Interesting interview to Donnie Wahlberg about growing up in Boston in the 1970s, and being bussed to integrated schools. The parents were all up in arms, but the kids were fine with it. He believes he benefited from the experience.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Aq62qb/

Based on the meetings I have attended (all October ) Scenario 4 will be the one voted on and in Dr Reid’s words “minor tweaks”. Expect that people trying to get changes on that map will have to fight really hard to make it happen. It will not be easy. They are practically wasting our time with the meetings and having us send them our thoughts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tune in by zoom for these meetings. Scenario 4 was driven by input and BRAC. Who screams the loudest gets what they want.

10/16 Reid:
1. SPA's will be available in response to a question from someone dev scenarios. Community participant -Static SPA's do not account for students in new residential - ie Tysons area new builds.
2. Expects no macro changes - could be other changes for scenario 5 based on community comments and BRAC.
3. no response I heard on the 1 comment I heard on Kingsley Commons- isolated feed now to Timberlane and might be only SPA assigned to Jackson/Falls Church. It's a sad mess for that community which didn't appear to participate.
4. Relooking at TOV now assigned to Marshall in scenario 4

Lots of Lemon Rd commenters- less than 25% and some years 10% are in boundary for Longfellow/Mclean. Some want split redrawn so more goes to Mclean- ie Route 7 is the line.

It’s such a difficult situation. It’s great that the Jefferson Village/Greenway Downs neighborhoods get to attend the same school instead of being split between three, but Kingsley Commons is being sacrificed to achieve it.

Graham Road will lose Title I status and the distribution of the Hollywood Road apartments will put a larger strain on Shrevewood without them qualifying for Title I resources. They’ll be 50/50 FARMs.

Timber Lane will suffer worst. The McLean neighborhoods will get what they want (to stay at McLean) while the Kingsley Commons community will be an attendance island split feeder, crossing RT 29 to attend elementary school outside the Falls Church HS community.

Throwback to Obama celebrating the achievements of that community: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-graham-road-elementary-school-falls-church-virginia

Did they explain why move the Hollywood Road residents to Shrevewood? Seems they should stay at Timber Lane, and Kingsley Road makes more sense to be at Pine Spring. If they need to then shift some of Pine Spring -> Shrevewood to balance capacity, could reassign the portion outside the beltway since it's not walking distance nor community-connected to either school (about same drive/bus time either way). Maybe there's a good reason for it the way it is but if so it's not evident from the map.

Has anyone said anything about Dunn Loring in any of these meetings? My kids were at Shrevewood pre-Covid when it was overcrowded and we asked for a boundary review. Karl F. took advantage of Covid to cancel the boundary review and plan for a school that nobody wanted or needed and now Shrevewood is under capacity and I haven't heard anything about Dunn Loring being cancelled.

Yes , Dr Reid said Dunn losing is no where close and 10 years from now it may come into play.

I was shocked by this. The CIP has it completed before 2030.

Shrevewood has capacity because their once thriving Local Level IV jumped ship to the center, while others went private during COVID and never came back.

*loring

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tune in by zoom for these meetings. Scenario 4 was driven by input and BRAC. Who screams the loudest gets what they want.

10/16 Reid:
1. SPA's will be available in response to a question from someone dev scenarios. Community participant -Static SPA's do not account for students in new residential - ie Tysons area new builds.
2. Expects no macro changes - could be other changes for scenario 5 based on community comments and BRAC.
3. no response I heard on the 1 comment I heard on Kingsley Commons- isolated feed now to Timberlane and might be only SPA assigned to Jackson/Falls Church. It's a sad mess for that community which didn't appear to participate.
4. Relooking at TOV now assigned to Marshall in scenario 4

Lots of Lemon Rd commenters- less than 25% and some years 10% are in boundary for Longfellow/Mclean. Some want split redrawn so more goes to Mclean- ie Route 7 is the line.

It’s such a difficult situation. It’s great that the Jefferson Village/Greenway Downs neighborhoods get to attend the same school instead of being split between three, but Kingsley Commons is being sacrificed to achieve it.

Graham Road will lose Title I status and the distribution of the Hollywood Road apartments will put a larger strain on Shrevewood without them qualifying for Title I resources. They’ll be 50/50 FARMs.

Timber Lane will suffer worst. The McLean neighborhoods will get what they want (to stay at McLean) while the Kingsley Commons community will be an attendance island split feeder, crossing RT 29 to attend elementary school outside the Falls Church HS community.

Throwback to Obama celebrating the achievements of that community: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-graham-road-elementary-school-falls-church-virginia

Did they explain why move the Hollywood Road residents to Shrevewood? Seems they should stay at Timber Lane, and Kingsley Road makes more sense to be at Pine Spring. If they need to then shift some of Pine Spring -> Shrevewood to balance capacity, could reassign the portion outside the beltway since it's not walking distance nor community-connected to either school (about same drive/bus time either way). Maybe there's a good reason for it the way it is but if so it's not evident from the map.

