Anonymous
10/26/2019 13:30
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
DC needs an open primary system. Spending $23 million to give a private school a private field is no bueno.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 13:12
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
This seems like it's right. But also, it's going to be completely forgotten in a year.
DP: It’s not going to be forgotten this time around. Every parent at a Hardy feeder who’s child might play at field sport at Hardy or SWW during the next 9 years is aware of it and will acutely remember this as they fight afternoon traffic to get to a field across town in coming years.
Or as they walk 4 blocks to Ellington field after it is redone, as long as neighbors there don't fight to keep it an enormous dog park.
That's years off. Nobody who is currently a student at Hardy or SWW will benefit from a redone Ellington. If it ever happens.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 12:25
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
This seems like it's right. But also, it's going to be completely forgotten in a year.
DP: It’s not going to be forgotten this time around. Every parent at a Hardy feeder who’s child might play at field sport at Hardy or SWW during the next 9 years is aware of it and will acutely remember this as they fight afternoon traffic to get to a field across town in coming years.
Or as they walk 4 blocks to Ellington field after it is redone, as long as neighbors there don't fight to keep it an enormous dog park.
Well, that’s what Maret and Bowser are counting on — wearing people down...
- by saying “It’s a done deal.”
- with time
- with vague promises about Ellington, which wouldn’t be for years and doesn’t change that the Maret deal is BS.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:51
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
This seems like it's right. But also, it's going to be completely forgotten in a year.
DP: It’s not going to be forgotten this time around. Every parent at a Hardy feeder who’s child might play at field sport at Hardy or SWW during the next 9 years is aware of it and will acutely remember this as they fight afternoon traffic to get to a field across town in coming years.
Or as they walk 4 blocks to Ellington field after it is redone, as long as neighbors there don't fight to keep it an enormous dog park.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:48
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
I really hope that all the supporters can continue to work together to bring about a change. The petition led to hearings which may or may not result in a change. It was a great effort if it ends up being unsuccessful. The next step really should be a protest of some sort. I think it would be great to generate a story from a national news outlet. The deal stinks for so many reasons and the backroom dealings deserved to be exposed.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:46
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
This seems like it's right. But also, it's going to be completely forgotten in a year.
DP: It’s not going to be forgotten this time around. Every parent at a Hardy feeder who’s child might play at field sport at Hardy or SWW during the next 9 years is aware of it and will acutely remember this as they fight afternoon traffic to get to a field across town in coming years.
Uh huh. We'll check back in a year and see if there's still a furor about it.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:42
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
This seems like it's right. But also, it's going to be completely forgotten in a year.
DP: It’s not going to be forgotten this time around. Every parent at a Hardy feeder who’s child might play at field sport at Hardy or SWW during the next 9 years is aware of it and will acutely remember this as they fight afternoon traffic to get to a field across town in coming years.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:36
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
St. Patrick's.
Ironically, they got approval to build a high school but never built it, they ran into financing problems. The field sits essentially unused. Due to zoning it can only be used by students at the school.
Where?
Foxhall Road.
IIRC the restriction was imposed by the neighbors. That whole area is inhabited by some of the fiercist breeds of NIMBYs to be found anywhere. The trolley trail is an unused muddy mess and the NIMBYs are now out in force to stop the city putting it to any productive use. More on that is here: https://PalisadesFamily.Network
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:24
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that petition is already based on fake news and biased language so that makes the petition null. Nice try, though.
All the more reason to convene that conversation. In the meantime, help us solve the mystery that is perplexing many of us here by substantiating the claim that the city was obligated to extend the agreement if Maret held up its side of the bargain (because the text of the 2009 agreement says nothing of the sort).
The enduring mystery is if the renewal was routine and matter-of-right, how did they come up with the $950,000 figure?
The original deal called for Maret to spend $2.4 million up front, and then maintain the field for the remaining ten years of the deal. There are two plausible ways that renewing that deal could be construed: either repeat it, Maret pays another $2.4 million; or extend it, Maret continues to pay for the maintenance. What the new contract calls for is neither of those things, and is not anything that was specified in the original contract. Clearly, it was negotiated between Maret and the city.
So how did DPR settle upon $950,000? Clearly, what Maret is getting is worth far more than that, as evidenced by the fact that Maret was willing to pay almost three times as much ten years earlier. No attempt was made to have a competitive bidding process so we'll never know how far below market the deal was. Did DPR just negotiate badly? Were they trying to keep it under a million to avoid Council review? Were they in the tank for Maret?
