Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:10
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
What about the people in her situation who don’t have wealthy family nearby?
Expired ID has been acceptable in the past. This is a new proposed requirement.
Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone vote by mail? Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone to get the DMV to get a free ID card? Presumably they either had help getting to a polling station or help filling out a mail in ballot in the past.
It’s more than a trip to the DMV for a free ID card. Stop being obtuse.
Oh yeah, you're right. You have to fill out this form and get your picture taken. For free. With assistance if needed.
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/archive/voter-photo-id/ELECT-404-ID-VoPhoIDCardApp-Long.pdf
Did you even read this form? She DOES NOT HAVE THE REQUIRED ID to use this form.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:43
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
I don’t think you understand how rights work.
Yeah, actually I do.
Then you should know we don’t deprive people of their rights based on a disability.
No one is depriving her of her any rights based on a disability.
Really? How exactly? By requiring what most states require, including many states that have been run by Ds for decades?
Republicans want to deprive her.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:41
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
What about the people in her situation who don’t have wealthy family nearby?
Expired ID has been acceptable in the past. This is a new proposed requirement.
Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone vote by mail? Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone to get the DMV to get a free ID card? Presumably they either had help getting to a polling station or help filling out a mail in ballot in the past.
It’s more than a trip to the DMV for a free ID card. Stop being obtuse.
Oh yeah, you're right. You have to fill out this form and get your picture taken. For free. With assistance if needed.
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/archive/voter-photo-id/ELECT-404-ID-VoPhoIDCardApp-Long.pdf
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:31
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
I don’t think you understand how rights work.
Yeah, actually I do.
Then you should know we don’t deprive people of their rights based on a disability.
No one is depriving her of her any rights based on a disability.
Republicans want to deprive her.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:30
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
What about the people in her situation who don’t have wealthy family nearby?
Expired ID has been acceptable in the past. This is a new proposed requirement.
Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone vote by mail? Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone to get the DMV to get a free ID card? Presumably they either had help getting to a polling station or help filling out a mail in ballot in the past.
It’s more than a trip to the DMV for a free ID card. Stop being obtuse.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:17
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
I don’t think you understand how rights work.
Yeah, actually I do.
Then you should know we don’t deprive people of their rights based on a disability.
No one is depriving her of her any rights based on a disability.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:03
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
I don’t think you understand how rights work.
Yeah, actually I do.
Then you should know we don’t deprive people of their rights based on a disability.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 07:01
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
What about the people in her situation who don’t have wealthy family nearby?
Expired ID has been acceptable in the past. This is a new proposed requirement.
Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone vote by mail? Why do you need to be wealthy to help someone to get the DMV to get a free ID card? Presumably they either had help getting to a polling station or help filling out a mail in ballot in the past.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 06:58
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
I don’t think you understand how rights work.
Yeah, actually I do.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 06:47
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
What about the people in her situation who don’t have wealthy family nearby?
Expired ID has been acceptable in the past. This is a new proposed requirement.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 06:45
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.
Why didn't you do this all along?
Ding ding ding. You'd think that would be the obvious thing to do, wouldn't you? The excuses are just... mind-numbing.
DP
Maybe because it costs $555 and is a PITA?
I just looked this up. It costs $41 to change your name in VA. Any more excuses?
http://webdev.courts.state.va.us/cgi-bin/DJIT/ef_djs_ccfees_calc.cgi#ID_CALC_FRM
PP was talking about updating naturalization documents.
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-565instr.pdf
It sounds like the MIL is *already* naturalized. Seems she has needed to change her name for some time, however (four husbands ago??).
The point is there are a variety of scenarios where someone may be a registered voter but not have a valid photo ID.
It’s an added burden that is trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
I completely disagree. This is not a problem for the vast majority of people. At all. And most Americans agree with that.
Majorities of whites (74%), blacks (69%) and other minorities (82%) say voters should be required to show photo identification before being allowed to vote.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/march_2021/75_support_voter_id_laws
Requiring an unexpired photo ID is an unnecessary burden to fix some nonexistent problem.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 06:37
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
I don’t think you understand how rights work.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 06:01
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If your MIL is too lazy to get an ID, she doesn’t need to vote. JFC. Voting is a privilege. Make some effort you lazy bums.
I’ll tell her to stop being lazy and wheel herself, with the one hand that works, down to the DMV, even though she doesn’t have the documentation to get an ID in VA. That’ll show her!
Maybe her family could help her? How has she managed to vote in any and all elections up to this point if she is that incapable? There were prior voter ID requirements in Va not that long ago.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 05:58
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.
Why didn't you do this all along?
Ding ding ding. You'd think that would be the obvious thing to do, wouldn't you? The excuses are just... mind-numbing.
DP
Maybe because it costs $555 and is a PITA?
I just looked this up. It costs $41 to change your name in VA. Any more excuses?
http://webdev.courts.state.va.us/cgi-bin/DJIT/ef_djs_ccfees_calc.cgi#ID_CALC_FRM
PP was talking about updating naturalization documents.
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-565instr.pdf
It sounds like the MIL is *already* naturalized. Seems she has needed to change her name for some time, however (four husbands ago??).
The point is there are a variety of scenarios where someone may be a registered voter but not have a valid photo ID.
It’s an added burden that is trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
There is no undue burden. There are only 15 states plus D.C. that do not require some form of ID to vote in person. The states that do have a valid picture ID requirement will provide free IDs, many through mobile units. People without a driver's license typically still need some form of ID to do most business-related transactions, travel, etc. People who don't drive so don't have a driver's license still need to go out to go to work, get groceries, got to doctors, go to the bank, the post office, etc., are generally pretty adept at getting around on public transport, so the argument that it is so extraordinarily difficult for MOST people to get an ID or go vote is absurd. If this is all still an obstacle, then there is always mail in voting, which requires no ID. On top of all that, there are multiple volunteer organizations that run free transport to polling stations on election days. Any further anecdotal arguments about a family member that apparently no one in the family gave good advice to, like updating your name change status four husbands ago or an invalid relative, maybe should have more helpful and accommodating family, especially to assist them in mail in voting.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 05:50
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.
Why didn't you do this all along?
Because she didn’t need it to get a license before she stopped driving.
But she was supposed to file the correct paperwork all along, regardless of her intent to drive/get a new driver's license.
Dang. $555 to change your name?
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-565instr.pdf
Well, I guess she’s done voting if they don’t have a way to use an expired passport, her Maryland ID, or some other form of ID. She can’t afford that.