Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SRO are fine just be prepared for a bunch of black boys leaving the schools in cuffs. Sure one or two serious incidents will be snuffed out but lots of pretend hard kids who are in minor fights and hopped up on adrenaline while wanting to look tough for the homies will disrespect the guards and get battery charges. White kids will get 2nd chances when their sorries and Sirs come out and mama pulls up in her X5.

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… and it is not backed up by Montgomery County statistics. 3% of student arrests recently were initiated by SROs. Just 3%. During the 2019-2020 school year, SROs initiated just 9 arrests, that’s less than one per high school. There will NOT be “a bunch”’of students leaving schools in cuffs… period. The SROs serve as a resource, a deterrent, a chance for positive interactions with police. The narrative you are promoting is not backed up at all by current, local statistics.

This is correct. People are using police encounter disparities by race to further their own political purpose, without understanding that association is not causation. Or maybe they do know that, but think so little of us residents that they will perpetuate the lie anyway. Police respond to the problem; they don't create the problem in the first place. There are ways to improve actual policing, to be safer and more fair, but you won't get there by relying on a population-based denominator.

“Before anybody’s had contact with law enforcement, they’ve had contact with schools, with jobs, either getting them or not, with the health care system and the housing systems, all of which suffer from many of the same and sometimes even worse forms of bias than does law enforcement,” said Phillip Atiba Goff, a visiting scholar at the Harvard Kennedy School (HKS) who leads an effort to collect nationwide data on police behavior.

“What we are frequently picking up on is not the prejudice or discrimination by law enforcement, but rather the symptoms of a society that is still sickened and toxified by the prejudices and discrimination of our current society, and from generations past.”

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2016/02/the-costs-of-inequality-a-goal-of-justice-a-reality-of-unfairness/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to see an anonymous poll of HS teachers about whether they think SROs were helpful or mitt.
And then an anonymous poll of students as well.

Anonymous so there’s no peer pressure involved.
Our PTA took a vote—did I want to be seen as the white person advocating for keeping SROs on a zoom call with a bunch of people I don’t know? No.

HS teacher here. I 100% want SROs back in schools. I say that as a teacher AND a parent.

Different HS teacher here. I 100% DON"T want them back. They range from divisive to useless.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SRO are fine just be prepared for a bunch of black boys leaving the schools in cuffs. Sure one or two serious incidents will be snuffed out but lots of pretend hard kids who are in minor fights and hopped up on adrenaline while wanting to look tough for the homies will disrespect the guards and get battery charges. White kids will get 2nd chances when their sorries and Sirs come out and mama pulls up in her X5.

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… and it is not backed up by Montgomery County statistics. 3% of student arrests recently were initiated by SROs. Just 3%. During the 2019-2020 school year, SROs initiated just 9 arrests, that’s less than one per high school. There will NOT be “a bunch”’of students leaving schools in cuffs… period. The SROs serve as a resource, a deterrent, a chance for positive interactions with police. The narrative you are promoting is not backed up at all by current, local statistics.

+1

Ya SROs barely do anything. This is mostly just a jobs program for cops they don't want to put on the street.

This is a terrible idea. As this year has shown, the schools are perfectly capable of handling this without the SRO jobs program.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SRO are fine just be prepared for a bunch of black boys leaving the schools in cuffs. Sure one or two serious incidents will be snuffed out but lots of pretend hard kids who are in minor fights and hopped up on adrenaline while wanting to look tough for the homies will disrespect the guards and get battery charges. White kids will get 2nd chances when their sorries and Sirs come out and mama pulls up in her X5.

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… and it is not backed up by Montgomery County statistics. 3% of student arrests recently were initiated by SROs. Just 3%. During the 2019-2020 school year, SROs initiated just 9 arrests, that’s less than one per high school. There will NOT be “a bunch”’of students leaving schools in cuffs… period. The SROs serve as a resource, a deterrent, a chance for positive interactions with police. The narrative you are promoting is not backed up at all by current, local statistics.

+1

Anonymous wrote:SRO are fine just be prepared for a bunch of black boys leaving the schools in cuffs. Sure one or two serious incidents will be snuffed out but lots of pretend hard kids who are in minor fights and hopped up on adrenaline while wanting to look tough for the homies will disrespect the guards and get battery charges. White kids will get 2nd chances when their sorries and Sirs come out and mama pulls up in her X5.

