.
Nothing was debunked. I like how the news people say these are blond blue eyed people, not afghans. /s
Except for the news people who pointed out that there were people of color being taken. The issue wasn't about race.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think liberals are gonna be surprised when after the war they realize that Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Hungary aren’t suddenly gonna turn into neoliberal racially englightened places.
It’ll be funny to watch.
This.
Ukraine’s armed forces are full of neo-nazis and these neo-nazis have popular support. But that doesn’t matter because Ukraine is 100% good and Russia is 100% bad right now per American propaganda. Just like how the mujahideen of Afghanistan were cast as brave freedom fighters in the 80s. Americans never learn.
Note the 2018 date of this Reuters article warning about Ukraine’s neo-nazi problem. What is now being called Russian disinformation is a very real problem with white nationalists and nazis that has long been known: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY
Anonymous wrote:I think liberals are gonna be surprised when after the war they realize that Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Hungary aren’t suddenly gonna turn into neoliberal racially englightened places.
It’ll be funny to watch.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread with no links and frankly something a drop in the bucket. Frankly it’s racist to insult the people of Ukraine like this.
18 pages.
All that OP had to do was to check for countries requiring a visa to enter EU. Ukraine just needs a passport. India and many African countries need a passport and a visa. It’s right there - in black and white.
“ According to Bagui Sylla, the Ukrainian border guards said they were merely following instructions from their Polish counterparts – a claim denied by officials in Warsaw. Anna Michalska, a spokesperson for the Polish border guards, said she had spent “the past two days denying such allegations”.
“I don’t know what is happening on the Ukrainian side of the border, but we let everyone in regardless of nationality,” she told FRANCE 24.
Polish officials confirmed that no visas were required to cross the border and that identity cards and passports would be accepted, even when expired”
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border
You need to find out exactly when the emergency order of no visas were issued. In the early days of the invasion, border control authorities were following the policy in place. As it always happens in war, I am pretty sure everyone including border guards were confused about the new emergency order.
Much of the claims made by OP were debunked long ago in this thread. I'm baffled why it's still going on.
Nothing was debunked. I like how the news people say these are blond blue eyed people, not afghans. /s
Anonymous wrote:Speaking as an African, I was done with Ukraine when I saw videos from people I know are real Africans in Ukraine trying to get out. To be able to make time for racism at a life and death circumstances speaks of such a monstrous nature that I no longer have any problem with what Putin is up to over there. I’m not sparing Ukraine a single thought beyond this post.
So one wrong makes another wrong right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as an African, I was done with Ukraine when I saw videos from people I know are real Africans in Ukraine trying to get out. To be able to make time for racism at a life and death circumstances speaks of such a monstrous nature that I no longer have any problem with what Putin is up to over there. I’m not sparing Ukraine a single thought beyond this post.
Wow. Imagine if we felt the same way about Africans the way you feel about Ukrainians? No African country would be worthy if we didn’t help because their citizens are racist! The whole modern history of Africa is story after story of one ethnic group trying to kill another.
I suspect you may just be spreading propaganda.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread with no links and frankly something a drop in the bucket. Frankly it’s racist to insult the people of Ukraine like this.
18 pages.
All that OP had to do was to check for countries requiring a visa to enter EU. Ukraine just needs a passport. India and many African countries need a passport and a visa. It’s right there - in black and white.
“ According to Bagui Sylla, the Ukrainian border guards said they were merely following instructions from their Polish counterparts – a claim denied by officials in Warsaw. Anna Michalska, a spokesperson for the Polish border guards, said she had spent “the past two days denying such allegations”.
“I don’t know what is happening on the Ukrainian side of the border, but we let everyone in regardless of nationality,” she told FRANCE 24.
Polish officials confirmed that no visas were required to cross the border and that identity cards and passports would be accepted, even when expired”
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border
You need to find out exactly when the emergency order of no visas were issued. In the early days of the invasion, border control authorities were following the policy in place. As it always happens in war, I am pretty sure everyone including border guards were confused about the new emergency order.
Much of the claims made by OP were debunked long ago in this thread. I'm baffled why it's still going on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread with no links and frankly something a drop in the bucket. Frankly it’s racist to insult the people of Ukraine like this.
18 pages.
All that OP had to do was to check for countries requiring a visa to enter EU. Ukraine just needs a passport. India and many African countries need a passport and a visa. It’s right there - in black and white.
“ According to Bagui Sylla, the Ukrainian border guards said they were merely following instructions from their Polish counterparts – a claim denied by officials in Warsaw. Anna Michalska, a spokesperson for the Polish border guards, said she had spent “the past two days denying such allegations”.
“I don’t know what is happening on the Ukrainian side of the border, but we let everyone in regardless of nationality,” she told FRANCE 24.
Polish officials confirmed that no visas were required to cross the border and that identity cards and passports would be accepted, even when expired”
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border
You need to find out exactly when the emergency order of no visas were issued. In the early days of the invasion, border control authorities were following the policy in place. As it always happens in war, I am pretty sure everyone including border guards were confused about the new emergency order.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as an African, I was done with Ukraine when I saw videos from people I know are real Africans in Ukraine trying to get out. To be able to make time for racism at a life and death circumstances speaks of such a monstrous nature that I no longer have any problem with what Putin is up to over there. I’m not sparing Ukraine a single thought beyond this post.
Wow. Imagine if we felt the same way about Africans the way you feel about Ukrainians? No African country would be worthy if we didn’t help because their citizens are racist! The whole modern history of Africa is story after story of one ethnic group trying to kill another.
I suspect you may just be spreading propaganda.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread with no links and frankly something a drop in the bucket. Frankly it’s racist to insult the people of Ukraine like this.
18 pages.
All that OP had to do was to check for countries requiring a visa to enter EU. Ukraine just needs a passport. India and many African countries need a passport and a visa. It’s right there - in black and white.
“ According to Bagui Sylla, the Ukrainian border guards said they were merely following instructions from their Polish counterparts – a claim denied by officials in Warsaw. Anna Michalska, a spokesperson for the Polish border guards, said she had spent “the past two days denying such allegations”.
“I don’t know what is happening on the Ukrainian side of the border, but we let everyone in regardless of nationality,” she told FRANCE 24.
Polish officials confirmed that no visas were required to cross the border and that identity cards and passports would be accepted, even when expired”
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border
Speaking as an African, I was done with Ukraine when I saw videos from people I know are real Africans in Ukraine trying to get out. To be able to make time for racism at a life and death circumstances speaks of such a monstrous nature that I no longer have any problem with what Putin is up to over there. I’m not sparing Ukraine a single thought beyond this post.
Speaking as an African, I was done with Ukraine when I saw videos from people I know are real Africans in Ukraine trying to get out. To be able to make time for racism at a life and death circumstances speaks of such a monstrous nature that I no longer have any problem with what Putin is up to over there. I’m not sparing Ukraine a single thought beyond this post.
Anonymous wrote:Speaking as an African, I was done with Ukraine when I saw videos from people I know are real Africans in Ukraine trying to get out. To be able to make time for racism at a life and death circumstances speaks of such a monstrous nature that I no longer have any problem with what Putin is up to over there. I’m not sparing Ukraine a single thought beyond this post.