I can't think of an answer that reflects well on DPR or the Bowser administration. And certainly the answers given by Delano Hunter at the hearing don't inspire confidence that the interest of the taxpayer is being looked out for.
Two clarification.
1. We don't know how much Market actually spent. The deal was for no more than $2.5m worth of repairs. It was not cash.
2. We also don't know how much, in either dollars or percentages, Market covered maintenance.
I find it very odd that we don't know those numbers. If they were as much as being argued you'd think the numbers would be publicized.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:19
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
This seems like it's right. But also, it's going to be completely forgotten in a year.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 11:12
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
This is a backroom sham that they will get away with and now Maret people are mad that the public is can see their shady dealings and are calling it for what it is.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 10:58
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that petition is already based on fake news and biased language so that makes the petition null. Nice try, though.
All the more reason to convene that conversation. In the meantime, help us solve the mystery that is perplexing many of us here by substantiating the claim that the city was obligated to extend the agreement if Maret held up its side of the bargain (because the text of the 2009 agreement says nothing of the sort).
The enduring mystery is if the renewal was routine and matter-of-right, how did they come up with the $950,000 figure?
The original deal called for Maret to spend $2.4 million up front, and then maintain the field for the remaining ten years of the deal. There are two plausible ways that renewing that deal could be construed: either repeat it, Maret pays another $2.4 million; or extend it, Maret continues to pay for the maintenance. What the new contract calls for is neither of those things, and is not anything that was specified in the original contract. Clearly, it was negotiated between Maret and the city.
So how did DPR settle upon $950,000? Clearly, what Maret is getting is worth far more than that, as evidenced by the fact that Maret was willing to pay almost three times as much ten years earlier. No attempt was made to have a competitive bidding process so we'll never know how far below market the deal was. Did DPR just negotiate badly? Were they trying to keep it under a million to avoid Council review? Were they in the tank for Maret?
I can't think of an answer that reflects well on DPR or the Bowser administration. And certainly the answers given by Delano Hunter at the hearing don't inspire confidence that the interest of the taxpayer is being looked out for.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 10:03
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
I really want the FBI to dig deeper about Evans dealings. He is so corrupt. And apparently Bowser is also.
I hope the council will review DPR policy. I hope that the Jelleff deal gets overturned and I hope that Evans gets voted out of office. It is frustrating to see this kind of corruption occur where I live. Very disheartening. Makes me feel as though democracy is a big sham.
I hope the council will review DPR policy. I hope that the Jelleff deal gets overturned and I hope that Evans gets voted out of office. It is frustrating to see this kind of corruption occur where I live. Very disheartening. Makes me feel as though democracy is a big sham.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 09:26
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowser, Evans and the developers vs. the city: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-council-member-jack-evans-increasingly-isolated-as-fbi-probe-advances/2019/07/05/a3a98f50-9e6c-11e9-9ed4-c9089972ad5a_story.html
So sleazy. And now the stink of it is on Maret, too.
A more comprehensive account of Evans’ career and his dealings is here: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-washington-post-is-complicit-in-this-mans-corruption/. Does this sound familiar?:
"In 2007, Evans sought to give away a library and firehouse in his ward to developer buddy Anthony Lanier. In exchange for developing these highly valuable Downtown parcels, Lanier’s EastBanc agreed to construct a new library and firehouse, and to build housing on top of them (market rate above the quiet library, affordable units and a squash club above the noisy fire department). But public anger forced the Council to undo the sole-source deal, and it would take a full decade before Evans saw the project to completion. “If you’re persistent, you’ll either out-wait or out-live everybody and get the project done,” Evans said at the 2014 groundbreaking. Between 2016 and 2018, Lanier’s companies, EastBanc and Squash on Fire, paid Evans’ personal consulting firm $100,000. It’s unknown what services Evans provided in exchange for these payments."
So there's a pattern to Evans setting up these sole-source "PPPs" and, helpfully, a precedent of the DCC overturning them. It's a shame memories are so short in this town.
Anonymous
10/26/2019 03:36
Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowser, Evans and the developers vs. the city: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-council-member-jack-evans-increasingly-isolated-as-fbi-probe-advances/2019/07/05/a3a98f50-9e6c-11e9-9ed4-c9089972ad5a_story.html
So sleazy. And now the stink of it is on Maret, too.
No, you just want it to be so you can continue your slander.
Slander is spoken. Try again.