Anonymous
10/27/2021 08:13
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.
What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?
Tiny school. Allure - less people. Better teacher to student ratio. Not a small fish in a big sea
Rural area. Allure - scenic. Quiet. Peaceful. Less crime. Fresh air. Outdoor activities.
D1. Allure - better competition. Possible TV games. Better stigma.
As far as challenging … college is what you make of it, regardless of the school. Go to a better rated school for Grad school if you’re that into academics.
What is "better stigma"?
I love posters like you. Arguing to argue. You know what it means. You just don’t like it because you and/or your kid didn’t play at a D1 school.
I don't know what the post means. Do you?
That’s ok, not everyone was graced with intelligence.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 20:40
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.
What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?
Tiny school. Allure - less people. Better teacher to student ratio. Not a small fish in a big sea
Rural area. Allure - scenic. Quiet. Peaceful. Less crime. Fresh air. Outdoor activities.
D1. Allure - better competition. Possible TV games. Better stigma.
As far as challenging … college is what you make of it, regardless of the school. Go to a better rated school for Grad school if you’re that into academics.
What is "better stigma"?
I love posters like you. Arguing to argue. You know what it means. You just don’t like it because you and/or your kid didn’t play at a D1 school.
I don't know what the post means. Do you?
Anonymous
10/26/2021 20:18
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A naval academy student graduates and is required to do 6 years as an officer in the fleet. A 2021 grad will hit the workforce in 2027 at about 28 year of age.
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
Fist off how many girls at Longwood are on a full ride and not partial? Now that I've narrowed it down to 1 maybe 2 you might want to add in that every USNA Student Athlete pulls in a monthly $$$ on top of their free education and all the perks that go with it. Now if i accept you premise that they are both officers upon graduation you do realize that a college graduate entering the Navy as an officer versus a USNA graduate officer are two very different people. Finally I will acknowledge your make believe scenario that this Longwood student is out two years earlier in the workforce. Not saying that is a benefit but you seem to think so. I'll counter your meager benefit with a lifetime of USNA connections, networking and opportunities that your Longwood student athlete will never see, not even a fraction of.
There is no comparison at all between the two. Your best case scenario is flawed from start to finish but you keep thinking it. Meanwhile, USNA grads will continue to excel and benefit long after the leave the service and well into their retirement
I’ll just have my Longwood player join the Free Masons for the alumni network
Lol. (Assuming this is someone making a mild crack at the expense of the NoVa CC/Longwood fan. If not, I apologize.)
Anonymous
10/26/2021 19:43
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.
What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?
Tiny school. Allure - less people. Better teacher to student ratio. Not a small fish in a big sea
Rural area. Allure - scenic. Quiet. Peaceful. Less crime. Fresh air. Outdoor activities.
D1. Allure - better competition. Possible TV games. Better stigma.
As far as challenging … college is what you make of it, regardless of the school. Go to a better rated school for Grad school if you’re that into academics.
What is "better stigma"?
I love posters like you. Arguing to argue. You know what it means. You just don’t like it because you and/or your kid didn’t play at a D1 school.
I'm not the OP or the PP, but I must admit I have no idea what a better stigma is either, and it has nothing to do with where I or my kid played or didn't play.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 18:56
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A naval academy student graduates and is required to do 6 years as an officer in the fleet. A 2021 grad will hit the workforce in 2027 at about 28 year of age.
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
Fist off how many girls at Longwood are on a full ride and not partial? Now that I've narrowed it down to 1 maybe 2 you might want to add in that every USNA Student Athlete pulls in a monthly $$$ on top of their free education and all the perks that go with it. Now if i accept you premise that they are both officers upon graduation you do realize that a college graduate entering the Navy as an officer versus a USNA graduate officer are two very different people. Finally I will acknowledge your make believe scenario that this Longwood student is out two years earlier in the workforce. Not saying that is a benefit but you seem to think so. I'll counter your meager benefit with a lifetime of USNA connections, networking and opportunities that your Longwood student athlete will never see, not even a fraction of.
There is no comparison at all between the two. Your best case scenario is flawed from start to finish but you keep thinking it. Meanwhile, USNA grads will continue to excel and benefit long after the leave the service and well into their retirement
I’ll just have my Longwood player join the Free Masons for the alumni network
Anonymous
10/26/2021 18:55
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.
What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?
Tiny school. Allure - less people. Better teacher to student ratio. Not a small fish in a big sea
Rural area. Allure - scenic. Quiet. Peaceful. Less crime. Fresh air. Outdoor activities.
D1. Allure - better competition. Possible TV games. Better stigma.
As far as challenging … college is what you make of it, regardless of the school. Go to a better rated school for Grad school if you’re that into academics.
What is "better stigma"?
I love posters like you. Arguing to argue. You know what it means. You just don’t like it because you and/or your kid didn’t play at a D1 school.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 18:18
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:A naval academy student graduates and is required to do 6 years as an officer in the fleet. A 2021 grad will hit the workforce in 2027 at about 28 year of age.
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
Fist off how many girls at Longwood are on a full ride and not partial? Now that I've narrowed it down to 1 maybe 2 you might want to add in that every USNA Student Athlete pulls in a monthly $$$ on top of their free education and all the perks that go with it. Now if i accept you premise that they are both officers upon graduation you do realize that a college graduate entering the Navy as an officer versus a USNA graduate officer are two very different people. Finally I will acknowledge your make believe scenario that this Longwood student is out two years earlier in the workforce. Not saying that is a benefit but you seem to think so. I'll counter your meager benefit with a lifetime of USNA connections, networking and opportunities that your Longwood student athlete will never see, not even a fraction of.
