Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asians with high scores only are a dime a dozen. I think issue is it is not they don’t want Asians they need other things.

Football team, basketball team, cheerleaders, artists, actors, liberal arts majors, women studies majors, school band, fraternity and sorority people. You need upper income, lower income, international students, ROTC so on and so on.

My cousin who honestly not sharpest tool went a great school but he was six foot five inch 295 pound star football player of his HS. My sister did not get a scholarship but she was star of her HS plays and even sang on TV. I recall she stared in all her college musicals. Me. I was President of a Fraternity and had season tickets to the teams and did a lot of charity events.

The school is a living breathing community not a cram school based on GPA and SAT scores. I can’t imagine anyone want to go to college like that with 20,000 students who all look alike and thing alike who study all day.

Even my 4.0 genius kids at my college liked to go to games, plays, keg parties, plays. But someone has to do that which is why schools need not only diversity of people but diversity on everything

We've heard about the same lies hundreds of times. It's getting old.

How do they even know they are Asian. I am white but my name is more common for a black person and gives no hint of my nationality and I have no picture when applied to college. Literally put down your name is John Thompson and just not check nationality box.

Asians are funny though. I worked with this lovely Japanese women. On a visa at NYU. We did a lot of work at my firm Bank of Tokyo and Mizuho bank and we need a Japanese speaker also very good at English.

I hire her and my clients are like she is not Japanese even though born and raised in Japan. Apparently her being white in color made her not Japanese. Then they called her AmerAsian but no one in her family is American. Her grandparents were from England. My favorite a few Japanese people born in the USA said she was not Japanese. Wait she is born in Japan and you are born in New York.

Move on folks.

come back again when you can speak English because this is an English forum.

Anonymous wrote:You all have such a fixed mindset about intelligence. A lot of it is because of hard work and self discipline, not because they are ‘smart.’

To some extent, yes. But depends on the level of the work. As a student, most people could work their azz off and still couldn't make USAMO (US Math Olympiad). But look at the who dominate the USAMO qualifier lists year over year.

Anonymous wrote:I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

I think they're all for getting the best/smartest students regardless of race.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

Why should we care? That university is in China for Chinese that we don't really care about. We are talking about *American universities* discriminating against *Americans* because they are not a particular color or is that too fine a point for you to grasp?

If they are Americans why suing as Asians?

Can you be more racist, a-hole?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

Why should we care? That university is in China for Chinese that we don't really care about. We are talking about *American universities* discriminating against *Americans* because they are not a particular color or is that too fine a point for you to grasp?

If they are Americans why suing as Asians?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

China isn't an immigration county, you dumbass.

That is racist. Plus student visas should be set aside for the white, Spanish and black folks unable to get a slot in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:Asians with high scores only are a dime a dozen. I think issue is it is not they don’t want Asians they need other things.

Football team, basketball team, cheerleaders, artists, actors, liberal arts majors, women studies majors, school band, fraternity and sorority people. You need upper income, lower income, international students, ROTC so on and so on.

My cousin who honestly not sharpest tool went a great school but he was six foot five inch 295 pound star football player of his HS. My sister did not get a scholarship but she was star of her HS plays and even sang on TV. I recall she stared in all her college musicals. Me. I was President of a Fraternity and had season tickets to the teams and did a lot of charity events.

The school is a living breathing community not a cram school based on GPA and SAT scores. I can’t imagine anyone want to go to college like that with 20,000 students who all look alike and thing alike who study all day.

Even my 4.0 genius kids at my college liked to go to games, plays, keg parties, plays. But someone has to do that which is why schools need not only diversity of people but diversity on everything

We've heard about the same lies hundreds of times. It's getting old.

How do they even know they are Asian. I am white but my name is more common for a black person and gives no hint of my nationality and I have no picture when applied to college. Literally put down your name is John Thompson and just not check nationality box.

Asians are funny though. I worked with this lovely Japanese women. On a visa at NYU. We did a lot of work at my firm Bank of Tokyo and Mizuho bank and we need a Japanese speaker also very good at English.

I hire her and my clients are like she is not Japanese even though born and raised in Japan. Apparently her being white in color made her not Japanese. Then they called her AmerAsian but no one in her family is American. Her grandparents were from England. My favorite a few Japanese people born in the USA said she was not Japanese. Wait she is born in Japan and you are born in New York.

Move on folks.

Anonymous wrote:I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

China isn't an immigration county, you dumbass.

Anonymous wrote:I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

Why should we care? That university is in China for Chinese that we don't really care about. We are talking about *American universities* discriminating against *Americans* because they are not a particular color or is that too fine a point for you to grasp?

Anonymous wrote:Asians with high scores only are a dime a dozen. I think issue is it is not they don’t want Asians they need other things.

