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Post 06/08/2023 02:16     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

The front isn’t moving. Money flowing. People dying.

Cheer it on. For K Street. For the the Donbas.
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Post 06/07/2023 23:42     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


^ bot spewing moral lowering propaganda designed to grind down and influence others to simply “give in” to the invasion. Fk off.


That's the truth, not propaganda. Without the Western weapons, money and materiel, the war would have been over quickly. I don't know why you argue with the obvious.


Dp- Right… that’s right. I remember Russia taking Kiev in 3 days 😂


+1 I remember listening to Radio Sputnik on 2/24/2022. They said the defeat of Ukraine was a fait accompli. There was no use discussing whether the invasion was right or wrong. It has simply happened, and now the only question was how do we adjust to a world without Ukraine.


If the West was confident that Ukraine would prevail by itself, they wouldn't be sending weapons.


We are sending weapons just because it is fun. Have you watched the videos of Russian stuff getting blown up? They are hilarious!

It is our past time since most major sports are just about done here and in Europe.


You're a sicko. They're definitely not hilarious. I don't care who it is... getting blown apart, burned alive, dismembered, etc. is never hilarious.


No, it's pretty funny watching a bully get their comeuppance.

What's not funny is watching a video of someone getting their head smashed in by a hammer. What's not funny is watching an entire population cheering it on and making hammers the must have decorative item of the Christmas season in Moscow. What's not funny is watching reacue workers getting shelled and civilians being prevented from evacuating after a man made disaster.

But russian troops getting blown up after raping goats and each other. That's funny.

I guess you cheered on the Syrians getting buried under the earthquake and the US refusing to lift sanctions even for humanitarian reasons too.


Syria didn't invade anyone you ninny. But yes, civilian deaths are always a tragedy. There just hasn't been any russian civilian deaths because russia is the one that invaded Ukraine. The civilian deaths have all been Ukrainian. Just like the poor souls clinging to their rooftops in russian occupied Kherson. Clinging to their rooftops because russia blew up a dam. Clinging to their rooftops because russia lreventing them from evacuating and isn't doing anything to try and save them. Clinging to their rooftops in the hope a Ukrainian drone will see them, give them some water and call a rescue team (which will promptly be shelled at by the russians).

Yes, I see you care a lot about civilians.


Didn't help them much, did it? Under sanctions, with humanitarian supplies blocked. No chance to rebuild. And the US committed to preventing other countries from helping Syria rebuild.

But, yeah. Civilians.
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Post 06/07/2023 23:38     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?


Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.


I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/


Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.


The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!


I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."


I don't remember KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, etc. using incendiary weapons on civilian cities, or invading neighbor countries and stealing their children, raping their women and murdering the elderly so they could steal what was in their homes? Can you refresh my memory please?


Oh I will! With the greatest of pleasures! Remember that war in Yemen that starved thousands of children? Killed a bunch of grown-ups, too? That's America good friends the Al-Saud and Al-Rashid and Al-Maktoum. With American intelligence, supplies and refueling!

And these dumb Bahrainis asking for more participation in the government? Shot down by their own government, with the Saudi and American support? Guess they don't count, being brown and all.

And let's not forget the Al-Saud being the greatest source of the ISIS fighters! Tons of rape, pillage and plunder going on there! See, your memory IS faulty.

Besides, all these things you listed? Democracies dabble in these too! I mean the world's greatest democracy bombed Iraq to the ground and prevents humanitarian shipments and rebuilding of Syria. God knows how many children and elderly THAT has killed and will kill.

So you see, it gets tricky picking out allies and pretending you have standards. Every one of them collapses upon close examination.
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Post 06/07/2023 22:30     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?


Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.


I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/


Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.


The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!


I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."


I don't remember KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, etc. using incendiary weapons on civilian cities, or invading neighbor countries and stealing their children, raping their women and murdering the elderly so they could steal what was in their homes? Can you refresh my memory please?

This is why pro-Kremlin Russians are hypocritical trash. Moral relativism is the justification of the guilty.

The US put up with Russia interfering with our elections, spreading propaganda and undermining our institutions - all in the name of peace. The Russian Government took full advantage of it, finding all the useful idiots it could to destroy the US. But the joke is on the Russian Government. The US hasn't fired a single shot, and still the Russian military is a fragment of what it was.

