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Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Wait, what?
Did they charge you $3000 for a team coached by a parent?

Yes ... it's not going well.

OMG, Valor is ridiculous. You shouldn't pay the same price for a crappy parent coach as you do for a professional coach.
Did they tell you it would be a parent coach when they offered your player a spot on the team?

No

Wow…that’s laughable. I’m not surprised at all. Valors a joke, they play in tournaments against low level teams so they can market wins. The parents love it and buy into that crap. The kids overall development suffers. The strategy is complete garbage. A parent coach…on brand and typical for this club. My kid left long ago. His friends/the parents decided to stay are 4 divisions lower. Lots of nepotism, its pay to play and wait in line. In the past three seasons, I would say about 70% of the parents, their kid has yet to progress or advance to the next division. Good luck with that.

And your kid will end up right where his friends are. Playing his last game in May and headed off the college that fall. His friends stayed together and had a blast while your kid was elite until he wasn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Wait, what?
Did they charge you $3000 for a team coached by a parent?

Yes ... it's not going well.

OMG, Valor is ridiculous. You shouldn't pay the same price for a crappy parent coach as you do for a professional coach.
Did they tell you it would be a parent coach when they offered your player a spot on the team?

No

Wow…that’s laughable. I’m not surprised at all. Valors a joke, they play in tournaments against low level teams so they can market wins. The parents love it and buy into that crap. The kids overall development suffers. The strategy is complete garbage. A parent coach…on brand and typical for this club. My kid left long ago. His friends/the parents decided to stay are 4 divisions lower. Lots of nepotism, its pay to play and wait in line. In the past three seasons, I would say about 70% of the parents, their kid has yet to progress or advance to the next division. Good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Wait, what?
Did they charge you $3000 for a team coached by a parent?

Yes ... it's not going well.

OMG, Valor is ridiculous. You shouldn't pay the same price for a crappy parent coach as you do for a professional coach.
Did they tell you it would be a parent coach when they offered your player a spot on the team?

No

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Did this parent have any professional coaching experience?
I'm baffled by this whole situation. I assume Valor is paying this parent coach the same rate they pay their real coaches.

So compared to rec----you are basically paying $2800 more than rec soccer for one extra practice a week. Run by a know-nothing parent coach.

No professional coaching experience that I am aware of. Valor does occasionally have people walking around monitoring the practices. I think there is some thought and preparation and effort that is going into the practices. So it's not a total loss. It's the games where the favortism and tone and inability to coach really is amplified.

Anonymous wrote:I'll add yes this has been going on all of this season.

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Anonymous wrote:Clubs allow rec teams to bolt on all the time to play under the club name. It allows the team to stay together and operate almost independently. This sounds like the the case and if so, yall knew what you were getting into and this isn't a valor thing. THey all do it.

That's not what happened here. OP's kid tried out and got a Valor "Congratulations, you made the Rainbow team!" email. No coach was mentioned at the tryouts or in the email. Then, once the team started practicing, she learned the coach was actually a parent. But she's paying Regular Valor Retail pricing, not Parent Coach Rec Team discount pricing.

Sounds more like they played at Valor last year and got moved down to the rec team at tryouts. Valor does their tryouts so late in the year probably had little to no options at that time but to stay.

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Anonymous wrote:Clubs allow rec teams to bolt on all the time to play under the club name. It allows the team to stay together and operate almost independently. This sounds like the the case and if so, yall knew what you were getting into and this isn't a valor thing. THey all do it.

That's not what happened here. OP's kid tried out and got a Valor "Congratulations, you made the Rainbow team!" email. No coach was mentioned at the tryouts or in the email. Then, once the team started practicing, she learned the coach was actually a parent. But she's paying Regular Valor Retail pricing, not Parent Coach Rec Team discount pricing.

Sounds more like they played at Valor last year and got moved down to the rec team at tryouts. Valor does their tryouts so late in the year probably had little to no options at that time but to stay.

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Anonymous wrote:Clubs allow rec teams to bolt on all the time to play under the club name. It allows the team to stay together and operate almost independently. This sounds like the the case and if so, yall knew what you were getting into and this isn't a valor thing. THey all do it.

That's not what happened here. OP's kid tried out and got a Valor "Congratulations, you made the Rainbow team!" email. No coach was mentioned at the tryouts or in the email. Then, once the team started practicing, she learned the coach was actually a parent. But she's paying Regular Valor Retail pricing, not Parent Coach Rec Team discount pricing.

