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Anonymous wrote:And you're surprised by this? Republicans preyed on stupid idiot wealthy white stay at home moms last year who were just too dumb and ignorant to understand politics and now this is what we get. Thanks idiot moron mclean and great falls moms and their republican lawyer husbands. I can't believe you morons didn't see this coming.

Actually if you read Matt Tiabbi’s recent article it was Indian and southeast Asian communities that swung to him. Some mommies who never overcame their cognitive dissonance about their white privilege, too.

It's Taibbi, not Tiabbi.

Oh no I committed the cardinal sin of transposing letters in an Internet discussion. I guess I forever lack credibility now. Bummer.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.

I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.

Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?

Not in the last 2 years.

My passport is expired too.

All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s

I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.

I assure you: no one cares about this sob story of yours. We've all had to put up with inconveniences to renew our licenses, obtain ID, etc. You are not special, but you certainly are a whiner. From the VA DMV: "Wednesdays are now walk-in days! Walk in for service Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday (in offices with Saturday hours). Appointment-only service is available on Mondays and Fridays. Plan your visit today!"

If you can't manage that, there is something seriously wrong with your organizational skills.
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My entire point is that it is not a trivial task. Especially in certain circumstances. It has been a huge burden, even for me - and I have a car, computer, mortgage, etc.

Let me get this right: It’s too much to expect everyone to get an ID to vote (doesn’t have to be a driver’s license), but EVERYONE has to have a vaccine card proving they’ve been vaccinated at least twice (and some counties want to have vaccine passports)?

What does one have to do with the other?

I mean, your pretzel logic is puzzling.

I have an idea. Since we’re demanding IDs to vote, you should need to carry a special ID to own a firearm. Failure to produce it on demand of any private citizen should result in confiscation of the gun and imprisonment.

Yeah, that’s called a license and it’s already required to legally own a firearm.

It isn’t a photo ID. You should be required to have a photo ID license on you at all times and have to produce it on demand to anyone who asks. One for each gun.

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Anonymous wrote:And you're surprised by this? Republicans preyed on stupid idiot wealthy white stay at home moms last year who were just too dumb and ignorant to understand politics and now this is what we get. Thanks idiot moron mclean and great falls moms and their republican lawyer husbands. I can't believe you morons didn't see this coming.

Actually if you read Matt Tiabbi’s recent article it was Indian and southeast Asian communities that swung to him. Some mommies who never overcame their cognitive dissonance about their white privilege, too.

It's Taibbi, not Tiabbi.

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Anonymous wrote:Welp, it looks like a bunch of people will be moving to MD or DC.

Congrats to the far right for installing a Trump wannabe as Governor.

Nah, people aren't going to uproot themselves for a Governor who is around for 4 years and can't be elected to a consecutive term. Proposed bills take a while to wind through the system so at most you might see a couple noteworthy pieces of legislation per a Governor's term and a lot of smaller laws and changes that you hardly notice.

Says the person who feels like they won't be impacted by any of this. There are plenty of blue/purple VA residents who want no part of this vision.

DP. No one is moving to those places because of this. Living in VA has way too many advantages.

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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.

I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.

That was a drivers license. I know it is hard for someone like yourself to understand the difference between a drivers license and a National ID? There is no voting fraud but because of people like you we need to reinvent a system that is working fine. It makes it harder to vote. The only reason you want for making it harder to vote is to suppress the vote. Conservatives just want to rule by dictate.

DP. I think it's hilarious that liberals such as yourself insist that obtaining an ID - something everyone should have anyway - is just too hard. Spare us all. No one is "making it harder to vote." You sound absolutely inept and helpless. Get an ID and stop whining.

The fascinating part is that libs want to force everyone to be vaccinated.

What do you need to show in order to get vaccinated? An ID!!!!! I know this first hand, because I didn’t want to show my ID for my vaccination, and was told I couldn’t get it without showing ID.

So apparently everyone CAN get an ID - because you need it to get vaccinated, and every MUST get vaccinated…

But when it comes to voting, an ID is discriminatory.