"A local official in the Russian city of Vladimir, 200 kilometers east of Moscow, was detained on June 7 after she threw Molotov cocktails at a military recruitment center."
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-vladimir--recruitment-center-official-molotov/32448670.html

"Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Kateryna Solovyova has condemned Russia's war against Ukraine"
"the son of Kremlin propagandist Volodymyr Solovyov, Danylo, works as a model in London, posing for the camera with a stylish hairstyle, manicure and makeup."
https://tsn.ua/svit/chim-zaymayetsya-v-socmerezhah-donka-propagandista-solovyova-zhurnalistka-povidomila-nespodivani-fakti-2340739.html

"Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) said on June 7 that a resident of the country’s Far East had been detained on a charge of high treason amid a growing number of such cases in recent months. According to the FSB, the suspect, whose identity was not disclosed, had allegedly passed classified information about law enforcement and military infrastructure to Ukrainian intelligence. In the last five months, 20 treason probes have been launched, while in 2022, the number of such cases launched in the country was 22. Almost half of the probes were launched against residents of Russia's Far East."
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-treason-case-far-east-ukraine/32448445.html

Even defectors from the Russian intelligence and security services are being sent back. (https://www.rferl.org/a/poland-deports-fsb-officer-navruzbekov/32448592.html) You know what that tells me? It tells me that the bigger fish in the Kremlin have already cut deals and the little fish have nothing of value anyone wants. The get-out-of-jail-free doors are closed unless a defector has a Golden Ticket.

You know how these things go. Russia failed. Control is breaking down. You've failed - not patriotic enough. Just sit back. Drink up. Not today. Maybe tomorrow. Or the next? Just wait for that knock on the door.
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Post 06/07/2023 22:28     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


^ bot spewing moral lowering propaganda designed to grind down and influence others to simply “give in” to the invasion. Fk off.


That's the truth, not propaganda. Without the Western weapons, money and materiel, the war would have been over quickly. I don't know why you argue with the obvious.


Dp- Right… that’s right. I remember Russia taking Kiev in 3 days 😂


+1 I remember listening to Radio Sputnik on 2/24/2022. They said the defeat of Ukraine was a fait accompli. There was no use discussing whether the invasion was right or wrong. It has simply happened, and now the only question was how do we adjust to a world without Ukraine.


If the West was confident that Ukraine would prevail by itself, they wouldn't be sending weapons.


We are sending weapons just because it is fun. Have you watched the videos of Russian stuff getting blown up? They are hilarious!

It is our past time since most major sports are just about done here and in Europe.


You're a sicko. They're definitely not hilarious. I don't care who it is... getting blown apart, burned alive, dismembered, etc. is never hilarious.


No, it's pretty funny watching a bully get their comeuppance.

What's not funny is watching a video of someone getting their head smashed in by a hammer. What's not funny is watching an entire population cheering it on and making hammers the must have decorative item of the Christmas season in Moscow. What's not funny is watching reacue workers getting shelled and civilians being prevented from evacuating after a man made disaster.

But russian troops getting blown up after raping goats and each other. That's funny.

I guess you cheered on the Syrians getting buried under the earthquake and the US refusing to lift sanctions even for humanitarian reasons too.


Syria didn't invade anyone you ninny. But yes, civilian deaths are always a tragedy. There just hasn't been any russian civilian deaths because russia is the one that invaded Ukraine. The civilian deaths have all been Ukrainian. Just like the poor souls clinging to their rooftops in russian occupied Kherson. Clinging to their rooftops because russia blew up a dam. Clinging to their rooftops because russia lreventing them from evacuating and isn't doing anything to try and save them. Clinging to their rooftops in the hope a Ukrainian drone will see them, give them some water and call a rescue team (which will promptly be shelled at by the russians).

Yes, I see you care a lot about civilians.
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Post 06/07/2023 22:19     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?


Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.


I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/


Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.


The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!


I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."