Has anyone said anything about Dunn Loring in any of these meetings? My kids were at Shrevewood pre-Covid when it was overcrowded and we asked for a boundary review. Karl F. took advantage of Covid to cancel the boundary review and plan for a school that nobody wanted or needed and now Shrevewood is under capacity and I haven't heard anything about Dunn Loring being cancelled.

Yes , Dr Reid said Dunn losing is no where close and 10 years from now it may come into play.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tune in by zoom for these meetings. Scenario 4 was driven by input and BRAC. Who screams the loudest gets what they want.

10/16 Reid:
1. SPA's will be available in response to a question from someone dev scenarios. Community participant -Static SPA's do not account for students in new residential - ie Tysons area new builds.
2. Expects no macro changes - could be other changes for scenario 5 based on community comments and BRAC.
3. no response I heard on the 1 comment I heard on Kingsley Commons- isolated feed now to Timberlane and might be only SPA assigned to Jackson/Falls Church. It's a sad mess for that community which didn't appear to participate.
4. Relooking at TOV now assigned to Marshall in scenario 4

Lots of Lemon Rd commenters- less than 25% and some years 10% are in boundary for Longfellow/Mclean. Some want split redrawn so more goes to Mclean- ie Route 7 is the line.

It’s such a difficult situation. It’s great that the Jefferson Village/Greenway Downs neighborhoods get to attend the same school instead of being split between three, but Kingsley Commons is being sacrificed to achieve it.

Graham Road will lose Title I status and the distribution of the Hollywood Road apartments will put a larger strain on Shrevewood without them qualifying for Title I resources. They’ll be 50/50 FARMs.

Timber Lane will suffer worst. The McLean neighborhoods will get what they want (to stay at McLean) while the Kingsley Commons community will be an attendance island split feeder, crossing RT 29 to attend elementary school outside the Falls Church HS community.

Throwback to Obama celebrating the achievements of that community: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-graham-road-elementary-school-falls-church-virginia

Did they explain why move the Hollywood Road residents to Shrevewood? Seems they should stay at Timber Lane, and Kingsley Road makes more sense to be at Pine Spring. If they need to then shift some of Pine Spring -> Shrevewood to balance capacity, could reassign the portion outside the beltway since it's not walking distance nor community-connected to either school (about same drive/bus time either way). Maybe there's a good reason for it the way it is but if so it's not evident from the map.

Has anyone said anything about Dunn Loring in any of these meetings? My kids were at Shrevewood pre-Covid when it was overcrowded and we asked for a boundary review. Karl F. took advantage of Covid to cancel the boundary review and plan for a school that nobody wanted or needed and now Shrevewood is under capacity and I haven't heard anything about Dunn Loring being cancelled.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amendment to the policy to allow such substantial grandfathering was so stupid. Especially considering there will be another review in five years. The boundary changes will barely be done when more changes might happen. They definitely can’t provide transportation to all who choose to stay. Would be highly irresponsible to waste money that way.

Grandfathering makes sense.

The stupid part is countywide rezoning every 5 years.

No one wants that for our kids and communities.

This is actually pretty standard in a lot of places. I don't think they're going to do something massive like this every 5 years, but it allows them the flexibility to make needed changes. Like moving Herndon addresses to Herndon schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tune in by zoom for these meetings. Scenario 4 was driven by input and BRAC. Who screams the loudest gets what they want.

10/16 Reid:
1. SPA's will be available in response to a question from someone dev scenarios. Community participant -Static SPA's do not account for students in new residential - ie Tysons area new builds.
2. Expects no macro changes - could be other changes for scenario 5 based on community comments and BRAC.
3. no response I heard on the 1 comment I heard on Kingsley Commons- isolated feed now to Timberlane and might be only SPA assigned to Jackson/Falls Church. It's a sad mess for that community which didn't appear to participate.
4. Relooking at TOV now assigned to Marshall in scenario 4

Lots of Lemon Rd commenters- less than 25% and some years 10% are in boundary for Longfellow/Mclean. Some want split redrawn so more goes to Mclean- ie Route 7 is the line.

It’s such a difficult situation. It’s great that the Jefferson Village/Greenway Downs neighborhoods get to attend the same school instead of being split between three, but Kingsley Commons is being sacrificed to achieve it.

Graham Road will lose Title I status and the distribution of the Hollywood Road apartments will put a larger strain on Shrevewood without them qualifying for Title I resources. They’ll be 50/50 FARMs.

Timber Lane will suffer worst. The McLean neighborhoods will get what they want (to stay at McLean) while the Kingsley Commons community will be an attendance island split feeder, crossing RT 29 to attend elementary school outside the Falls Church HS community.

Throwback to Obama celebrating the achievements of that community: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-graham-road-elementary-school-falls-church-virginia

Did they explain why move the Hollywood Road residents to Shrevewood? Seems they should stay at Timber Lane, and Kingsley Road makes more sense to be at Pine Spring. If they need to then shift some of Pine Spring -> Shrevewood to balance capacity, could reassign the portion outside the beltway since it's not walking distance nor community-connected to either school (about same drive/bus time either way). Maybe there's a good reason for it the way it is but if so it's not evident from the map.

