I'll add yes this has been going on all of this season.

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Assuming the coach didn’t all the sudden just start yelling at his daughter and playing her the whole game now. Had to be the same last season as well. How much time was DD playing last season? Was it going well then or just now due to not playing?

He didn't coach last year. I don't know what his daughters playing time looked like last year because we were not on that team.

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Assuming the coach didn’t all the sudden just start yelling at his daughter and playing her the whole game now. Had to be the same last season as well. How much time was DD playing last season? Was it going well then or just now due to not playing?

Anonymous wrote:OK folks now you know.

If your player get an offer from a valor team--especially a low level team--get it in writing that it will be a non-parent coach before you accept.

Really, you shouldn't have to do that because literally people leave rec for travel to get away from parent coaches and hey! you are paying $3000 but Valor tries to screw everyone over all the time.

The thing is even if it is a paid coach with a decent resume it can still go bad. Last year our girls got a great coach on paper. In real life he was terrible. He missed games, practices, would cancel practice for no reason and in general did NOTHING with the girls at practice if he was to show up. We ended up having 7ish players leave the team It was bad.

This year we have a paid coach who has great intentions and he is doing his best.

Valor in general does NOT care about making your kid better, They only care about money. This works for us because our kid likes soccer but doesnt LOVE it. Location is great for games and practice. It is just something for them to do. IF your kid is serious about soccer it is not a secret to stay away from VALOR. We will probably keep losing kids over the years since the club cannot keep the kids that want to get better engaged.

We also had a kid on another team and at tryouts we were told who the coach would be. That august the coach decided to do something else and left us coachless. Our other kid LOVES soccer so we moved them but I would assume everyone is now aware that valor is just an expensive rec league. This should not be a surprise.

$3000 that is approaching ECNL Fees only few hundred off from some top clubs. Crazy

If Valor wants to have parent coached travel team, they could offer bridge teams like other leagues do (the cost would be more like $1000). But they are so damn greedy and short-sighted. They would rather make $3000 once off every family on this team and have them all quit next season.

What a scam. Their club is literally a scam. I would be furious if I paid $3000 for travel soccer and Al Bundy showed up to coach my kid.

Anonymous wrote:So you are paying $3000 for just some Joe Schmoe dad off the street to coach your low team while the high teams pay the same price and get experienced, professional coaches?

Yes

So you are paying $3000 for just some Joe Schmoe dad off the street to coach your low team while the high teams pay the same price and get experienced, professional coaches?

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Did this parent have any professional coaching experience?
I'm baffled by this whole situation. I assume Valor is paying this parent coach the same rate they pay their real coaches.

So compared to rec----you are basically paying $2800 more than rec soccer for one extra practice a week. Run by a know-nothing parent coach.

No professional coaching experience that I am aware of. Valor does occasionally have people walking around monitoring the practices. I think there is some thought and preparation and effort that is going into the practices. So it's not a total loss. It's the games where the favortism and tone and inability to coach really is amplified.

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Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Yup. Plus texting mid game with parents that he's close with/are the parents of his favorite players. Doesn't even hide the favoritism. Valor is losing talent season after season because of piss poor coaching

So is this like a rec team that wanted to play travel--the parents all knew each other before hand?--and a few extra warm bodies including your kid got added to the team. But they didn't tell you all that and pretending like it was a normal team and sent you a bill for $3000?

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Did this parent have any professional coaching experience?
I'm baffled by this whole situation. I assume Valor is paying this parent coach the same rate they pay their real coaches.

So compared to rec----you are basically paying $2800 more than rec soccer for one extra practice a week. Run by a know-nothing parent coach.

OK folks now you know.

If your player get an offer from a valor team--especially a low level team--get it in writing that it will be a non-parent coach before you accept.

Really, you shouldn't have to do that because literally people leave rec for travel to get away from parent coaches and hey! you are paying $3000 but Valor tries to screw everyone over all the time.

Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Wait, what?
Did they charge you $3000 for a team coached by a parent?

Yes ... it's not going well.

OMG, Valor is ridiculous. You shouldn't pay the same price for a crappy parent coach as you do for a professional coach.
Did they tell you it would be a parent coach when they offered your player a spot on the team?

No

Let me guess... they told you they were searching and interviewing for a professional soccer coach and looking for someone who would be a great fit.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Wait, what?
Did they charge you $3000 for a team coached by a parent?

Yes ... it's not going well.

OMG, Valor is ridiculous. You shouldn't pay the same price for a crappy parent coach as you do for a professional coach.
Did they tell you it would be a parent coach when they offered your player a spot on the team?

No