Do you know what's the difference between Gulf State Arabs and russians? Indoor plumbing

As long as the autocratic country has toilets it's ok.

russia, Afghanistan and North Korea: no toilets = bad
Saudi Arabia, Qatar and China: toilets = good

I feel sorry for the itinerant Bangladeshis and Phillippinos in the Gulf States because the russians are about to take all their menial jobs.


"Because they have toilets" seems like a really dumb take. It's much more about whether they actually work with and cooperate with the West on mutual aims or not. Russia and North Korea not so much lately.


Isn't that what I said upthread? Democracy, human rights, that's unimportant. What's important? Compliance.


and toilets. But mostly toilets.

Hungary. Toilets. Israel. Toilets. South Africa. Toilets. Egypt. Toilets. Cambodia. Toilets. Turkey. Toilets.

North Korea. No toilets. Eritrea. No toilets. russia. No toilets.

The pattern is clear.
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Post 06/07/2023 22:10     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote: Every dictatorship comes with an expiration date . The small Russian despot has no way out of the sh!thole he's dug himself in .


Every regime of every type comes with an expiration date. What's your point?

When will the North Koreans be overthrowing their communist leadership?


The 'expiration date' of a dictatorship and that of a democratically elected government are two different things: one is not like the other . In democracies , there's a constitutional mandate for periodic change (term limits) and so, a peaceful transfer is a built-in feature . Whereas, in a dictatorship the 'expiration date' is usually synonymous with widespread upheaval, instability and,dare I say, bloodshed .

My use of the words 'expiration date' was a very prudent way of saying that, in dictatorships, it almost always end badly for the hegemonic figure that ruled over it.


The Al-Saud seems to be getting along swimmingly. Of course, with America in their corner, how can they not?
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Post 06/07/2023 22:08     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


^ bot spewing moral lowering propaganda designed to grind down and influence others to simply “give in” to the invasion. Fk off.


That's the truth, not propaganda. Without the Western weapons, money and materiel, the war would have been over quickly. I don't know why you argue with the obvious.


Dp- Right… that’s right. I remember Russia taking Kiev in 3 days 😂


+1 I remember listening to Radio Sputnik on 2/24/2022. They said the defeat of Ukraine was a fait accompli. There was no use discussing whether the invasion was right or wrong. It has simply happened, and now the only question was how do we adjust to a world without Ukraine.


If the West was confident that Ukraine would prevail by itself, they wouldn't be sending weapons.


We are sending weapons just because it is fun. Have you watched the videos of Russian stuff getting blown up? They are hilarious!

It is our past time since most major sports are just about done here and in Europe.


You're a sicko. They're definitely not hilarious. I don't care who it is... getting blown apart, burned alive, dismembered, etc. is never hilarious.


No, it's pretty funny watching a bully get their comeuppance.

What's not funny is watching a video of someone getting their head smashed in by a hammer. What's not funny is watching an entire population cheering it on and making hammers the must have decorative item of the Christmas season in Moscow. What's not funny is watching reacue workers getting shelled and civilians being prevented from evacuating after a man made disaster.

But russian troops getting blown up after raping goats and each other. That's funny.

I guess you cheered on the Syrians getting buried under the earthquake and the US refusing to lift sanctions even for humanitarian reasons too.
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Post 06/07/2023 22:06     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?


Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.


I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/


Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.


The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!


I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."


Do you know what's the difference between Gulf State Arabs and russians? Indoor plumbing

As long as the autocratic country has toilets it's ok.

russia, Afghanistan and North Korea: no toilets = bad
Saudi Arabia, Qatar and China: toilets = good

I feel sorry for the itinerant Bangladeshis and Phillippinos in the Gulf States because the russians are about to take all their menial jobs.


"Because they have toilets" seems like a really dumb take. It's much more about whether they actually work with and cooperate with the West on mutual aims or not. Russia and North Korea not so much lately.


Isn't that what I said upthread? Democracy, human rights, that's unimportant. What's important? Compliance.
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Post 06/07/2023 21:53     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?


Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.


I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/


Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.


The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!


I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."


Do you know what's the difference between Gulf State Arabs and russians? Indoor plumbing

As long as the autocratic country has toilets it's ok.

russia, Afghanistan and North Korea: no toilets = bad
Saudi Arabia, Qatar and China: toilets = good

I feel sorry for the itinerant Bangladeshis and Phillippinos in the Gulf States because the russians are about to take all their menial jobs.


