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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

They confirmed by sending a robot. They recovered debris that matched the submersible. It took several days to get a device there that could reach such depths.

I'm talking about the navy who knew about the implosion Sunday.

Yes the Navy knew about the implosion, told the CG and Canada but they still needed some confirmation. Don’t think they could just be like well there was a boom 2 hrs after your launch so that’s prob your guys, shrug. What if it wasn’t - what if the ballast had worked and they were floating on the surface someplace waiting to be un-nailed from the capsule? So the CG, Navy, Canada started doing those searches while waiting for the appropriate depth ROV to arrive which it did today and confirmed in a few hrs that there was a debris field.

I wonder how they handled the families. I wonder if they were told on Sunday that 99% chance this is not a rescue bc that boom corresponds with your relatives’ location and timing. Or if they were made to think it could be a rescue until this morning when the ROC transmitted pics of pieces on the ocean floor and there was 100% confirmation no one could survive that.

After the craft was reported missing, the U.S. Navy went back and analyzed its acoustic data and found an anomaly that was “consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general vicinity of where the Titan submersible was operating when communications were lost,” a senior Navy official told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive acoustic detection system.

The Navy passed on that information to the Coast Guard, which continued its search because the Navy did not consider the data to be definitive.

https://apnews.com/article/missing-titanic-submersible-updates-6255308420cb542fab287224c3e9b1c1

The Navy told the Coast Guard about the sound on Sunday. But they had to let the search go on. There’s no way people would be satisfied with reports of a boom.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

They confirmed by sending a robot. They recovered debris that matched the submersible. It took several days to get a device there that could reach such depths.

I'm talking about the navy who knew about the implosion Sunday.

They acted like they were rescuing until the O2 ran out. Then they found debris from the Titan and it was obvious what occurred.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

They confirmed by sending a robot. They recovered debris that matched the submersible. It took several days to get a device there that could reach such depths.

I'm talking about the navy who knew about the implosion Sunday.

They knew there was activity indicative of an implosion, but it was not confirmation of an implosion. See, also, reports of tapping in the region. Sometimes activity means something. Sometimes it doesn’t. They needed to go down to confirm.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

They confirmed by sending a robot. They recovered debris that matched the submersible. It took several days to get a device there that could reach such depths.

I'm talking about the navy who knew about the implosion Sunday.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

They confirmed by sending a robot. They recovered debris that matched the submersible. It took several days to get a device there that could reach such depths.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

No probably not, it was highly suspected but I suppose they had to act like they were trying to rescue people.

Anonymous wrote:It's so weird that anyone cares when there are people all over the world dying every day.

It was the initial mystery of what happened, when people thought there was a chance they could be rescued, and then we learned how insane this whole venture was. It’s hard not to discuss it.

Anonymous wrote:I did not read all 126 pages.

Do they know what day the implosion occurred? Do they think the people suffered?

So sad.

I heard an expert on TV say that they would have died instantaneously so wouldn’t have felt a thing. She also said that there wouldn’t be anything left of their bodies to recover.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

But I do wonder if they could confirm without sending people in.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking about this but what does implosion mean? I’m trying to visualize this and the pressure? What does it do to the sub and human body? Is it like a plane explosion mid air?

It is the opposite of explosion. In an explosion, an source on the inside of a structure (usually an ignition) drives everything catastrophically out. In an implosion, a pressure source on the outside of a structure (here, water pressure) drives everything catastrophically in.

The end result of both, to the human body, is pulverization.

This is why having a vessel that could withstand water pressure of this intensity was such a high priority, and why having failed to assure that was such a glaring mistake. Almost suicidally in error.

Homicidally in error.

If the CEO had lived I would definitely have expected charges in this vein, and it would not shock me if there is civil litigation against other Oceangate execs along those lines.

What jurisdiction can they be made in? any lawyers here know?

No jurisdiction

DP. I would think that there’d be jurisdiction somewhere based on where the advertisements could reach, where the contract was signed, etc. I wonder if there are going to be fraudulent misrepresentations coming out. Sounds like maybe there was some exaggerating in those online videos re: the involvement of Boeing, NASA, etc.

I’m also curious what all is in the waiver although that isn’t going to be ironclad.

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Yeah they knew… the rescue seemed to be smoke and mirrors. Practice I guess.

I just saw a CNN headline that said the Navy had indications it imploded on Sunday. Seems like they perished just shy of 2 hours into the journey.

Anonymous wrote:I did not read all 126 pages.

Do they know what day the implosion occurred? Do they think the people suffered?

So sad.

I doubt they did. It's possible they heard some creaking sounds as the vessel gave up.