Anonymous wrote:

Look, we landed on the moon because we had a PLAN and OBJECTIVES, we defeated the Japanese because we had a PLAN and OBJECTIVES.

Common Core contains a PLAN and OBJECTIVES.

Getting rid of Common Core gets rid of the PLAN AND OBJECTIVES.

We damn sure didn't defeat the Japanese by having each soldier and sailor wing it entirely on his own, as the anti-CC folks want to have us do by balkanizing education so that Alabama can teach fractions differently than North Dakota, just because "states rights"...

This for sure was a common core supporter. Crazy thinking.

Anonymous wrote:

Look, we landed on the moon because we had a PLAN and OBJECTIVES, we defeated the Japanese because we had a PLAN and OBJECTIVES.

Common Core contains a PLAN and OBJECTIVES.

Getting rid of Common Core gets rid of the PLAN AND OBJECTIVES.

We damn sure didn't defeat the Japanese by having each soldier and sailor wing it entirely on his own, as the anti-CC folks want to have us do by balkanizing education so that Alabama can teach fractions differently than North Dakota, just because "states rights"...

This for sure was a common core supporter. Crazy thinking.

Anonymous wrote:

They got a much better education back then - much more content and rigor. But then things went downhill, and for the last couple of decades, the content a student was exposed to by 8th grade has been nowhere near what it was back then. Common Core is trying to raise the bar again

They did it without centralized standards. They did it with education run by the local school boards and states. What changed? The demand that everyone needs to go to college. Getting rid of vocational education. etc..

Look, we landed on the moon because we had a PLAN and OBJECTIVES, we defeated the Japanese because we had a PLAN and OBJECTIVES.

Common Core contains a PLAN and OBJECTIVES.

Getting rid of Common Core gets rid of the PLAN AND OBJECTIVES.

We damn sure didn't defeat the Japanese by having each soldier and sailor wing it entirely on his own, as the anti-CC folks want to have us do by balkanizing education so that Alabama can teach fractions differently than North Dakota, just because "states rights"...

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, Zamperini had grit and was a survivor, and it's a truly fantastic story of survival. But again, while it is a great story and he is certainly a hero, that isn't the story of how we won WWII. Remember, Zamperini was shot down and he spent his time in the Pacific Campaign in a POW camp until the war ended.

Did you even read the book? You didn't learn anything about the American can do attitude? You didn't learn anything about the ingenuity of the American GI?

They got a much better education back then - much more content and rigor. But then things went downhill, and for the last couple of decades, the content a student was exposed to by 8th grade has been nowhere near what it was back then. Common Core is trying to raise the bar again

Anonymous wrote:

This is the country that defeated the Japanese, landed on the moon, and so much more. Those things were not easy either. They weren't just "done". Sometimes the things that are easy to do are not the ones that matter.

Nobody is saying this will be easy. We can see that it won't be, but we're not quitters. This is worth winning.

this was the original post that brought up WW2. Sounds like a CC supporter to me.

..how would you persuade everybody (state governors, state legislatures, state boards of education, local boards of education, municipalities and localities) to spend the money on teachers that they had previously spent on NCLB tests? (Keeping in mind that the NCLB testing requirement has nothing to do with the Common Core State Standards.

Yes, Zamperini had grit and was a survivor, and it's a truly fantastic story of survival. But again, while it is a great story and he is certainly a hero, that isn't the story of how we won WWII. Remember, Zamperini was shot down and he spent his time in the Pacific Campaign in a POW camp until the war ended.

This is the country that defeated the Japanese, landed on the moon, and so much more. Those things were not easy either. They weren't just "done". Sometimes the things that are easy to do are not the ones that matter.

Nobody is saying this will be easy. We can see that it won't be, but we're not quitters. This is worth winning.

Anonymous wrote:

The real stories are not the ones told by the "central planners". Try reading "Unbroken" or "The Forgotten Highlander". Those are the real stories. The real stories in education and the real warriors are in the classrooms. They need to be heard.

Great post!

Saw a show the other night about submariners in the Pacific. Bravery, grit, and ingenuity.

Anonymous wrote:

the shrill anti-CC hysteria is what jumped the shark, long, long ago. Did we really need to still sit through the 57th, 64th, 127th time that someone shrieked "the standards are developmentally inappropriate" only to hear crickets chirping when someone asked "which standard, specifically - and by what criteria, by what study, by what data?"

That debate was LOST and OVER the very first time it came up - and the first time the anti-CC crowd came up empty on a response. Yet it keeps coming around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around....

Gotta hand it to people for having the extreme patience for dealing with this nutty anti-CC crowd.

Extreme? Comparing Common Core to our war efforts--that's extreme. And wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

News flash: Most people did not go past 8th grade back then. Many did not even make it to 8th grade so you had the strongest students going to school. My grandparents were some of the ones who didn't go that far. We were a much more agricultural country before WW2. WW2 changed everything in terms of industrialization and going to school longer. But even through the 1970's there were much higher drop out rates that were deemed acceptable.

+10000

I had a family member who was writing editorials on a Pulitzer Prize winning newspaper when he was 21--with an eighth grade education.

The real stories are not the ones told by the "central planners". Try reading "Unbroken" or "The Forgotten Highlander". Those are the real stories. The real stories in education and the real warriors are in the classrooms. They need to be heard.

The real stories are not the ones told by the "central planners". Try reading "Unbroken" or "The Forgotten Highlander". Those are the real stories. The real stories in education and the real warriors are in the classrooms. They need to be heard.