"Because they have toilets" seems like a really dumb take. It's much more about whether they actually work with and cooperate with the West on mutual aims or not. Russia and North Korea not so much lately.
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Post 06/07/2023 20:19     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?


Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.


I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/


Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.


The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!


I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."


Do you know what's the difference between Gulf State Arabs and russians? Indoor plumbing

As long as the autocratic country has toilets it's ok.

russia, Afghanistan and North Korea: no toilets = bad
Saudi Arabia, Qatar and China: toilets = good

I feel sorry for the itinerant Bangladeshis and Phillippinos in the Gulf States because the russians are about to take all their menial jobs.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2023 20:13     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


^ bot spewing moral lowering propaganda designed to grind down and influence others to simply “give in” to the invasion. Fk off.


That's the truth, not propaganda. Without the Western weapons, money and materiel, the war would have been over quickly. I don't know why you argue with the obvious.


Dp- Right… that’s right. I remember Russia taking Kiev in 3 days 😂


+1 I remember listening to Radio Sputnik on 2/24/2022. They said the defeat of Ukraine was a fait accompli. There was no use discussing whether the invasion was right or wrong. It has simply happened, and now the only question was how do we adjust to a world without Ukraine.


If the West was confident that Ukraine would prevail by itself, they wouldn't be sending weapons.


We are sending weapons just because it is fun. Have you watched the videos of Russian stuff getting blown up? They are hilarious!

It is our past time since most major sports are just about done here and in Europe.


You're a sicko. They're definitely not hilarious. I don't care who it is... getting blown apart, burned alive, dismembered, etc. is never hilarious.


No, it's pretty funny watching a bully get their comeuppance.

What's not funny is watching a video of someone getting their head smashed in by a hammer. What's not funny is watching an entire population cheering it on and making hammers the must have decorative item of the Christmas season in Moscow. What's not funny is watching reacue workers getting shelled and civilians being prevented from evacuating after a man made disaster.

But russian troops getting blown up after raping goats and each other. That's funny.
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Post 06/07/2023 19:50     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


The US is not running this war or Ukraine.


The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.


^ bot spewing moral lowering propaganda designed to grind down and influence others to simply “give in” to the invasion. Fk off.


That's the truth, not propaganda. Without the Western weapons, money and materiel, the war would have been over quickly. I don't know why you argue with the obvious.


Dp- Right… that’s right. I remember Russia taking Kiev in 3 days 😂


+1 I remember listening to Radio Sputnik on 2/24/2022. They said the defeat of Ukraine was a fait accompli. There was no use discussing whether the invasion was right or wrong. It has simply happened, and now the only question was how do we adjust to a world without Ukraine.


If the West was confident that Ukraine would prevail by itself, they wouldn't be sending weapons.


We are sending weapons just because it is fun. Have you watched the videos of Russian stuff getting blown up? They are hilarious!

It is our past time since most major sports are just about done here and in Europe.


You're a sicko. They're definitely not hilarious. I don't care who it is... getting blown apart, burned alive, dismembered, etc. is never hilarious.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2023 17:49     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.


History shows the retreating side blows the dam.


That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.


Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?


The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.




In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.


Worth it to permanently knock off russia as a great power

This is a once in millennium chance


do you say the same about China & Taiwan


Not to worry. North Manchuria will be a nice consolation prize for China along with that sweet russian serf labor.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2023 17:42     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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I do think it's immediately obvious that the Ukrainian civilian casualties have been given much more limelight and tearjerker value vs, say, Iraqi or Afghan or Libyan ones. Was it CNN that carelessly said they are not used to seeing blond and blue-eyed people in these terrible circumstances? What's unspoken in this question? Terrible circumstances are the lot of brown people.


If you want to play this stupid game...

The Ukraine war is promoting diversity because the villains are the blond and blue-eyed Christian Russians. The ones committing atrocities are not brown people like Saddam Hussein or Muammar Gaddafi, or Islamic terrorists. Why do you support white supremacists like Vladimir Putin?

Sigh. Any ethnicity or religion is capable of despotism -- or of great suffering.