Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 05:59     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

“ It was an election that McAuliffe lost because the perception among likely voters was that McAuliffe doesn't care at all about educating their kids.”

It’s this. And frankly I do NOT think it was a backlash against schools having closed from 3/20-3/21 or masks. I think it was a lot more about how the schools are handling this now and how they are likely to moving forward. FCPS’s survey on calendar came out around the same time as the election and in it I was pretty shocked to find the question about using asynchronous days as an option even next year. Nova generally supported school closure as necessary 3/20-3/21 but even we are done now and ready to be moving on.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 05:42     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/05/glenn-youngkin-republican-strategists-519609

Dem that works campaigns —

Excellent listen/read from GY’s strategists on how they won.

TMac was meanwhile run by Michael Halle — ex pete and hrc, married to the chick that supplied the Iowa caucus app that melted down.

No wonder we got crushed. The talent difference is massive.


Did Halle have Fox and rightwing radio lying for him all day every day?

The propaganda difference is massive.


Not Fox or talk radio, but pretty much every single other media outlet on the air....
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 05:21     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


If the Ds could manage to stop lying and gaslighting, maybe we'd get somewhere. But that's not about to happen, so...


Projecting again?


No we are just trying to have the Ds win the next election and you’re not helping!!!!
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 01:37     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/05/glenn-youngkin-republican-strategists-519609

Dem that works campaigns —

Excellent listen/read from GY’s strategists on how they won.

TMac was meanwhile run by Michael Halle — ex pete and hrc, married to the chick that supplied the Iowa caucus app that melted down.

No wonder we got crushed. The talent difference is massive.


Did Halle have Fox and rightwing radio lying for him all day every day?

The propaganda difference is massive.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 00:32     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:This part resonated with me and is one reason I was so drawn to Youngkin:

"And when he got in [the race], our advice was: you don't have to choose to be a Huckabee Republican or a Cruz Republican or a Rand Paul Republican or a Trump Republican or Romney Republican. You don't have to make that choice. You're a Youngkin Republican. Plant your post and that’s your guidepost, and be your own guy."





"Be your own guy."

Oh that's rich.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 23:40     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it matter whether it was 18 months, 12 months, or 9 months? The fact is that VA school closures were much longer than average and not based in sound science. The exact time period is less important.


If it were a one-time slip up, sure. But it’s been repeated many times. This is just another lame attempt to spread misinformation.





OMG I'm sorry but you are ridiculous. Who tf cares whether the time period was exactly a year or 18 months or whatever. No wonder the Democrats are doomed.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 23:08     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


If the Ds could manage to stop lying and gaslighting, maybe we'd get somewhere. But that's not about to happen, so...


Projecting again?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 23:08     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:Does it matter whether it was 18 months, 12 months, or 9 months? The fact is that VA school closures were much longer than average and not based in sound science. The exact time period is less important.


If it were a one-time slip up, sure. But it’s been repeated many times. This is just another lame attempt to spread misinformation.



Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 22:50     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Does it matter whether it was 18 months, 12 months, or 9 months? The fact is that VA school closures were much longer than average and not based in sound science. The exact time period is less important.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 22:39     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


If the Ds could manage to stop lying and gaslighting, maybe we'd get somewhere. But that's not about to happen, so...
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 22:38     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


oh ffs. nobody was lying. maybe PP had their dates wrong somewhat. the fact remains - schools closed for well over a year and Virginia was among the worst states for the length of closures. We all lived through it. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen as much as you wish you could.


Blatant lie #1: ”Fcps special ed kids wwre kept out of school through the summer of 2021”
Blatant lie #2: ”schools closed for well over a year”

I mean, it felt like 5 years but it was just a year. Maybe even less for some.



I’m not going to do this with you. What a pitiful deflection.



It happened. My kids are still trying to catch up in some areas.

That year definitely sucked for almost all of us. You don’t need to lie about it to make your point. That only detracts from your message.

Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 22:00     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


oh ffs. nobody was lying. maybe PP had their dates wrong somewhat. the fact remains - schools closed for well over a year and Virginia was among the worst states for the length of closures. We all lived through it. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen as much as you wish you could.


Blatant lie #1: ”Fcps special ed kids wwre kept out of school through the summer of 2021”
Blatant lie #2: ”schools closed for well over a year”

I mean, it felt like 5 years but it was just a year. Maybe even less for some.



I’m not going to do this with you. What a pitiful deflection.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 21:51     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


oh ffs. nobody was lying. maybe PP had their dates wrong somewhat. the fact remains - schools closed for well over a year and Virginia was among the worst states for the length of closures. We all lived through it. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen as much as you wish you could.


Blatant lie #1: ”Fcps special ed kids wwre kept out of school through the summer of 2021”
Blatant lie #2: ”schools closed for well over a year”

I mean, it felt like 5 years but it was just a year. Maybe even less for some.


Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 21:43     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is one example to prove that they went back to all virtual even for the highest needs groups that had brought back in for a few times:

https://www.fcps.edu/blog/student-group-3-returns-virtual-instruction-december-14


Back in classrooms in Feb. All students (who selected in-person and didn’t ditch) were back in schools in March.

The PP above was lying.


Nobody is lying except the Dems lying to themselves about the consequences of school closures.


The consequences are pretty obvious. Lots of misdirected anger.

But regardless the PP earlier was lying about dates.


you just cannot face it can you?


I face it every day. The relentless lying is unavoidable.

I don’t get it. Totally dumb, clearly blatant lies. Why bother? Just trolling?



I don’t know why that one PP was lying. But guess what - none of believed it because there was literally no kernel of truth. Which is not what happened with what the Rs were saying … so you guys really have to do some self assessment on what kernels of truth there were with that.


Right. Misinformation is a huge issue.

Maybe the Rs could work on not lying. Even if a lie contains a kernel of truth, it’s still a lie.


oh ffs. nobody was lying. maybe PP had their dates wrong somewhat. the fact remains - schools closed for well over a year and Virginia was among the worst states for the length of closures. We all lived through it. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen as much as you wish you could.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 21:27     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

The fact is that Youngkin won because Democrat voters didn't feel enthused enough about McAuliffe to bother voting. And a lot of potential McAuliffe voters didn't feel enthusiastic enough because they blame Democrats for harmful school closures.

This wasn't an election that Youngkin won by converting masses of Democrats. It was an election that McAuliffe lost because the perception among likely voters was that McAuliffe doesn't care at all about educating their kids.