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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

Sigh. You don't get it.

Locals like myself are seeing a dip in traffic/ lines/ crowds this weekend. Nothing is crowded and it's "summer". Many reasons for that including brazils economy but also weekend trips cut short by the recent tragedies.

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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, we have alligators everywhere in Florida. Every fresh body of water is potentially home to our state reptile...and it is not reasonable to think they should all be removed from whatever body of water - manmade or otherwise - to make room for humans. We moved into their habitat and they have learned to coexist. I do not hold Disney responsible for a 1 in 2.4 million accident, which is what this was. People are attacked by bears and cougars out west when they're out walking their dogs. I don't see much of a difference.

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of people lose their kids under bizarre or tragic circumstances. Somehow they seem to eventually be able to pick up their lives even without multi-million dollar settlements.

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The settlement will be well less than 10 million, people are throwing out absolutely crazy numbers Willy nilly.

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Anonymous wrote:How is losing a child to a freak accident like a gator attack different from any other way you might lose s child?

NP here. I'd feel like my child got eaten by a monster. The thing you always tell them isn't real. While I was right there with them. It's very horrifying.

Let's not cast aspersions on an apex predator that was simply living in its natural habitat and mistook a small child for a meal. It is not a monster.

Meh, this would be my perception as a parent in this scenario too. It's not a time in which they'r going to feel objective about whether the killer of their child was an "apex predator". I wish them the very best in moving on. I'm not sure that I would ever be able to overcome this sort of trauma. It's unimaginable.

+1. It's an absolutely horrific way to see your little child die. Hence the interest on this mom site. It's unimaginable for any of us.

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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

Yes, but to the lawyers here, would employees regularly referring to the gators as pets when guests expressed alarm or concern make a difference?

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Anonymous wrote:How is losing a child to a freak accident like a gator attack different from any other way you might lose s child?

To me the difference is dad being right there and losing the fight for him with the gator.

It is the being right there and not being able to save your child's life, plus the gruesomeness of how the kid died.

Plus the 17 hrs in which they were thinking that their boy was ripped apart limb from limb by the alligator and the fear and pain he must have felt and how he must have thought -- why didn't my mom and dad save me before losing consciousness?? The sheriff even said that the parents felt "relief" (not the right word - there is no relief) that the boy was found completely intact. I'm sure he got his head conked on things and lost consciousness and drowned -- terrible enough -- but at least they can see the body intact (if they want to) before burying him.

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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

They're as much pets of Disney as the squirrels are in my yard. I don't feed them, give them veterinary care, name them, care for or about them. If I could figure out how to get rid of them so they stop eating the fruits off our fruit trees, I would. Disney isn't taking care of these gators as pets, either, and if they could figure out how to get rid of them, they would.

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Anonymous wrote:How is losing a child to a freak accident like a gator attack different from any other way you might lose s child?

NP here. I'd feel like my child got eaten by a monster. The thing you always tell them isn't real. While I was right there with them. It's very horrifying.

Let's not cast aspersions on an apex predator that was simply living in its natural habitat and mistook a small child for a meal. It is not a monster.

Meh, this would be my perception as a parent in this scenario too. It's not a time in which they'r going to feel objective about whether the killer of their child was an "apex predator". I wish them the very best in moving on. I'm not sure that I would ever be able to overcome this sort of trauma. It's unimaginable.

NP here.. I don't know how I would move on just knowing my son was snatched away crying for me and then died violently of traumatic injuries such as punctured organs and drowning. I also wish them the best ... So incredibly heartbreaking.

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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

Multiple Disney guests have come out publicly that multiple Disney cast members have referred to these alligators as Disney or resort "pets."

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Anonymous wrote:And I'll add, $6 mil is probably nothing to that family either, in comparison to the permanent lose of their son.

I think Disney should make a big payout but as a parent I would not be able to live on millions given to me due to the gruesome death of my child.

I would probably take the money and put it to good and making the world a better place by doing something like creating a charity or scholarship in memory of my child.

But use that money to buy boats, decorate my house, go on vacations and eat out? No friggin way. I could not live a life of luxury from blood money for tue death of my baby.

+100. I wouldn't be able to touch that money. I'd feel guilty and grief stricken every time. But donating it to a charity that helps other kids, yes. But assuming the family does get a settlement, I wouldn't dare judge them for whatever they choose to do with the money. (not saying that you were, PP... just doing a little pre-defense for the people who will yell at me for being judgey).

I know you are not judging me. I think our minds are in the same place. I was responding with my take on the first person I quoted.

But those who are saying Disney will make such a settlement the parents won't need to work again? This isn't like winning the powerball.

I think a number of lawyers here have said this would cap out in the low millions, at least if it went to court. Disney may see fit to offer more if it seems necessary to avoid a court case, but even then, probably not a "never work again" scenario. And again, not that these parents are remotely thinking about that right now, or possibly ever.

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Anonymous wrote:How is losing a child to a freak accident like a gator attack different from any other way you might lose s child?

NP here. I'd feel like my child got eaten by a monster. The thing you always tell them isn't real. While I was right there with them. It's very horrifying.

Let's not cast aspersions on an apex predator that was simply living in its natural habitat and mistook a small child for a meal. It is not a monster.

Meh, this would be my perception as a parent in this scenario too. It's not a time in which they'r going to feel objective about whether the killer of their child was an "apex predator". I wish them the very best in moving on. I'm not sure that I would ever be able to overcome this sort of trauma. It's unimaginable.

I think an alligator (or other animal) that kills a 2 year old child is a monster. PP is being snarky about a tragic event.

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In other suits, Florida laws have been interpreted that property owners are not responsible for wild animal attacks unless they kept them as pets.

Also, from an earlier article posted, when it comes to alligator attacks, courts in Florida have held that a swimmer's disregard of "No Swimming" and other warning signs were the sole cause of the serious injuries.

So, actually , it looks like little legal liability for Disney.

That's definitely interesting, but who were the property owners in those suits? As mentioned a number of times in this thread, Disney has a much higher duty to its guests than, say, a private landowner. Additionally it's very likely a factor that Disney created the lagoons (very likely an "attractive nuisance" in this case under the law) and encouraged people to engage in activities near the water. There is probably plenty of applicable case law, but the facts would need to mirror these pretty closely for it to be applicable.

Anonymous wrote:How is losing a child to a freak accident like a gator attack different from any other way you might lose s child?

To me the difference is dad being right there and losing the fight for him with the gator.

It is the being right there and not being able to save your child's life, plus the gruesomeness of how the kid died.

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Anonymous wrote:And I'll add, $6 mil is probably nothing to that family either, in comparison to the permanent lose of their son.

I think Disney should make a big payout but as a parent I would not be able to live on millions given to me due to the gruesome death of my child.

I would probably take the money and put it to good and making the world a better place by doing something like creating a charity or scholarship in memory of my child.

But use that money to buy boats, decorate my house, go on vacations and eat out? No friggin way. I could not live a life of luxury from blood money for tue death of my baby.

+100. I wouldn't be able to touch that money. I'd feel guilty and grief stricken every time. But donating it to a charity that helps other kids, yes. But assuming the family does get a settlement, I wouldn't dare judge them for whatever they choose to do with the money. (not saying that you were, PP... just doing a little pre-defense for the people who will yell at me for being judgey).

I know you are not judging me. I think our minds are in the same place. I was responding with my take on the first person I quoted.

But those who are saying Disney will make such a settlement the parents won't need to work again? This isn't like winning the powerball.