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… and it is not backed up by Montgomery County statistics. 3% of student arrests recently were initiated by SROs. Just 3%. During the 2019-2020 school year, SROs initiated just 9 arrests, that’s less than one per high school. There will NOT be “a bunch”’of students leaving schools in cuffs… period. The SROs serve as a resource, a deterrent, a chance for positive interactions with police. The narrative you are promoting is not backed up at all by current, local statistics.

SRO are fine just be prepared for a bunch of black boys leaving the schools in cuffs. Sure one or two serious incidents will be snuffed out but lots of pretend hard kids who are in minor fights and hopped up on adrenaline while wanting to look tough for the homies will disrespect the guards and get battery charges. White kids will get 2nd chances when their sorries and Sirs come out and mama pulls up in her X5.

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Anonymous wrote:100% of the Principals, the ones on the ground and running the schools, wanted to keep the SROs. To me, that's enough.

I do not care what a bunch of HS students want - they are not adults, do not vote, pay taxes or run the schools. THEY ARE NOT ADULTS!

+1 ITA. Most students have not experienced guns in school and the fear and anxiety that comes with it. If you poll the kids now after this incident, what would they say? Most kids are not cynical enough to know how the real world work, and how many crazy people there are out there. My HSer thinks they know everything.

100% of the Principals, the ones on the ground and running the schools, wanted to keep the SROs. To me, that's enough.

I do not care what a bunch of HS students want - they are not adults, do not vote, pay taxes or run the schools. THEY ARE NOT ADULTS!

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to see an anonymous poll of HS teachers about whether they think SROs were helpful or mitt.
And then an anonymous poll of students as well.

Anonymous so there’s no peer pressure involved.
Our PTA took a vote—did I want to be seen as the white person advocating for keeping SROs on a zoom call with a bunch of people I don’t know? No.

Our PTA had a fake vote and really didn't care what anyone had to say.

Does anyone see the irony that because schools are in-person now this happened?

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to see an anonymous poll of HS teachers about whether they think SROs were helpful or mitt.
And then an anonymous poll of students as well.

Anonymous so there’s no peer pressure involved.
Our PTA took a vote—did I want to be seen as the white person advocating for keeping SROs on a zoom call with a bunch of people I don’t know? No.

HS teacher here. I 100% want SROs back in schools. I say that as a teacher AND a parent.

I’d love to see an anonymous poll of HS teachers about whether they think SROs were helpful or mitt.
And then an anonymous poll of students as well.

Anonymous so there’s no peer pressure involved.
Our PTA took a vote—did I want to be seen as the white person advocating for keeping SROs on a zoom call with a bunch of people I don’t know? No.

Anonymous wrote:If you care about school safety, pls sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/montgomery-county-council-reinstate-school-resource-officers-at-mcps

Recently, there are a number of local and nation wide violence attacks against students. Here are two quick examples.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/blair-high-school-stabbing-student-charged/2021/11/09/7e87293a-4176-11ec-a88e-2aa4632af69b_story.html
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/video-teen-girls-attack-students-on-septa-train/3051706/

It sounds the time to put our student safety first.

Thanks,

Worst idea ever!! These are the guys that run away whenever there's trouble. No thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with all of you? Plase explain to me what the fear is of a police officer? IMO, this is taught just as hate/bigotry is taught. The SROs helped kids, lots and lots of kids of all ethnic backgrounds.

The SROs worked with teens, and were trained to work with teens. They knew which kids were trouble, and which kids were in trouble. They befriended both, supporteed both, and helped prevent many tragedies.

+1. The anti-SRO argument begins with an initial premise that SROs operate with bad intentions. I’ve worked closely with 4 of them now and that’s simply not true.

+100 Principals support bringing SROs back. The officers were in a place to prevent problems. How many knife incidents have happened this school year in MCPS and now a school shooting? We aren’t even out of the first semester yet.

MCPS promised more mental health and counseling supports for students. Didn’t happen.

SROs need to come back for the safety of students and staff. How unsafe do schools need to get?

Physical safety should come first.