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Anonymous wrote:OK folks now you know.

If your player get an offer from a valor team--especially a low level team--get it in writing that it will be a non-parent coach before you accept.

Really, you shouldn't have to do that because literally people leave rec for travel to get away from parent coaches and hey! you are paying $3000 but Valor tries to screw everyone over all the time.

The thing is even if it is a paid coach with a decent resume it can still go bad. Last year our girls got a great coach on paper. In real life he was terrible. He missed games, practices, would cancel practice for no reason and in general did NOTHING with the girls at practice if he was to show up. We ended up having 7ish players leave the team It was bad.

This year we have a paid coach who has great intentions and he is doing his best.

Valor in general does NOT care about making your kid better, They only care about money. This works for us because our kid likes soccer but doesnt LOVE it. Location is great for games and practice. It is just something for them to do. IF your kid is serious about soccer it is not a secret to stay away from VALOR. We will probably keep losing kids over the years since the club cannot keep the kids that want to get better engaged.

We also had a kid on another team and at tryouts we were told who the coach would be. That august the coach decided to do something else and left us coachless. Our other kid LOVES soccer so we moved them but I would assume everyone is now aware that valor is just an expensive rec league. This should not be a surprise.

Anonymous wrote:Clubs allow rec teams to bolt on all the time to play under the club name. It allows the team to stay together and operate almost independently. This sounds like the the case and if so, yall knew what you were getting into and this isn't a valor thing. THey all do it.

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Anonymous wrote:OK folks now you know.

If your player get an offer from a valor team--especially a low level team--get it in writing that it will be a non-parent coach before you accept.

Really, you shouldn't have to do that because literally people leave rec for travel to get away from parent coaches and hey! you are paying $3000 but Valor tries to screw everyone over all the time.

The thing is even if it is a paid coach with a decent resume it can still go bad. Last year our girls got a great coach on paper. In real life he was terrible. He missed games, practices, would cancel practice for no reason and in general did NOTHING with the girls at practice if he was to show up. We ended up having 7ish players leave the team It was bad.

This year we have a paid coach who has great intentions and he is doing his best.

Valor in general does NOT care about making your kid better, They only care about money. This works for us because our kid likes soccer but doesnt LOVE it. Location is great for games and practice. It is just something for them to do. IF your kid is serious about soccer it is not a secret to stay away from VALOR. We will probably keep losing kids over the years since the club cannot keep the kids that want to get better engaged.

We also had a kid on another team and at tryouts we were told who the coach would be. That august the coach decided to do something else and left us coachless. Our other kid LOVES soccer so we moved them but I would assume everyone is now aware that valor is just an expensive rec league. This should not be a surprise.

I feel like this is going to be us. It made sense to start at Valor because we had no idea about anything related to soccer and it was the club linked to the rec league. One kid has grown to love soccer and would love more of a challenge to get better. But it feels like this isn't the place to do it. The coaching isn't good enough and not enough kids care and/or are not learning. It feels like we have to get out if we want our kid to keep loving the game and improving. PP, was it hard to find a new place for your kid? I worry about having to go down a level just to get out. Agree that Valor is fine for a kid who likes but doesn't love soccer. This is our other kid too.

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Anonymous wrote:OK folks now you know.

If your player get an offer from a valor team--especially a low level team--get it in writing that it will be a non-parent coach before you accept.

Really, you shouldn't have to do that because literally people leave rec for travel to get away from parent coaches and hey! you are paying $3000 but Valor tries to screw everyone over all the time.

The thing is even if it is a paid coach with a decent resume it can still go bad. Last year our girls got a great coach on paper. In real life he was terrible. He missed games, practices, would cancel practice for no reason and in general did NOTHING with the girls at practice if he was to show up. We ended up having 7ish players leave the team It was bad.

This year we have a paid coach who has great intentions and he is doing his best.

Valor in general does NOT care about making your kid better, They only care about money. This works for us because our kid likes soccer but doesnt LOVE it. Location is great for games and practice. It is just something for them to do. IF your kid is serious about soccer it is not a secret to stay away from VALOR. We will probably keep losing kids over the years since the club cannot keep the kids that want to get better engaged.

We also had a kid on another team and at tryouts we were told who the coach would be. That august the coach decided to do something else and left us coachless. Our other kid LOVES soccer so we moved them but I would assume everyone is now aware that valor is just an expensive rec league. This should not be a surprise.