Anonymous
08/02/2022 14:13
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Six months after former Dolphins coach Brian Flores accused team owner Stephen Ross of essentially bribing him to lose games for a better draft position, the NFL has temporarily stripped Miami of both Ross and premium draft picks, NFL Media reports. Commissioner Roger Goodell informed the franchise Tuesday that a league investigation found Ross at least hinted at prioritizing draft picks over a winning record in 2019, and that he impermissibly had repeated communications with both Tom Brady and Sean Payton while trying to recruit the big names to his team. As a result, Ross has been fined $1.5 million and suspended through Oct. 17, while the Dolphins must forfeit their 2023 first-round pick and 2024 third-round pick for "violating the integrity of the game."
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-suspends-dolphins-owner-strips-team-of-2023-first-rounder-for-tom-brady-sean-payton-tampering/?fbclid=IwAR2hPHt3wi3W5yHapQkK3z8_lA96B0Z_AR-NiV8ecaaOdR6970vqx9Mfwyo&mibextid=FrZHod&fs=e&s=cl
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-suspends-dolphins-owner-strips-team-of-2023-first-rounder-for-tom-brady-sean-payton-tampering/?fbclid=IwAR2hPHt3wi3W5yHapQkK3z8_lA96B0Z_AR-NiV8ecaaOdR6970vqx9Mfwyo&mibextid=FrZHod&fs=e&s=cl
Anonymous
04/07/2022 20:44
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pre-selection is a problem in every single job I've ever seen in business and government. In fact, I've rarely seen an open and fair process. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean it's due to racial discrimination either.
+1000. Cronyism, not racism, happens more in hiring than anything else.
Can you really not see the connection between those two things?
They see what they want to see, you know that.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 16:03
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Includes this from an interview with former Tennessee HC Mike Mularkey:
Anonymous
Anonymous
02/09/2022 11:40
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Boston College would never do it when Jeff Hafley hits 9 wins and leaves, but they would be very smart to hire Flores, an alum, for the HC gig when it opens again. He's obviously proven his bona fides in the NFL, not just as a winning HC but in player development and in game planning. He knows how to run a quality NFL team, and can train his players and show them what they need to prove to NFL scouts and evaluators. The question would be could he swallow dealing with the morass of college football recruiting.
His advantage there would be authenticity. He could walk into a recruit's living room and say truthfully that he has put other people's interests ahead of his own. He's done so specifically for Black coaches and Black players. He can say he'll do right by each player to give them their best opportunity to reach the NFL. So long as he delegates well for the day-to-day recruiting efforts, he can focus on reinforcing a culture of accountability, with an added "in" due to his record of true commitment to racial justice.
His advantage there would be authenticity. He could walk into a recruit's living room and say truthfully that he has put other people's interests ahead of his own. He's done so specifically for Black coaches and Black players. He can say he'll do right by each player to give them their best opportunity to reach the NFL. So long as he delegates well for the day-to-day recruiting efforts, he can focus on reinforcing a culture of accountability, with an added "in" due to his record of true commitment to racial justice.
Anonymous
02/09/2022 08:38
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pre-selection is a problem in every single job I've ever seen in business and government. In fact, I've rarely seen an open and fair process. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean it's due to racial discrimination either.
+1000. Cronyism, not racism, happens more in hiring than anything else.
Can you really not see the connection between those two things?
There sometimes can be a connection,….but not all of the time. If six people apply for one job, and two of them are minorities, and the employer ends up hiring his best buddy from high school (who happens to be white), that leaves five applicants who may or may not have been as qualified out of a job…..because of cronyism.
And where do you think those friendships among the white and wealthy begin. In places such as elite private schools, where black people have been systemically excluded from
Anonymous
02/08/2022 19:07
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pre-selection is a problem in every single job I've ever seen in business and government. In fact, I've rarely seen an open and fair process. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean it's due to racial discrimination either.
+1000. Cronyism, not racism, happens more in hiring than anything else.
Can you really not see the connection between those two things?
There sometimes can be a connection,….but not all of the time. If six people apply for one job, and two of them are minorities, and the employer ends up hiring his best buddy from high school (who happens to be white), that leaves five applicants who may or may not have been as qualified out of a job…..because of cronyism.
DP. This is why the disparate impact angle noted previously is important. A plaintiff at not be able to proved a racist intent in any particular hiring decision (ie, disparate treatment), but with enough data over a long enough period of time showing a clear pattern of racial minorities being consistently denied opportunities in favor of white men can prove disparate impact, which is also actionable.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 19:04
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pre-selection is a problem in every single job I've ever seen in business and government. In fact, I've rarely seen an open and fair process. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean it's due to racial discrimination either.
+1000. Cronyism, not racism, happens more in hiring than anything else.
Can you really not see the connection between those two things?
There sometimes can be a connection,….but not all of the time. If six people apply for one job, and two of them are minorities, and the employer ends up hiring his best buddy from high school (who happens to be white), that leaves five applicants who may or may not have been as qualified out of a job…..because of cronyism.
Anonymous
02/08/2022 18:15
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pre-selection is a problem in every single job I've ever seen in business and government. In fact, I've rarely seen an open and fair process. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean it's due to racial discrimination either.
+1000. Cronyism, not racism, happens more in hiring than anything else.
Can you really not see the connection between those two things?
Anonymous
02/08/2022 17:56
Subject: Re:Brian Flores lawsuit alleging racism in NFL
Anonymous wrote:Pre-selection is a problem in every single job I've ever seen in business and government. In fact, I've rarely seen an open and fair process. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean it's due to racial discrimination either.
+1000. Cronyism, not racism, happens more in hiring than anything else.