Football team, basketball team, cheerleaders, artists, actors, liberal arts majors, women studies majors, school band, fraternity and sorority people. You need upper income, lower income, international students, ROTC so on and so on.

My cousin who honestly not sharpest tool went a great school but he was six foot five inch 295 pound star football player of his HS. My sister did not get a scholarship but she was star of her HS plays and even sang on TV. I recall she stared in all her college musicals. Me. I was President of a Fraternity and had season tickets to the teams and did a lot of charity events.

The school is a living breathing community not a cram school based on GPA and SAT scores. I can’t imagine anyone want to go to college like that with 20,000 students who all look alike and thing alike who study all day.

Even my 4.0 genius kids at my college liked to go to games, plays, keg parties, plays. But someone has to do that which is why schools need not only diversity of people but diversity on everything

This ignorant point has been made and refuted a 1000 times in these forums. Do you think we don't know that? Do you think all Asian kids do is get good grades and sit on their ass? My 4.0 genius kid does all that things you describe your kid as doing and more. Go read what the Harvard lawsuit is about and get educated.

I am all for it when best University in China let’s in large amount of white, Black and Spanish students

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/tsinghua-university-503146

Anonymous wrote:Asians with high scores only are a dime a dozen. I think issue is it is not they don’t want Asians they need other things.

Football team, basketball team, cheerleaders, artists, actors, liberal arts majors, women studies majors, school band, fraternity and sorority people. You need upper income, lower income, international students, ROTC so on and so on.

My cousin who honestly not sharpest tool went a great school but he was six foot five inch 295 pound star football player of his HS. My sister did not get a scholarship but she was star of her HS plays and even sang on TV. I recall she stared in all her college musicals. Me. I was President of a Fraternity and had season tickets to the teams and did a lot of charity events.

The school is a living breathing community not a cram school based on GPA and SAT scores. I can’t imagine anyone want to go to college like that with 20,000 students who all look alike and thing alike who study all day.

Even my 4.0 genius kids at my college liked to go to games, plays, keg parties, plays. But someone has to do that which is why schools need not only diversity of people but diversity on everything

We've heard about the same lies hundreds of times. It's getting old.

Asians with high scores only are a dime a dozen. I think issue is it is not they don’t want Asians they need other things.

Football team, basketball team, cheerleaders, artists, actors, liberal arts majors, women studies majors, school band, fraternity and sorority people. You need upper income, lower income, international students, ROTC so on and so on.

My cousin who honestly not sharpest tool went a great school but he was six foot five inch 295 pound star football player of his HS. My sister did not get a scholarship but she was star of her HS plays and even sang on TV. I recall she stared in all her college musicals. Me. I was President of a Fraternity and had season tickets to the teams and did a lot of charity events.

The school is a living breathing community not a cram school based on GPA and SAT scores. I can’t imagine anyone want to go to college like that with 20,000 students who all look alike and thing alike who study all day.

Even my 4.0 genius kids at my college liked to go to games, plays, keg parties, plays. But someone has to do that which is why schools need not only diversity of people but diversity on everything

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are just too many applying for a limited number of spots within engineering and CS. MIT and CMU are over 40% Asian, as are the engineering and CS departments at many schools. How is that being racist? Do you think they should be 100%?

When people ask questions like this, I always think of RBG being asked how many women would be "enough" on the Supreme Court, and responding "when there are nine." You know, since there were nine *men* forever, and that wasn't seen as a problem.

So, when MIT and CMU were 100% white, was that a problem? Was it racist? Why would 100% Asian be any different?

That's what a virtual bit*hslap looks like!

+1000. Amen.

i don't get it. aren't the answers to those questions: "yes" "yes" and "it wouldn't be?"

Your answers only make sense if you think that Pakistani and Hmong and Korean backgrounds are all the same because "Asian", so it would be racist to have a diverse student body from these backgrounds among many others. The point, which seems to have flown over your head, is that when these institutions were overwhelmingly white, the people running them did not see them as lacking diversity, because the students were different religions, immigrants from different countries, etc. In fact, the crazy "holistic" admissions system exists because there was "too much" diversity in an entirely white student body, meaning "too many" Jews were admitted, in the eyes of university administration.

And to the people who keep bringing up the percentage of Asians in the general population of the United States: that is not even slightly relevant. What IS relevant is the percentage of Asian *applicants* in a particular school's applicant pool. If 40% of admitted students are Asian, but 70% of the applicant pool is Asian, yes, there IS a problem with discrimination. Plenty of schools are 70% white, so what's wrong with 70% Asian (other than "white people feel threatened by it")?

The most selective schools care about life success, not strictly academics. That’s why academics alone have never been the sole criterion for admission. There are lots of academically smart people who don’t amount to much.