There is no comparison at all between the two. Your best case scenario is flawed from start to finish but you keep thinking it. Meanwhile, USNA grads will continue to excel and benefit long after the leave the service and well into their retirement
Anonymous
10/26/2021 18:03
Subject: Re:Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No tiny schools on that list!
What’s a tiny school and why would enrollment matter?
No clue what enrollment size metric OP had in mind, but this was the actual question from the original post:
“What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?”
Whats the allure of anything?
Anonymous
10/26/2021 17:29
Subject: Re:Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No tiny schools on that list!
What’s a tiny school and why would enrollment matter?
No clue what enrollment size metric OP had in mind, but this was the actual question from the original post:
“What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?”
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:19
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A naval academy student graduates and is required to do 6 years as an officer in the fleet. A 2021 grad will hit the workforce in 2027 at about 28 year of age.
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
I'm out. Best wishes on whatever path your player takes.
Hard to dispute.
You get the ring though so that counts for something.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:17
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:CEOs of the 10 biggest companies in the Fortune 500 mostly attended state schools for their undergraduate degrees. As of 2020, this is primarily still the case. Below are the top 10 Fortune 500 companies in 2020 listed with their CEO's and the CEO's undergraduate university.
Walmart: Doug McMillion - University of Arkansas
Amazon.com: Jeff Bezos - Princeton University
Exxon Mobil: Darren Woods - Texas A&M University
Apple: Tim Cook - Auburn University
CVS Health: Larry Merlo - University of Pittsburgh
Warren Buffett - University of Pennsylvania
UnitedHealth Group: David Wichmann - Illinois State University
McKesson: Brian S. Tyler - University of California, Santa Cruz
AT&T: Jeff McElfresh - University of Florida
AmerisourceBergen: Steven H. Collis - University of Witwatersrand
I am sure number 11 is nova cc.
The first 60 credits at NOVA are worth the same as anywhere else….at a fraction of the cost.
That is one opinion. I personally would prefer our nuclear sub operators get those first 60 credits at annapolis but to each his or her own.
Naval academy is phenomenal school. Not everyone can get in. For those that can, they do. For those that don’t, they do the best they can with what they got. There is many ways to the same destination. That’s the point.
I agree completely. My comments were directed ta the poster that seems to feel that a credit is a credit regadrless of where it is taken or who is doing the instrutuction. The "school sucks" poster.
Community college is great but it is not a good match for many students and to imply that the instruction is equivalent to every other institution is ludicris.
I am the same poster. We agree that the better school, if feasible, is the way to go.
The naval academy is highly selective. I respect the naval academy more than the Ivys (MIT is a different story though).
The vast majority of kids will never reach that level. So for them, maybe its better to take electives at a cheaper cost and get their grades up and transfer into a more selective school….or use the saving for grad school which will trump the name of the undergrad school.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:13
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:A naval academy student graduates and is required to do 6 years as an officer in the fleet. A 2021 grad will hit the workforce in 2027 at about 28 year of age.
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
I'm out. Best wishes on whatever path your player takes.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:11
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
A naval academy student graduates and is required to do 6 years as an officer in the fleet. A 2021 grad will hit the workforce in 2027 at about 28 year of age.
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
A Longwood soccer player who received a full ride graduates in 2021 with no debt. Joins the Navy and becomes and officer with a four year commitment. Hits the workforce in 2025 at the age of 26.
Both graduate debt free
Both were Naval officers
One hits the workforce soon than the other
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:07
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:CEOs of the 10 biggest companies in the Fortune 500 mostly attended state schools for their undergraduate degrees. As of 2020, this is primarily still the case. Below are the top 10 Fortune 500 companies in 2020 listed with their CEO's and the CEO's undergraduate university.
Walmart: Doug McMillion - University of Arkansas
Amazon.com: Jeff Bezos - Princeton University
Exxon Mobil: Darren Woods - Texas A&M University
Apple: Tim Cook - Auburn University
CVS Health: Larry Merlo - University of Pittsburgh
Warren Buffett - University of Pennsylvania
UnitedHealth Group: David Wichmann - Illinois State University
McKesson: Brian S. Tyler - University of California, Santa Cruz
AT&T: Jeff McElfresh - University of Florida
AmerisourceBergen: Steven H. Collis - University of Witwatersrand
I am sure number 11 is nova cc.
The first 60 credits at NOVA are worth the same as anywhere else….at a fraction of the cost.
That is one opinion. I personally would prefer our nuclear sub operators get those first 60 credits at annapolis but to each his or her own.
Naval academy is phenomenal school. Not everyone can get in. For those that can, they do. For those that don’t, they do the best they can with what they got. There is many ways to the same destination. That’s the point.
I agree completely. My comments were directed ta the poster that seems to feel that a credit is a credit regadrless of where it is taken or who is doing the instrutuction. The "school sucks" poster.
Community college is great but it is not a good match for many students and to imply that the instruction is equivalent to every other institution is ludicris.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:02
Subject: Why D1 if the school is only so so?
First 60 credits are electives and has nothing to do with your degree.