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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

NP.

Very rationally stated. Glad someone is using their brain and being reasonable here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GUYS!

There is yet ANOTHER video none of you have seen, and you can watch the video being created, here on this BBC journalism / exposé; fast-forward to the 1:10 mark:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ceqzj9932wjo

Notice BBC’s label “Agent Filming” ?

That agent, we now know, is Ross.

He is making his own video. NO ONE (outside .gov), has seen the incident from the agent’s own perspective.

THAT piece of video evidence will likely prove pivotal here.

With “agent filming” the BBC is just pointing out that the shooter is filming with his phone. There’s no indication that the BBC has that video. Republican House members voted that it can’t be released.

1) I never claimed BBC has it; you made that part up in your head (or you have poor reading comprehension), and

2) it’s standard procedure at any and all officer-involved-shooting scenes to first secure the scene and then carefully collect any/all evidence. It’s a certainty the DHS secured and possesses her vehicle, the weapon used, the shell casings (and locations when found), all video from every angle, witness statements, etc.

His weapon and his phone were certainly confiscated at the scene.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for not reading 102 pages but why was ICE interacting with her in the first place?

She was part of the "ICE Watch" movement and was using her vehicle to block the ICE vehicles.
The ICE officers told her to exit her vehicle. She did not comply and we saw what happened.

She's allowed to protest. ICE agents aren't allowed to murder her like Jonathan Ross did.

She is not allowed to block traffic (selectively), interfere with lawful enforcement operations, and disobey police orders.

Not to mention: “lawful protest” does not include attempted murder of a federal agent.

We all know that she did not attempt to murder a federal agent. Even you know that. Again, Jonathan Ross had zero cause to fire three murder shots into her vehicle.

It's the three shots that gets me. The first shot is the only one that could maaaybe be self defense, but the other 2 were out of anger.

The first shot was also wrong. His life was so in danger that he had time to unholster his weapon, lean in toward the vehicle, take aim, and fire?

I finally agree with you; his life WAS so in danger, he had no other choice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GUYS!

There is yet ANOTHER video none of you have seen, and you can watch the video being created, here on this BBC journalism / exposé; fast-forward to the 1:10 mark:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ceqzj9932wjo

Notice BBC’s label “Agent Filming” ?

That agent, we now know, is Ross.

He is making his own video. NO ONE (outside .gov), has seen the incident from the agent’s own perspective.

THAT piece of video evidence will likely prove pivotal here.

With “agent filming” the BBC is just pointing out that the shooter is filming with his phone. There’s no indication that the BBC has that video. Republican House members voted that it can’t be released.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.