Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:51
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is classist, racist, and inequitable.
We need to follow NYC’s lead and get rid of AAP:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1006426.page
long overdue. has become a tool of the upper class at the expense of the average family.
when elementary schools like Springhill have over 60% of the students as "gifted", something is not correct.
Disagree.
Fairfax county has a high household income. The state has become a brain magnet vs a brain drain. Heck, the state’s top 10% make 250k a year, almost double the National top 10% of 150k.
If you consider yourself average nationally- you are below average here.
That’s the rub. There are more smart parents, more smart kids.
If you don’t like it- move to where there isn’t aap. Let us know how it goes and we will smile to know you are happy
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:48
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is classist, racist, and inequitable.
We need to follow NYC’s lead and get rid of AAP:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1006426.page
long overdue. has become a tool of the upper class at the expense of the average family.
That doesn't make any sense at all. Average families have kids in AAP. Are they at the expense of themselves?
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:48
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is classist, racist, and inequitable.
We need to follow NYC’s lead and get rid of AAP:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1006426.page
long overdue. has become a tool of the upper class at the expense of the average family.
So all of those immigrant Asians are now elitist upper class not average families?
And you guys wonder why the state flipped red.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:47
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is classist, racist, and inequitable.
We need to follow NYC’s lead and get rid of AAP:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1006426.page
long overdue. has become a tool of the upper class at the expense of the average family.
when elementary schools like Springhill have over 60% of the students as "gifted", something is not correct.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:47
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I had a teacher this year say she had kids on 3-4 different levels for reading and math.
My kids always had that within AAP. My kid's AAP class had a reading group of kids below grade level, a group of kids on grade level, three or so groups of kids one year above grade level, and one group of 2 years above grade level. My kid's group almost never got to work with the teacher.
Likewise, math had kids who were seriously struggling with the work through kids who were bored out of their minds and could have completed the work 2 grade levels earlier. The teachers just taught to the level of the struggling kids and provided no extensions or differentiation for the kids who were well beyond the level being taught.
My kid's AAP class didn't really have reading groups or math groups of different levels. All students were taught at the same high level. And a number of kids were sort of left behind, especially in math.
Interesting. My AAP 4th grader reports at her center some kids get pull outs from the math resource teacher for extra challenge when a unit isn't hard enough. Meanwhile other kids from other AAP classes come into her class for some math group time and in other cases kids from her class go to other classes. So they have a pretty robust grouping system at our center. AFAIK the groups vary by unit.
Yep. My LLIV class does the same.
Pullouts are better. Getting left behind is really not.
PP here, in agree that getting left behind or feeling dumb at math isn't the best. That's why I'm not at all on board with the idea of expanding AAP to everyone. Some modified form of critical thinking lessons? Yes. The AAP curriculum? No.
Yes.
Also- this is elementary school.
Just wait until puberty hits and effs all of that up.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:46
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:It is classist, racist, and inequitable.
We need to follow NYC’s lead and get rid of AAP:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1006426.page
long overdue. has become a tool of the upper class at the expense of the average family.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:45
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.
Oh honey, it’s true.
But we didn’t even need to put them there to begin with. They are constantly being educated through our parenting skills such that they would test into aap regardless.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:44
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.
I feel sad for your idea of gifted kids.
AAP isn't a "gifted" program.
Tell that to the commonwealth that requires school districts to have a GT program, Ms. Eyeroll.
It maybe checks off that requirement, but it's not a "gifted" program.
Wow. I mean sure that’s your opinion but as my fifth grader tested outside of seventh grade math already I would beg to differ.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:43
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Totally disagree. In other countries, there is no shame in pursuing trades rather than college degrees. Many kids here would be much better off if they became electricians, plumbers, HVAC specialists, etc. than they are with getting their English lit degree from a 3rd tier school, going into massive debt, and ending up working at Starbucks anyway.
I think you missed my point.
If you want to study something outside of what you are tracked for in Europe- say for instance you are tracked to be a mechanic but want to be a physicist- you need to leave Europe and go to school in America to do it.
It’s great that hvac jobs are valued there. They are valued here too at 80-90k a year. But here- no one has tests that keep you from even going to college. That’s the difference. We track but we don’t say you need to leave the country to follow your dreams because of a National tracking system.
I think you missed my point. If you're tracked for vocational school but want to be a physicist, then you most likely lack the aptitude to have a real chance to be a physicist. It's much kinder to direct you toward a field in which you can be successful than it is to encourage you to follow your dreams and then watch you fail miserably, often racking up quite a bit of debt in the process.
Also, Europe is quite large, and the countries all handle tracking very differently. Few of them are as rigid as you're suggesting. In Germany, for example, there are still ways to move your kid up to the higher track or place your kid in it. They just aren't going to slow down or remediate for your child.
Wait- I think we are agreeing on the same thing but in different ways.
I personally think if you want to be a physicist and want to go to college for it, you should try. But if everything points to you failing at it because you’re not smart enough- then you really don’t need aap in Es.
And that tracking is way worse in Europe than it is here. Lol
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:42
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.
I feel sad for your idea of gifted kids.
AAP isn't a "gifted" program.
Tell that to the commonwealth that requires school districts to have a GT program, Ms. Eyeroll.
It maybe checks off that requirement, but it's not a "gifted" program.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:34
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:
PP here, in agree that getting left behind or feeling dumb at math isn't the best. That's why I'm not at all on board with the idea of expanding AAP to everyone. Some modified form of critical thinking lessons? Yes. The AAP curriculum? No.
This is already done at all schools. The AART visits every class regularly and does different activities with all of the kids as part of the Level I AAP program. I am not saying that it is great but it is already happening.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:33
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.
I feel sad for your idea of gifted kids.
AAP isn't a "gifted" program.
Tell that to the commonwealth that requires school districts to have a GT program, Ms. Eyeroll.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:32
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.
I feel sad for your idea of gifted kids.
AAP isn't a "gifted" program.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:27
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.
I feel sad for your idea of gifted kids.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 13:27
Subject: The entire AAP program should be eliminated
Anonymous wrote:We must beat NY to the bottom.
To the top! Seriously, the kids in AAP will be fine with or without it. Their parents will still put them through outside enrichment and prep classes.