Anonymous wrote:Pp again. Ok i see what you mean. As a VERY hardworking in-home childcare provider and single mother/sole supporter of five children i am really offended by all of this. Very toxic and just plain mean.

Agree that it's all very toxic. But it's 11am on a Tuesday - why are you on DCUM?!

Anonymous wrote:Stay at home moms who push their daughters academically are hypocrites.

How so? You have no idea what they've done academically/professionally before AND after being a SAHM.

Pp again. Ok i see what you mean. As a VERY hardworking in-home childcare provider and single mother/sole supporter of five children i am really offended by all of this. Very toxic and just plain mean.

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PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.

+10,000. Then they brag about how they pay a minimum wage, recent immigrant to care for their children --because it is so easy. Who was the person before they came to the US? Just having the local villager raise your kids.

What childcare providers are you familiar with, exactly? I'm surprised you even call them "people" since you clearly feel so superior.

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PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.

+10,000. Then they brag about how they pay a minimum wage, recent immigrant to care for their children --because it is so easy. Who was the person before they came to the US? Just having the local villager raise your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours

Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?

What do you mean?

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours

Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?

Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)

Just from this page:
the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours

Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?

Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)

Stay at home moms who push their daughters academically are hypocrites.

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours

Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?

I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours

I think the jury in the Zimmerman case reached the right verdict; innocent little Trayvon was trying to bash Zimmerman's skull open against a concrete sidewalk (Trayvon wasn't as innocent as first portrayed). He was a violent punk who turned into the aggressor.

But Zimmerman - while not a murderer - should never have followed Trayvon around; the guy's behavior before and since that night suggest he has serious delusions about being a cop when he is not; following Trayvon was not his job. His weird personality and lack of judgement will eventually land him behind bars.

He also was not driven by racism; he's a person of color himself! Justice was right to drop the civil rights investigation ; Zimmerman used to volunteer as a tutor / mentor to disadvantaged black kids. Zimmerman was anti-crime, not anti-black.

Finally, this administration handled the whole affair miserably.

Having pets is such a waste of resources. I understand animal husbandry and raising farm animals (basically animals with jobs), but I have no idea why having pets is a good thing beyond the whole anthropomorphism we do. And I say this as a person with a 10 year old dog that I never wanted but ended up with when a selfish ex decided he no longer wanted a pet and left with a note to drop her off at the pound. The jerk had this animal bred for him. She literally wouldn't exist if he didn't order her from the breeder. Since it wasn't her choice to live, I figured I'd do my best to give her a "good" life whatever that may be. But I don't get it.

I don't hate my dog, but she gives me as much pleasure as my plants (with a lot more work). She's much more annoying than the plants. I just don't get pets. After she dies, I will never, ever do it again.

Adults who swoon over infants are dopey.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.

I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours

I always wondered about that.. The SAHM haters on DCUM.. Do they also hate the people who are taking care of their kids? They are "above" staying home with their children, so they find childcare for them, but do they respect the people that are doing this job? And if they do respect them, why do they deserve your respect above mothers who stay home instead of paying somebody else to take care of them while they go to work?

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PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.

Are you kidding? The majority of women who are anti-SAHM think it is important that a woman be an equal
partner and provide financially for her family. You know, like the childcare providers who do it as a career. I really find it unbelievable you don't understand that, but I guess your education is wasted that's not surprising.

Glad you know what's best for everyone's families.
Signed,
Working parent

Um, Where did I say that? I believe I was expressing respect for my childcare providers, who work to support their families as i work to support mine.