Explain that one to me.

So true! I completely forgot about needing an ID to get vaccinated. Let's hear them make up some idiotic excuse about that...

No, you don’t need an ID to get vaccinated.

So if it didn’t happen to you, there is no way it could be true is that how you think it works???
And it depends on where you go.
I was vaccinated at an independent pharmacy in NOVa and was required to provide my license.
Harris Teeter wanted not only wanted my drivers licenses but also my social security number.
Testing done at one of those kiosks as for my license.
The providers of services want to track and. make sure they get all monies owed to them from the state and the feds for any covid related expenses so in an effort to do so they have decided to track and keep records. It doesn’t matter if you think it should wrk that way or if you “know” it doesn’t. The business has the policy and they are allowed ti.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.

I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.

Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?

Not in the last 2 years.

My passport is expired too.

All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s

I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.

I assure you: no one cares about this sob story of yours. We've all had to put up with inconveniences to renew our licenses, obtain ID, etc. You are not special, but you certainly are a whiner. From the VA DMV: "Wednesdays are now walk-in days! Walk in for service Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday (in offices with Saturday hours). Appointment-only service is available on Mondays and Fridays. Plan your visit today!"

If you can't manage that, there is something seriously wrong with your organizational skills.
DP

My entire point is that it is not a trivial task. Especially in certain circumstances. It has been a huge burden, even for me - and I have a car, computer, mortgage, etc.

Let me get this right: It’s too much to expect everyone to get an ID to vote (doesn’t have to be a driver’s license), but EVERYONE has to have a vaccine card proving they’ve been vaccinated at least twice (and some counties want to have vaccine passports)?

What does one have to do with the other?

I mean, your pretzel logic is puzzling.

I have an idea. Since we’re demanding IDs to vote, you should need to carry a special ID to own a firearm. Failure to produce it on demand of any private citizen should result in confiscation of the gun and imprisonment.

Yeah, that’s called a license and it’s already required to legally own a firearm.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.

I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.

Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?

Not in the last 2 years.

My passport is expired too.

All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s

I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.

I assure you: no one cares about this sob story of yours. We've all had to put up with inconveniences to renew our licenses, obtain ID, etc. You are not special, but you certainly are a whiner. From the VA DMV: "Wednesdays are now walk-in days! Walk in for service Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday (in offices with Saturday hours). Appointment-only service is available on Mondays and Fridays. Plan your visit today!"

If you can't manage that, there is something seriously wrong with your organizational skills.
DP

My entire point is that it is not a trivial task. Especially in certain circumstances. It has been a huge burden, even for me - and I have a car, computer, mortgage, etc.

Let me get this right: It’s too much to expect everyone to get an ID to vote (doesn’t have to be a driver’s license), but EVERYONE has to have a vaccine card proving they’ve been vaccinated at least twice (and some counties want to have vaccine passports)?

What does one have to do with the other?

I mean, your pretzel logic is puzzling.

I have an idea. Since we’re demanding IDs to vote, you should need to carry a special ID to own a firearm. Failure to produce it on demand of any private citizen should result in confiscation of the gun and imprisonment.

Anonymous wrote:OP, the anti-CRT legislation is here. Lord, what fools these Republicans be.

Typical.

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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.

I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.

That was a drivers license. I know it is hard for someone like yourself to understand the difference between a drivers license and a National ID? There is no voting fraud but because of people like you we need to reinvent a system that is working fine. It makes it harder to vote. The only reason you want for making it harder to vote is to suppress the vote. Conservatives just want to rule by dictate.

DP. I think it's hilarious that liberals such as yourself insist that obtaining an ID - something everyone should have anyway - is just too hard. Spare us all. No one is "making it harder to vote." You sound absolutely inept and helpless. Get an ID and stop whining.

The fascinating part is that libs want to force everyone to be vaccinated.

What do you need to show in order to get vaccinated? An ID!!!!! I know this first hand, because I didn’t want to show my ID for my vaccination, and was told I couldn’t get it without showing ID.

