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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.

You can't have low (or really, not absurdly high) premiums without denying some care.

The point is they would regularly deny care they had promised to provide (and had collected premiums for).

What is deemed "medically necessary and appropriate" is, to some degree, subjective.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.

You can't have low (or really, not absurdly high) premiums without denying some care.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they really find Monopoly money in the backpack!?

Anonymous wrote:This is a strange quote.

How does it help to broadcast you are not sharing the killer’s name so he doesn’t have an advantage?? How does sharing the name give the killer an advantage??

“Adams was quoted by the Post as saying the police were withholding the suspect's name for now to deny him any advantage.”

“We don’t want to release that now,” the mayor said. “If you do, you are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask."


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-mayor-says-suspect-identified-unitedhealth-executives-murder-ny-post-reports-2024-12-07/

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.

You can't have low (or really, not absurdly high) premiums without denying some care.

The point is they would regularly deny care they had promised to provide (and had collected premiums for).

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Anonymous wrote:Nah people are making this a movie worthy plot scenario. The simplest path is more likely.

We’ve got a young guy with a vendetta.

Most young men don’t have a vandettas against insurance CEOs

Exactly, he was hired. By who and for what motive is the question. Personally, I think the CEO knew too much the Russian cybersecurity incident.

This is my vote too, which I said upthread. Someone in politics posted a book called Autocracy, Inc. which I haven’t read, but the premise is autocracies aren’t necessarily what we think - one evil ruler. It’s rather different groups who are large and sophisticated, who do business with corrupt countries and businesses. Trump is inflaming this. It sounds like big-time players being disgruntled, though it could be the insider trading too.

Anonymous wrote:Divers search Central Park waters for the gun but haven't heard much about the gun or bike. Bloomberg reports the backpack also had a jacket.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.

You can't have low (or really, not absurdly high) premiums without denying some care.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.

Anonymous wrote:This is a strange quote.

How does it help to broadcast you are not sharing the killer’s name so he doesn’t have an advantage?? How does sharing the name give the killer an advantage??

“Adams was quoted by the Post as saying the police were withholding the suspect's name for now to deny him any advantage.”

“We don’t want to release that now,” the mayor said. “If you do, you are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask."


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-mayor-says-suspect-identified-unitedhealth-executives-murder-ny-post-reports-2024-12-07/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nah people are making this a movie worthy plot scenario. The simplest path is more likely.

We’ve got a young guy with a vendetta.

Most young men don’t have a vandettas against insurance CEOs

Exactly, he was hired. By who and for what motive is the question. Personally, I think the CEO knew too much the Russian cybersecurity incident.

Anonymous wrote:I saw of video of the shooter walking along casually and dumping some type of object in trash bags piled up on the side of the road. Now some FBI agent/cop has to find AND sift through all the bags of trash hauled during that timeframe to find what he threw away.

Did he discard the purchased items, and police collected them as evidence? Did he dump something else?

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Anonymous wrote:Went to a Scottish Wlak party in Old Town today that included bigwig politicians I won't name but locals will know who I mean.

All of them. All.Of. Them. Basically celebrated this D bag's demise.

The guy made 10MM (in Minnesota) because he denied life saving measures to enough people that UHC called 10MM fair compensation.

Think about that.

People keep saying this but what’s the basis for it? He was the CEO of a 40B/ye revenue company. That’s .025 percent of annual revenue. I don’t think that’s so abnormal in the corporate world. Is there any reason to think that he was personally responsible for policies that wrongfully denied insurance to people? Or do people just hate insurance so much that they think everyone involved in the industry is morally culpable? I don’t know enough about this guy but I find the rhetoric really troubling. People are acting like he’s the evil guy in a John Grisham novel….maybe he is, but I haven’t seen the evidence.