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Anonymous wrote:There needs to be a way to combat misinformation. Especially when science and facts are concerned. Yes, you should be able to talk about how you don't like those facts but ultimately facts do not care whether you like them or not.
People don't need to like certain things, but it doesn't make them less true. I wish there was a warning label saying these are the facts. Everything you're about to hear is a person's opinion about those facts.

The warning label should be your education. And we need better tools to detect animalistic misinformation driven by malicious actors. But there will always be podcasters spouting bs on every topic and the content providers should not be in the business of fact policing it.

Anomalistic*

Anonymous wrote:There needs to be a way to combat misinformation. Especially when science and facts are concerned. Yes, you should be able to talk about how you don't like those facts but ultimately facts do not care whether you like them or not.
People don't need to like certain things, but it doesn't make them less true. I wish there was a warning label saying these are the facts. Everything you're about to hear is a person's opinion about those facts.

The warning label should be your education. And we need better tools to detect animalistic misinformation driven by malicious actors. But there will always be podcasters spouting bs on every topic and the content providers should not be in the business of fact policing it.

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Anonymous wrote:No! Because it is a free country and he has a right to his opinions and thoughts as I do as well. He has a following and a platform so be it. And I have a right to simply disagree with him and move on with my life and yet continue to enjoy the perfect playlists spotify curates for me. Somehow I have managed to co-exist -dare I say even successfully ignore- quite peacefully with someone I completely disagree with.

His loss of a platform on Spotify does not mean he'd lose his opinions and thoughts.
It would just make it harder for him to influence people . Meanwhile, you are facillitating the spread of misinformation that is killing people. Heck, you might even get turned down for an emergency surgery because the hospitals are full of sick antivaxxers who take their advice from Joe Rogan.

Have you guys ever actually listened to his podcasts, or are you just getting info from CNN and/or your friends on Facebook? I'll admit that I was curious, so listened to the one he did w/ the local VA doctor. It was actually pretty good and fair, and the doctor several times pushed back on the stuff Rogan was saying. I dunno. Nothing dangerous about asking questions. I don't quite get this mob mentality going after stuff like this. You don't think critical thinking and conversation is important?

It's weird how the "critical thinking" only applies one way, towards the doctors who tell you things that you don't want to hear because they create inconveniences for you, and yet you never practice "critical thinking" on what Rogan says or "asks".

It’s weird that you’re comparing listening to doctors to listening to a guy who used to eat worms on Fear Factor.

Anonymous wrote:Anybody cancel their Spotify account after they chose to provide a platform antivaxxer Joe Rogan?

Nope - will I ever, in a million years, listen to Rogan? Again, Nope. I don't actually listen to podcasts through Spotify - I prefer Overcast. Will I watch FX Network or Hulu showing FX shows, even when I know that Fox News broadcasts some of the most hateful, false things about so many things? Yes. Will I support artists and their decisions to not use certain platforms and seek out those artists on other platforms - sure.

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Anonymous wrote:No! Because it is a free country and he has a right to his opinions and thoughts as I do as well. He has a following and a platform so be it. And I have a right to simply disagree with him and move on with my life and yet continue to enjoy the perfect playlists spotify curates for me. Somehow I have managed to co-exist -dare I say even successfully ignore- quite peacefully with someone I completely disagree with.

His loss of a platform on Spotify does not mean he'd lose his opinions and thoughts.
It would just make it harder for him to influence people . Meanwhile, you are facillitating the spread of misinformation that is killing people. Heck, you might even get turned down for an emergency surgery because the hospitals are full of sick antivaxxers who take their advice from Joe Rogan.

Have you guys ever actually listened to his podcasts, or are you just getting info from CNN and/or your friends on Facebook? I'll admit that I was curious, so listened to the one he did w/ the local VA doctor. It was actually pretty good and fair, and the doctor several times pushed back on the stuff Rogan was saying. I dunno. Nothing dangerous about asking questions. I don't quite get this mob mentality going after stuff like this. You don't think critical thinking and conversation is important?

It's weird how the "critical thinking" only applies one way, towards the doctors who tell you things that you don't want to hear because they create inconveniences for you, and yet you never practice "critical thinking" on what Rogan says or "asks".

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. It's pretty scary to see how many anti-free speechers there are here. Have we really come to this?

It's scary how many people don't understand "free speech". Are you an American? Did you flunk out of 6th grade civics class?

I’ve never listened to his podcast, but I’m about to so I can judge for myself. Perusing the list of recent guests, I guess we might have to stop supporting them, too? Crazy right-wingers like Jim Gaffigan, Snoop Dogg and Neil Degrasse Tyson?

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. It's pretty scary to see how many anti-free speechers there are here. Have we really come to this?

Who is here advocating that Rogan be arrested?

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. It's pretty scary to see how many anti-free speechers there are here. Have we really come to this?

People have free speech but they are not free from the consequences of their speech.

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. It's pretty scary to see how many anti-free speechers there are here. Have we really come to this?

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. It's pretty scary to see how many anti-free speechers there are here. Have we really come to this?

+1
Buncha fascists in the making.

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Anonymous wrote:No! Because it is a free country and he has a right to his opinions and thoughts as I do as well. He has a following and a platform so be it. And I have a right to simply disagree with him and move on with my life and yet continue to enjoy the perfect playlists spotify curates for me. Somehow I have managed to co-exist -dare I say even successfully ignore- quite peacefully with someone I completely disagree with.

His loss of a platform on Spotify does not mean he'd lose his opinions and thoughts.
It would just make it harder for him to influence people . Meanwhile, you are facillitating the spread of misinformation that is killing people. Heck, you might even get turned down for an emergency surgery because the hospitals are full of sick antivaxxers who take their advice from Joe Rogan.

Have you guys ever actually listened to his podcasts, or are you just getting info from CNN and/or your friends on Facebook? I'll admit that I was curious, so listened to the one he did w/ the local VA doctor. It was actually pretty good and fair, and the doctor several times pushed back on the stuff Rogan was saying. I dunno. Nothing dangerous about asking questions. I don't quite get this mob mentality going after stuff like this. You don't think critical thinking and conversation is important?

Holy crap. It's pretty scary to see how many anti-free speechers there are here. Have we really come to this?

Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This guy gets it, to bad a lot of posters on here who seem to think he's the GOAT don't get it.

+1

He’s a vile POS. Idiots will believe his lies.

Anonymous wrote:Neil Young did not stand for anything, it is a baseless stand. He moved his music to Amazon a corporation that exploits its employees for profit. None of this sounds heroic. It was more like a corporate chess move. It is however creating chaos between you and I. That's the real reason this is happening. I stand with unity and love

Neil Young never took a stand against selling and profiting from music.

Neil Young took a stand against the normalization of vaccine misinformation. He removed his music from Spotify so that his work would not be used validate validate anti science views as mainstream. Neil Young works a lot to fundraise for vaccines and scientific research about a few chronic illnesses that have touched his family.

Of course it harms his brand to be associated with anti vaccine platforms. Are you really saying that Neil Young as a private citizen should subsidize antivaxers by lending his name and work side by side theirs??? That’s a bizarre position to take if you remotely believe in freedom of speech abd the free market. The level of entitlement is bizarre.