So apparently everyone CAN get an ID - because you need it to get vaccinated, and every MUST get vaccinated…

But when it comes to voting, an ID is discriminatory.


Explain that one to me.

So true! I completely forgot about needing an ID to get vaccinated. Let's hear them make up some idiotic excuse about that...

No, you don’t need an ID to get vaccinated.

Yes, you do.

I went to three different places in April of last year trying to get vaccinated without having to show an ID - one in DC, a CVS in Arlington, and a vaccination clinic at Montgomery College in Germantown, MD.

After the third try, I gave up and showed my ID at the Germantown clinic.


YOU CANNOT GET VACCINATED WITHOUT ID.

I’m proof of that.

What sort of moron does something like this?

I didn’t have to show an ID. I needed an e-mail address and had to register. But I got my jabs at Dulles Town Center and never showed a government-issued ID.

Anonymous wrote:And you're surprised by this? Republicans preyed on stupid idiot wealthy white stay at home moms last year who were just too dumb and ignorant to understand politics and now this is what we get. Thanks idiot moron mclean and great falls moms and their republican lawyer husbands. I can't believe you morons didn't see this coming.

Actually if you read Matt Tiabbi’s recent article it was Indian and southeast Asian communities that swung to him. Some mommies who never overcame their cognitive dissonance about their white privilege, too.

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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

Why is anyone against early voting?

Who's against early voting? Two weeks isn't early enough for you? Are there any other special considerations you'd like??

How about leaving the current early voting rules in place?

Why? No one needs 45 DAYS to vote. Good grief.

Some day. Why are you hung up on this? The more time to vote the better — the goal to allow everyone to vote.

I think the voter age should be lowered to 16 too.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

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Amazing how true racists are constantly projecting.

LOL. Dude essentially said some of his friends are black therefore he's not racist.

LOL. Sit down.

Sorry, nope. You sound like a complete moron.

You misunderstood. Telling you to sit down wasn’t a suggestion.

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Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.

I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.

That was a drivers license. I know it is hard for someone like yourself to understand the difference between a drivers license and a National ID? There is no voting fraud but because of people like you we need to reinvent a system that is working fine. It makes it harder to vote. The only reason you want for making it harder to vote is to suppress the vote. Conservatives just want to rule by dictate.

DP. I think it's hilarious that liberals such as yourself insist that obtaining an ID - something everyone should have anyway - is just too hard. Spare us all. No one is "making it harder to vote." You sound absolutely inept and helpless. Get an ID and stop whining.

The fascinating part is that libs want to force everyone to be vaccinated.

What do you need to show in order to get vaccinated? An ID!!!!! I know this first hand, because I didn’t want to show my ID for my vaccination, and was told I couldn’t get it without showing ID.

So apparently everyone CAN get an ID - because you need it to get vaccinated, and every MUST get vaccinated…

But when it comes to voting, an ID is discriminatory.


Explain that one to me.

So true! I completely forgot about needing an ID to get vaccinated. Let's hear them make up some idiotic excuse about that...

No, you don’t need an ID to get vaccinated.

Yes, you do.

I went to three different places in April of last year trying to get vaccinated without having to show an ID - one in DC, a CVS in Arlington, and a vaccination clinic at Montgomery College in Germantown, MD.

After the third try, I gave up and showed my ID at the Germantown clinic.


YOU CANNOT GET VACCINATED WITHOUT ID.

I’m proof of that.

YES, YOU CAN.

If you went to any of the vaccine clinics in VA they weren’t required:

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/covid-19-faq/vaccination/
“ No, photo identification is not required for vaccination. It is important however, to have some way to confirm your identity (i.e. name, date of birth) so we can confirm that we are vaccinating the right person.

VDH recommends that vaccine providers refrain from enforcing any residency requirements by asking for identification or documentation from individuals.”

He’s going to be such a shitty governor. He’s determined to drive us down with the likes of West Virginia and Kentucky.

No idea to vote but show your papers every time you want to eat at a restaurant. It's so easy! Everybody just get out there and get your cards and do it for your fellow man!