This is why the SPA numbers are critical. To put it into context, the Hollywood Road apartments has about 120 elementary students. That itsy bitsy blip of an SPA for Kingsley Commons is more than 325 elementary students. That’s 60% of Pine Springs capacity, 48% of Timber Lane, and 82% of Graham Road. There’s no trimming around the edges to make space.

One could argue, that when they knowingly built the school outside its attendance zone, they should have expanded it. Graham Road has a program capacity of 398 and a building capacity of 660. Timber Lane, also a Title
I school has a program capacity of 600 and a building capacity of 930. This allows them to have a blend of apartment complexes and single family neighborhoods.

The choices are bad. They can either leave Kingsley Commons at Graham Road and move Greenway Downs and Jefferson Village past their closest school and across 29 to Timber Lane. Or they can implement their current plan where a bunch of SFH get their very own neighborhood school right in their backyard and they bus the poor kids out of pyramid and across the busy street.

Reset not resent although I do resent this school board

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amendment to the policy to allow such substantial grandfathering was so stupid. Especially considering there will be another review in five years. The boundary changes will barely be done when more changes might happen. They definitely can’t provide transportation to all who choose to stay. Would be highly irresponsible to waste money that way.

Grandfathering makes sense.

The stupid part is countywide rezoning every 5 years.

No one wants that for our kids and communities.

Tweaks have been made every time. A review of the data every 5 years is prudent. Doesn’t mean sweeping changes user necessary every 5 years. Not reviewing them every 5 years seems irresponsible.

What is irresponsible is that the zoning board and school system don’t ever seem to work together for common sense growth.

5 years isn’t “prudent”. When does the 5 years resent from the beginning of this mess (in which 2 years are already gone) or from the time of changes. Even then is it the beginning or the end of that school year?

They are moving for capacity issues. The problem would not be solved with grandfathering so many.

If they aren’t going to provide transportation for grandfathering, they should open it up to more grades. In the most recent elementary school rezones they grandfathered 2nd graders and up. I assume there was logic behind that being the reasonable thing to do, so it should be applied here as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The amendment to the policy to allow such substantial grandfathering was so stupid. Especially considering there will be another review in five years. The boundary changes will barely be done when more changes might happen. They definitely can’t provide transportation to all who choose to stay. Would be highly irresponsible to waste money that way.

Grandfathering makes sense.

The stupid part is countywide rezoning every 5 years.

No one wants that for our kids and communities.

Tweaks have been made every time. A review of the data every 5 years is prudent. Doesn’t mean sweeping changes user necessary every 5 years. Not reviewing them every 5 years seems irresponsible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tune in by zoom for these meetings. Scenario 4 was driven by input and BRAC. Who screams the loudest gets what they want.

10/16 Reid:
1. SPA's will be available in response to a question from someone dev scenarios. Community participant -Static SPA's do not account for students in new residential - ie Tysons area new builds.
2. Expects no macro changes - could be other changes for scenario 5 based on community comments and BRAC.
3. no response I heard on the 1 comment I heard on Kingsley Commons- isolated feed now to Timberlane and might be only SPA assigned to Jackson/Falls Church. It's a sad mess for that community which didn't appear to participate.
4. Relooking at TOV now assigned to Marshall in scenario 4

Lots of Lemon Rd commenters- less than 25% and some years 10% are in boundary for Longfellow/Mclean. Some want split redrawn so more goes to Mclean- ie Route 7 is the line.

It’s such a difficult situation. It’s great that the Jefferson Village/Greenway Downs neighborhoods get to attend the same school instead of being split between three, but Kingsley Commons is being sacrificed to achieve it.

Graham Road will lose Title I status and the distribution of the Hollywood Road apartments will put a larger strain on Shrevewood without them qualifying for Title I resources. They’ll be 50/50 FARMs.

Timber Lane will suffer worst. The McLean neighborhoods will get what they want (to stay at McLean) while the Kingsley Commons community will be an attendance island split feeder, crossing RT 29 to attend elementary school outside the Falls Church HS community.

Throwback to Obama celebrating the achievements of that community: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-graham-road-elementary-school-falls-church-virginia

Did they explain why move the Hollywood Road residents to Shrevewood? Seems they should stay at Timber Lane, and Kingsley Road makes more sense to be at Pine Spring. If they need to then shift some of Pine Spring -> Shrevewood to balance capacity, could reassign the portion outside the beltway since it's not walking distance nor community-connected to either school (about same drive/bus time either way). Maybe there's a good reason for it the way it is but if so it's not evident from the map.

Anonymous wrote:The amendment to the policy to allow such substantial grandfathering was so stupid. Especially considering there will be another review in five years. The boundary changes will barely be done when more changes might happen. They definitely can’t provide transportation to all who choose to stay. Would be highly irresponsible to waste money that way.

Grandfathering makes sense.

The stupid part is countywide rezoning every 5 years.

No one wants that for our kids and communities.